How bout it Lavar

PorterHouse · 01-08-2006, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by offiss

Marcus without a doubt, WITHOUT A DOUBT, outplayed Lavar today, he is by far our best LB, Lavar made 1 big play, and that was the INT, and the pepsi machine could have made that one, a deflected pass right into his sturnum real tough, he also looked like he was running in slow motion for the end zone.

Where's the big time pass rush? Where's the big play ability? I am glad he made that INT but lets be realistic, just about anyone on this site could have made that play, he was just in the right place at the right time, not a common occurance for Lavar.

Lavar doesn't sack the QB, he doesn't even pressure him, he's supposed to be a difference maker, HE'S NOT!

Marcus turned in the play of the game on the 4th and 1 in the red zone late in the game, he forced Simms to throw an incomplete pass, that was the play that turned the momentum for us. [the dropped pass in the end zone was the biggest turning point but we didn't create that, tampa shot themselves in the foot]

this is the reason i started this thread, are you kidding me , with Lavar we have one of the best linebacking cores in the league. second to denver. without Lavar we just have a Greg Williams system doin what it always does... work. and thats not a problem at all. but this team needs Lavar. he's definatly a threat and offenses have to account for him. if you noticed after the first half have we rarely blitzed at all and when we did blitz they were run blitzes and when we run blitz Lavar is covering the te. if we wanna talk about an easy interception. the interception that ended the game was right in there also. im mean come on with Lavar in there we add to our threats on defense, and it gives Sean Taylor more of a chance to run around and drop the hammer on someone. You know we all love to see that. I say keep Lavar and we have the #1 defense next year.

Paintrain · 01-08-2006, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by offiss

Marcus without a doubt, WITHOUT A DOUBT, outplayed Lavar today, he is by far our best LB, Lavar made 1 big play, and that was the INT, and the pepsi machine could have made that one, a deflected pass right into his sturnum real tough, he also looked like he was running in slow motion for the end zone.

Without taking sides, gotta give props for the funniest line of the thread.. Well done Offiss..

MACHINE

MACHINE

MACHINE

PorterHouse · 01-08-2006, 04:45 PM

its almost idioc Paintrain isnt it?

mheisig · 01-08-2006, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

And Lavar fumbled his return and got lucky that it was called down by contact. Those weren't mental mistakes, rather good play by the tacklers.

Dropping the ball after you are down is neither a fumble nor a "mental mistake."

ladyfan06 · 01-08-2006, 07:02 PM

I am really beginning to grow tired of how much we come on the website and try to compare one of our beloved -vs- one of our beloved (i.e. Brunell vs Ramsey saga)..both LA and MW were GREAT...the D was just GREAT. Any contribution that LA or MW gives us on any play I will take it and I refuse to spend time picking apart whom is better than the other! They are BOTH Redskins players, we are ALL Redskins fans (supposedly)....like Lavar said Loyalty is a two-way street....respect him and root for him just because he is a SKINS player trying to accomplish the ultimate...the SB.

Don't get me wrong...I am not a LAVAR-worshipper as someone earlier stated in the thread...nor am I a MARCUS-hater....good football is good football and if Lavar can make 1 good play or Marcus makes 1 good play it does not matter to me....with that being said....the ultimate ingredient in the recipe for success in the game of football is TEAMWORK>>> Please save all your dissections and comparisons for the offseason, we don't need that right now!

Concentrate, focus and prepare for Seattle and win the game!

GOOOOOOO SKINS!!!!!

PorterHouse · 01-08-2006, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by offiss

C. Clemons was on his way to becoming Lavar's full time replacement before he was hurt. If you want to talk coverage skills you may want to talk to G. Williams and ask why he was replacing lavar on passing downs all season long?

when he is coming out on third down it so the nickel back or 2 db's can come in. you know you cant deny his coverage skills. we could ague this forever im just glad your not making any of these decisions.

jtm74 · 01-08-2006, 07:13 PM

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]MW has been making those kinds of plays all year, LaVar finallly makes one and everyone goes nuts.[/QU

lavars been making plays for this team six years so shut ya piehole

OTE]

mooby · 01-08-2006, 07:39 PM

I am a Lavar fan, but I am a Marcus fan as well. For the Lavar haters, you guys all talk about how much he sucks, and yada yada, but the fact is, when he is on the field, he makes an impact. No, you don't see a huge play as much as you do from marcus, but when he's on the field, other teams know where he is, and that frees things up for our other playmakers. No doubt Marcus has been the better player all year long, but as soon as Lavar does one good thing all I hear from the Lavar haters is that he was lucky, yada yada, he got lucky they ruled it down by contact, and all i hear from the Lavar worshipers is that he is totally worth it, and it proved he's still a good player. Lavar makes enough of an impact.

@offiss: You really think Chris Clemons was gonna be Lavar's full time replacement? what a daft statement, considering when Lavar wasn't in there on first and second down, Warrick Holdman was. Chris Clemons only came in on third downs to rush the passer. The reason for that is, Chris Clemons can rush the passer better than Lavar. I don't have any problem saying that, Chris Clemons has speed, and that's what his primary role is.

mcalderone10 · 01-08-2006, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

NO - it was a big deal. That's the point. Lavar makes a great play followed by a bonehead play. Fortunately the defense stepped up and covered for him giving away a crucial first down. Sorry - if he gets recognition for the good stuff then fess up and admit that the was a classic dumb Lavar mistake.

Again, MW is hyped every f***ing play - When was the last time you saw him jump offsides?

To win at the highest level it takes everybody doing all the little things right. No freebies for the other team. That's what Gibbs has been preaching, that's what the majority of the players seem to understand and that's why we are in the playoffs.

you are talking like we can only keep one or the other they are BOTH BEASTS. lavar has history being one of 2 multiyear skins pro bowlers the other being samuels. like smart people have said greg williams is the genious behind the Defense stop saying MW is better he's just had more time with the GW defense remember lavar was out most of last year while marcus was playin GW way. LAVAR is just needs time he's gone through so many dif D coordinators we NEED him back this feels like its dan snyder's money paid D not the redskins D i remember with smoot champ lavar and my man Darrell Green. I love the D just gotta hold on to the same players to keep this team a team.

PorterHouse · 01-09-2006, 12:55 AM

To rush the qb it's common knowledge that Lavar has had his problems. comin back from injury, fitting in with the system. if The Great G.W. didnt think he could help this D then he would be on the bench. He's done it already. The mans a starter and a presence. Stop hatin on him. I remember us only sendin one or two people to the pro bowl and Lavar was always one of em. How can you say you like the team and your hatin on a team mate. This guy gave his all for the Skins, Iremember every tackle he made was so hard that he would have to come out cause he hurt himself,( ask Troy if he's a player)Six years how many defensive coordinators how many different systems? Can you blame him for wanting to freelance out there. Now he knows what he got to do and thats ok with me as long as we are winning thats all that matters. I m a Redskins fan not a Marcus fan or a Lavar fan I love the whole team everyone has a roll and everyones playin it. They both had the exact same stats 9 tackles 1 pick. but the biggest thing you need to remember is the score. If anyone should go its the guy holdin the wire from Joe"s headset cause joe tripped over it at least twice.

PorterHouse · 01-09-2006, 02:52 AM

Your a waste of an opinion you make no sense.>>>>>>>" There is a big difference between hatin and telling it like it is, perhaps Lavar is part of the reason we had a different coordinator every year? "<<<<<<<<<<yeah that makes alot of sense we did have the best coaching staff every year too. i dont know why im wastin my time with this

#56fanatic · 01-09-2006, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by hurrykaine

Note to Lavar: See what happens when you play within the scheme? He was in position and that's why he landed the INT right in his lap. If he'd been chasing someone else or trying to bullrush when he wasn't called upon to, he wouldn't have been able to make the play. Of course, Lavar proved that he wasn't the brightest bulb on the christmas tree when he jumped offsides on a 3rd and 5 to give TB a first down - keeping TB's drive alive and leading to three points.

All said, Lavar did end up having a good game, and he has been a positive locker room influence. Gotta be excited for the guy who's been waiting 6 years to get to the playoffs. I want to belive he wants to be here next year, but i don't see him willing to renegotiate his deal after the ugliness that transpired between him and the skins management.

So when somebody has a good game its within the scheme, a bad game and he didn't. so if everyone is in the right place at the right time, no body should even be able to gain a single yard. I am so sick of hearing people say about him out of position when everyone else seems to get free passes. Sean Taylor is out of position on a few plays everygame, Marshall too. Clark is cought off guard once or twice a game. This crap has got to stop. We won the game, he had a typical LaVar game. leave it at that.

dmek25 · 01-09-2006, 08:13 AM

im a redskin fan thats estatic that we have 2 of the leagues premier linebackers playing for the skins.i hope we can have this debate after next week victory in which lavar and marcus both have 10 tackles and both have an interception.every team in the league would love to have this so called "problem" that we think we have here on this thread

#56fanatic · 01-09-2006, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

He did have that big INT, but he also had another silly offsides penalty on 3rd and 5 extending a drive for the Bucs. He's got to get more disciplined there

Are you people kidding me. 5 yards, 1 time. compared to 10 tackles, int , forced fumble. you people are nit picking big time. I think we as a team played a pretty good game defensively, and you want to pick out one offside penalty? give me a break

#56fanatic · 01-09-2006, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Southpaw

I agree that Marcus Washington had a hell of a game, but if you want to get technical, he was in the right place at the right time for the pick at the end of the game. And his strip and recovery was nice, but he almost gave it right back to the Buc's, if not for the athleticism of Sean Taylor.

I agree. Worshipping LaVar is a bit overboard, but so is acting as though he's only a troublemaker, and not a team player(not that you do, but there are plenty that do).

How about all 3 LBs had a hell of game. 33 tackles between them, two forced fumbles and two ints. that is pretty damn good from three players.

01-08-2006, 04:45 PM	#63
PorterHouse No new threads for you Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 37 Posts: 230	Re: How bout it Lavar its almost idioc Paintrain isnt it?

01-08-2006, 07:02 PM	#65
ladyfan06 Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Suitland, Maryland Age: 36 Posts: 123	Re: How bout it Lavar I am really beginning to grow tired of how much we come on the website and try to compare one of our beloved -vs- one of our beloved (i.e. Brunell vs Ramsey saga)..both LA and MW were GREAT...the D was just GREAT. Any contribution that LA or MW gives us on any play I will take it and I refuse to spend time picking apart whom is better than the other! They are BOTH Redskins players, we are ALL Redskins fans (supposedly)....like Lavar said Loyalty is a two-way street....respect him and root for him just because he is a SKINS player trying to accomplish the ultimate...the SB. Don't get me wrong...I am not a LAVAR-worshipper as someone earlier stated in the thread...nor am I a MARCUS-hater....good football is good football and if Lavar can make 1 good play or Marcus makes 1 good play it does not matter to me....with that being said....the ultimate ingredient in the recipe for success in the game of football is TEAMWORK>>> Please save all your dissections and comparisons for the offseason, we don't need that right now! Concentrate, focus and prepare for Seattle and win the game! GOOOOOOO SKINS!!!!! __________________ LOYALTY is being Redskins fans!!

01-08-2006, 07:13 PM	#67
jtm74 Camp Scrub Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22	Re: How bout it Lavar [QUOTE=Mattyk72]MW has been making those kinds of plays all year, LaVar finallly makes one and everyone goes nuts.[/QU lavars been making plays for this team six years so shut ya piehole OTE]

01-08-2006, 07:39 PM	#68
mooby MVP Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NoVa Age: 24 Posts: 11,179	Re: How bout it Lavar I am a Lavar fan, but I am a Marcus fan as well. For the Lavar haters, you guys all talk about how much he sucks, and yada yada, but the fact is, when he is on the field, he makes an impact. No, you don't see a huge play as much as you do from marcus, but when he's on the field, other teams know where he is, and that frees things up for our other playmakers. No doubt Marcus has been the better player all year long, but as soon as Lavar does one good thing all I hear from the Lavar haters is that he was lucky, yada yada, he got lucky they ruled it down by contact, and all i hear from the Lavar worshipers is that he is totally worth it, and it proved he's still a good player. Lavar makes enough of an impact. @offiss: You really think Chris Clemons was gonna be Lavar's full time replacement? what a daft statement, considering when Lavar wasn't in there on first and second down, Warrick Holdman was. Chris Clemons only came in on third downs to rush the passer. The reason for that is, Chris Clemons can rush the passer better than Lavar. I don't have any problem saying that, Chris Clemons has speed, and that's what his primary role is.

01-09-2006, 12:55 AM	#70
PorterHouse No new threads for you Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 37 Posts: 230	Re: How bout it Lavar To rush the qb it's common knowledge that Lavar has had his problems. comin back from injury, fitting in with the system. if The Great G.W. didnt think he could help this D then he would be on the bench. He's done it already. The mans a starter and a presence. Stop hatin on him. I remember us only sendin one or two people to the pro bowl and Lavar was always one of em. How can you say you like the team and your hatin on a team mate. This guy gave his all for the Skins, Iremember every tackle he made was so hard that he would have to come out cause he hurt himself,( ask Troy if he's a player)Six years how many defensive coordinators how many different systems? Can you blame him for wanting to freelance out there. Now he knows what he got to do and thats ok with me as long as we are winning thats all that matters. I m a Redskins fan not a Marcus fan or a Lavar fan I love the whole team everyone has a roll and everyones playin it. They both had the exact same stats 9 tackles 1 pick. but the biggest thing you need to remember is the score. If anyone should go its the guy holdin the wire from Joe"s headset cause joe tripped over it at least twice.

01-09-2006, 02:52 AM	#71
PorterHouse No new threads for you Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 37 Posts: 230	Re: How bout it Lavar Your a waste of an opinion you make no sense.>>>>>>>" There is a big difference between hatin and telling it like it is, perhaps Lavar is part of the reason we had a different coordinator every year? "<<<<<<<<<<yeah that makes alot of sense we did have the best coaching staff every year too. i dont know why im wastin my time with this

01-09-2006, 08:13 AM	#73
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 51 Posts: 10,442	Re: How bout it Lavar im a redskin fan thats estatic that we have 2 of the leagues premier linebackers playing for the skins.i hope we can have this debate after next week victory in which lavar and marcus both have 10 tackles and both have an interception.every team in the league would love to have this so called "problem" that we think we have here on this thread

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