Offensive Coordinator

cpayne5 · 01-11-2006, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Matty, I thought that about that play at first too, then they showed another picture and that INT was squarely on Brunell. I simply don't understand why we dont even ATTEMPT to get Jacobs the ball. We average throwing towards him like once a game, if that.

It wasn't squarely on Brunell. Jacobs got out-muscled and out-hustled to the ball. Simple as that. Looking back, yeah, Brunell probably shouldn't have thrown the ball, but as an NFL QB, you expect your WRs to make a play sometimes!

He never gets ANY separation from defenders in games. I don't know what his deal is.

Mattyk · 01-11-2006, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Matty, I thought that about that play at first too, then they showed another picture and that INT was squarely on Brunell. I simply don't understand why we dont even ATTEMPT to get Jacobs the ball. We average throwing towards him like once a game, if that.

I'm not saying it wasn't a poor decision by Brunell, it was, but it wasn't a great effort on TJ's part either. The defender outplayed him for the ball. Top flight WR's don't let that happen. At the least, TJ needed to play the role of defender in that situation and try to knock the ball away.

Darrell_Green_28 · 01-11-2006, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor

I think that the Redskins would be a better offensive football team if we had an offensive coordinator to help Gibbs come back to being a genius at calling offensive plays. We desperately need an OC if we ever want to compete for a championship in the near future.

Just one thing about this statement.
Aren't we NOW competing for a Championship?

or do the Playoffs have nothing to do with that?

firstdown · 01-11-2006, 10:38 AM

I just can't figure out why so many people try to second guess what Gibbs does. We have had how may loosing seasons while he was away and its taken him how many years to get us in the playoffs? If I would have ask anyone on this sight that if we were playing in the second week of the playoffs would we have had a succesful season? I bet 99% would have said yes and some would have been happy with a winning season and not making the playoffs. We have achieved more than most would have expected. So lets stop second guessing the coaching, QB, players and the ownership and start applauding our achievments. I for one after Saturdays game will applaud our achievments win or a loss but of course would rather applaud a win.

skinsguy · 01-11-2006, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

When I watched the Dallas game I saw Jacobs wide open quite a few times and no one even looked his way. We NEED to spread the ball around a bit more. Even if we dont break huge plays with these other players it keeps the defense honest.

Skinsguy -- I'd LOVE to see where people wanted to can Williams. Please post a thread.

Oh trust me, there was a thread. In fact, there might have even been more than one.

Mattyk · 01-11-2006, 11:28 AM

Here's one that gets on GW pretty good, I'm sure there are more. Perhaps TAFKAS who is our resident archivist can dig up some more.

http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread...=greg+williams (Gregg Williams Has Some Explaining to Do!)

celts32 · 01-11-2006, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I believe sooner or later Patten would have broken through with some big games for us. It was inevitable with the way Moss was playing things would have opened up for him.

As for Jacobs, I've had his back for quite a while now but I'm on the edge with him now. I really didn't like the way he went after the ball on that INT last week, a very weak effort if you ask me. Coaches have said he's amazing in practice but he hasn't been able to translate that to the game for whatever reason. He couldn't even hold the job over Thrash. I don't think it's looking very good for him headed into the offseason.

I have thought all weak that TJ did a terrible job on that interception last week but I didn't want to start a negative thread after a win. He MUST break up that interception. That was a completely weak attempt on that ball. Now Brunell should not have thrown it, but sometimes QB's make mistakes and it is up to the WR to play DB on some passes. TJ should have tackled that DB if necessary.

Hog1 · 01-11-2006, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

I just can't figure out why so many people try to second guess what Gibbs does. We have had how may losing seasons while he was away and its taken him how many years to get us in the playoffs? If I would have ask anyone on this sight that if we were playing in the second week of the playoffs would we have had a succesful season? I bet 99% would have said yes and some would have been happy with a winning season and not making the playoffs. We have achieved more than most would have expected. So lets stop second guessing the coaching, QB, players and the ownership and start applauding our achievments. I for one after Saturdays game will applaud our achievments win or a loss but of course would rather applaud a win.

TREMENDOUS POST!!!! Totally on the mark. I think many people on this site cannot understand all the second guessing BS. Particularly in light of the INCREDIBLE turnaround this season!

skinsguy · 01-11-2006, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Here's one that gets on GW pretty good, I'm sure there are more. Perhaps TAFKAS who is our resident archivist can dig up some more.

http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread...=greg+williams (Gregg Williams Has Some Explaining to Do!)

Yeah, that's the one I found as well. The point is, alot of Redskins fans have gotten so bitchy, that they can't appreciate us being in the playoffs. They can't appreciate the fact that we've actually advanced in the playoffs. Last year, I remember people who dumped on Joe Gibbs said "I'll give him three years to turn things around." He's done it in two seasons! Very few of us expect the Redskins to even make the playoffs this year. Here is a history lesson for ya: Joe's offenses in the past were never the type that would score 40+ points in each and every game. The 1991 season was probably the closest that he came to having an "Indy" type of offense. And just remember....back then we had 3 outstanding receivers on our team who were difference makers. This season, we've had only one guy like that. For us to have games where we've put up 30+ points with only one true deep threat has been outstanding.

I guess it's just the Snyder mentality that some Redskins fans are going to have to out grow.

Hog1 · 01-11-2006, 12:06 PM

Joe NEVER said he would have an instant turnaround that would succeed, then dismantle, and start over. That is a stupid plan for anyone (however popular it might be) with a low success probability. He DID say he would return the Redskins (by the end of his tenure) to a competative, proud team in the REDSKIN TRADITION that fans could be proud of for years to come. Good plan.................he is ahead of schedule

skinsguy · 01-11-2006, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

I just can't figure out why so many people try to second guess what Gibbs does. We have had how may loosing seasons while he was away and its taken him how many years to get us in the playoffs? If I would have ask anyone on this sight that if we were playing in the second week of the playoffs would we have had a succesful season? I bet 99% would have said yes and some would have been happy with a winning season and not making the playoffs. We have achieved more than most would have expected. So lets stop second guessing the coaching, QB, players and the ownership and start applauding our achievments. I for one after Saturdays game will applaud our achievments win or a loss but of course would rather applaud a win.

Brilliant! Absolutely right!

70Chip · 01-11-2006, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm not saying it wasn't a poor decision by Brunell, it was, but it wasn't a great effort on TJ's part either. The defender outplayed him for the ball. Top flight WR's don't let that happen. At the least, TJ needed to play the role of defender in that situation and try to knock the ball away.

In Jacobs defense, Brunell never throws to him so he was probably the most surprised person in all of Florida when he saw Brunell throw across the grain. And noone is ever going to confuse Taylor for a top flight WR.

skinsttw · 01-11-2006, 03:36 PM

I think the offense makeover is going very well. Add another top-notch WR and we are set. Maybe some depth on O-line.

FRPLG · 01-11-2006, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsttw

I think the offense makeover is going very well. Add another top-notch WR and we are set. Maybe some depth on O-line.

Doesn't even need to be top flight. I think we'd settle for productive. With Patten back and another productive guy we'd be set even with an injury.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 01-11-2006, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The offensive made HUGE strides this year.

They finished #11 overall, produced a WR that was 2nd in the NFL with 1483 yards and a RB who was 4th in the NFL in rushing with 1516 yards, both team records.

I think the offense is fine.

The offense has indeed made enormous strides this year. What we need to see is a more consistent offense. One week our offense is lighting up defenses and the next, it's struggling to get rushing yards. I don't think the offense is fine, but it's pretty decent.

01-11-2006, 10:38 AM	#34
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 49 Posts: 15,184	Re: Offensive Coordinator I just can't figure out why so many people try to second guess what Gibbs does. We have had how may loosing seasons while he was away and its taken him how many years to get us in the playoffs? If I would have ask anyone on this sight that if we were playing in the second week of the playoffs would we have had a succesful season? I bet 99% would have said yes and some would have been happy with a winning season and not making the playoffs. We have achieved more than most would have expected. So lets stop second guessing the coaching, QB, players and the ownership and start applauding our achievments. I for one after Saturdays game will applaud our achievments win or a loss but of course would rather applaud a win.

01-11-2006, 11:28 AM	#36
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,656	Re: Offensive Coordinator Here's one that gets on GW pretty good, I'm sure there are more. Perhaps TAFKAS who is our resident archivist can dig up some more. http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread...=greg+williams (Gregg Williams Has Some Explaining to Do!) __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

01-11-2006, 12:06 PM	#40
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 8,373	Re: Offensive Coordinator Joe NEVER said he would have an instant turnaround that would succeed, then dismantle, and start over. That is a stupid plan for anyone (however popular it might be) with a low success probability. He DID say he would return the Redskins (by the end of his tenure) to a competative, proud team in the REDSKIN TRADITION that fans could be proud of for years to come. Good plan.................he is ahead of schedule __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... Win! Always win! By fair means or foul, by soft words and hard deeds... by treachery, by cunning, by malpractice... but always win--Edward Teach

01-11-2006, 03:36 PM	#43
skinsttw Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 174	Re: Offensive Coordinator I think the offense makeover is going very well. Add another top-notch WR and we are set. Maybe some depth on O-line. __________________ Go skins!

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