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Old 01-11-2006, 11:30 AM   #76
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Re: Sean Taylor Spitting Video

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Let's save the discussion of the need and importance of social norms for another day.

At least we got to the heart of the matter while staying relatively civil.

I still think you're a homer!

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LOL. Don't get me wrong, I'd be VERY happy if Roy Williams got ejected for spitting on Ladell Betts. But I wouldn't agree with the call.

In the Taylor case, I was both VERY unhappy and in disagreement at the same time. Which made for a very angry Schneed10.

(When he was ejected, my wife decided my outburst was the last straw in a series of very animated outbursts, and she went out to get a bite to eat. My dog simultaneously ran to her cage in fear. I had to console the dog for a good 30 minutes after the game to convince her that I wasn't upset at her LOL)
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Old 01-11-2006, 11:42 AM   #77
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I agree you need a nasty jerk in the backfield on defense. But, not one who gives the other team a 1st down when they were 4th and 15 or who gets ejected in a playoff game.
I think you have to take the good with the bad. Those "nasty jerks" are going to do this on occasion. I am willing to live with it as long as it isn't a weekly affair. But I'd rather he just off and beat the hell out of the f*&^er. At least then other players realize he's a badass who'll kick your nuts off if given the chance. Spitting just makes him look like he's 5 years old. Nothing to gain fom it.
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Old 01-11-2006, 11:55 AM   #78
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Taylor is a great player, but what a jerk. It's too bad that GW vouched for that .......
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Old 01-11-2006, 12:12 PM   #79
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In my book, spitting is worse than throwing a punch because it's such a total lack of class and sportsmanship.

In the heat of the battle, punches will fly on occassion and to me that's much more understandable than someone resorting to the punk-ass action of spitting at someone.

I can still respect someone who gets heated and throws a punch. But someone who spits I just lose all respect for.

Now don't get me wrong, I still think ST is a heck of a player and I'd rather have him on our side, but in the end he's a punk with alot of growing up to do. He could have cost his team the game, and that's a very selfish and immature thing to do.
I respect your opinion but I see it pretty much the opposite.

Yes, spitting is disgusting - but it amounts to nothing more than an immature lack of respect in my book. Throwing punches, or worse, something like Marcus Vick stomping down on the calf of an opponent is far worse.

Just my opinion and I'm sure many disagree - I just feel that violence and a clear intent to inflict serious bodily injury on someone is far worse than hocking some spit which is just gross.

What further compounds the whole Taylor situation is that he lied about it. Somebody doing something like that in the heat of the moment is bad enough and shows a lack of control and discipline. Lying about it straight to both your coaches, your team and the entire country shows an utter lack of character.
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Old 01-11-2006, 12:12 PM   #80
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I herd bout this video one some gay WJFK show. I looked for it but i knew all i had to do was come and here and it would be here. Man that sucks its so unfortunate. DISTRACTION!! EXACTLY WAHT WE DONT NEED.
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Old 01-11-2006, 12:14 PM   #81
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Just a shade off topic here, but can anyone tell me where the fine money goes? I mean players get fined on a regular basis and over the course of the season I'm sure it adds up to millions. What does the NFL do with the money?
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Old 01-11-2006, 12:15 PM   #82
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[QUOTE=mheisig]I respect your opinion but I see it pretty much the opposite.

Yes, spitting is disgusting - but it amounts to nothing more than an immature lack of respect in my book. Throwing punches, or worse, something like Marcus Vick stomping down on the calf of an opponent is far worse."

In the football sense i don think its anyworse because they all yeild the same concequnces. Getting thrown out of the game. That interutps tempo and the flow of the defense
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Old 01-11-2006, 12:19 PM   #83
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This is exactly my point. Carey essentially felt the act was so disgusting that Taylor deserved to be smacked. That's BS, refs should not have power to interpret the rulebook based on their emotions. Carey experienced the emotion of disgust and levied a ruling partially based on that emotion; that's not rational judgment.

It probably explains why the NFL didn't hit ST with much of a fine.
I tend to agree. I thought that there should have been offsetting 15 yard penalties and an ejection for ST. That would have been the proper way to officiate the play in my opinion. It is not up to the official to determine whether ilegal actions by one party excuse the ilegal actions of another. Basicaly, the ref here applied the "two wrongs make a right" rule. Absurd...
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Old 01-11-2006, 12:32 PM   #84
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THere's something particularly nasty and negative about spitting in someone's face--in football, they're hitting each other all the time. Spitting is a different kind of thing--it's a sort of personal disrespect. I think it's totally appropriate that Taylor was tossed. One the video, listen to the skins response to the ref--he says that Taylor spit in Pittman's face; the skins (I think it's Prileau or Stoutmeyer, maybe (sps??)) say oh! and stop asking questions. I think most players would agree that it was the right move. About the retaliation--hard to say.

My main hope is that Taylor friggin learns from this!!! My god, he almost cost us the game in the playoffs! Can you imagine what this thread would be like if the bucs had caught that pass that got behind our depleted secondary? Wow. He needs to wake up--you can't act like a punk. It hurts the team.
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Old 01-11-2006, 12:45 PM   #85
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I heard that this video on putfile, is a doctored video. I have seen several views and even watched the game in slo mo at home last night, and there is nothing there.
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Old 01-11-2006, 01:00 PM   #86
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Staks--that's interesting. Where did you hear that it was doctored? I, too, wondered that--not the rest of the vid, but just the obvious lugie that you see. If that's the netwrok feed, why didn't they show it? It's crucial and graphic video, just the sort of thing that you replay over and over...
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Old 01-11-2006, 01:05 PM   #87
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I like you (except for the dude from Scotland, and the down under guy.......and 5rings) am an AMERICAN. I am proud of America, and the American institution of football. It occupies a signifigant amount of my time. As we all know Football is a violent sport. Sometmes things get out of hand and the violence goes beyond the allowable "play". Not acceptable, but understandable. Take your penalty and be on your way with dignity, pride, intact.

Spitting on an opponent has NOTHING to do with the game. It's akin' to taking a shit on the field of play. Just NASTY!!!!!!!! I mean is that REALLY necessary. To an American (and I am sure everone else-rightly, or wrongly) it is an extreme sign of disrespect. NOT understandable and NOT acceptable. he deserves what he got and maybe more. I have tremendous respect for ST and the job he does. Definately one of my favorite dudes. Let's just say I am pissed off by this. He needs to pay the price for his indiscretion, learn from it and be done with it! Dude needs NO MORE trouble in his life.
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Old 01-11-2006, 01:12 PM   #88
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A friend of mine who authenticates videos, said that the video looks doctored. He told me to watch the film, check out how, the spitting section of the video comes up, the video breaks up into single frames, not regular slo mo. I am sure that some crappy website would have this visual proof, before ESPN or any other media outlet (thats saracasm).
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A friend of mine who authenticates videos, said that the video looks doctored. He told me to watch the film, check out how, the spitting section of the video comes up, the video breaks up into single frames, not regular slo mo. I am sure that some crappy website would have this visual proof, before ESPN or any other media outlet (thats saracasm).
I would not like to believe in this conspiracy theory and before we lose any credibility as Redskins fans, I motion for us to take this with a grain of salt and think about Seattle (even though I did start the thread ).
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Old 01-11-2006, 01:19 PM   #90
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Guys, lets save all the legal/ethical debates for the offseason. I can't believe we are one win away from the conference championship game & here we are discussing someone's saliva. If he did it, he should be ashamed, if he didn't then he got screwed out of $17K, if the tape has been tampered with then someone has too much time on their hands. Either way, it changes nothing. Get past it...
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