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Old 01-13-2006, 02:59 PM   #1
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Bill Simmons can suck it...

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...simmons/060113
SEAHAWKS (-9.5) over Redskins
Rule No. 10 of the Manifesto applies here: "Only pick an underdog or a road team if you're convinced it has a chance to win the game outright."

Four reasons why the Redskins seem cooked to me ...

1. After they grabbed that two-touchdown lead in Tampa, Joe Gibbs clearly shifted into "I'm not taking another chance" mode. He doesn't trust their offense. It's obvious. There's a reason Washington's best drive on Saturday was 10 plays for 40 yards -- for the entire second half, they were playing not to lose.

2. There's a difference between "a little banged up" and "laboring and suffering" ... and Clinton Portis was laboring and suffering with that bum shoulder last weekend. He looked miserable. Don't see that one getting better in a week.

3. Six straight must-win games for the Skins ... that adds up after awhile, doesn't it? Let's say that Edell Shepherd hangs onto that game-tying touchdown pass in Tampa (and I'm not sure how he dropped it) with three minutes to play. Did anyone think the Skins had enough left in the tank to win that game? Now they have to fly cross-country and play in one of the toughest stadiums in the league? Against a well-rested team that puts up 30 points a game at home?

4. Let's say the Skins fall behind by double-digits in this one. Have you seen anything from their offense lately to make you even remotely think they could come back? There's always one blowout in Round 2. Always. And this looks like the one.

The Pick: Seahawks 30, Washington 6
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Old 01-13-2006, 03:03 PM   #2
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Re: Bill Simmons can suck it...

Simmons isn't even a sports columnist anymore. He's basically just a comedian whose material goes into print. I've never heard him offer any real insight on anything, so I'm not real inclined to value this opinion.
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Old 01-13-2006, 03:05 PM   #3
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Re: Bill Simmons can suck it...

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4. Let's say the Skins fall behind by double-digits in this one. Have you seen anything from their offense lately to make you even remotely think they could come back? There's always one blowout in Round 2. Always. And this looks like the one.

The Pick: Seahawks 30, Washington 6
The "experts" were probably saying the samething back in week two when the Redskins fell behind by a double digit lead and had a worse offensive showing than last week's game up until Brunell to Moss happens twice within a minute. So yes, the Redskins can comeback. The media is making the Seahawks out to be a much stronger team than what they really are. I don't mind having the worst team in the NFL playoffs make it to the NFC Championship game!
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Old 01-13-2006, 03:09 PM   #4
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30-6? aa-hahahahahahahaha.

Antonio takes the opening kickoff to the house. Skins D causes an early turnover. No way this'll be a blow out.
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Old 01-13-2006, 03:10 PM   #5
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Re: Bill Simmons can suck it...

I find it interesting that the talking heads are prepared to sum up our entire season and come to a conclusion based on how we do this Saturday.

They so underestimate Clinton Portis' toughness. And they so underestimate Gibbs' ability to game plan and adjust.

He goes on to say six straight wins add up, well last time I checked Seattle ripped off eleven in a roll. Why is six or seven out of the question for us?

If Edell Shepherd holds onto that pass, if....if.....if....
....if he holds on, maybe he's playing in Tampa but somewhere else!

See you in Carolina next week Simmons!!
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Old 01-13-2006, 03:11 PM   #6
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Not unless it's us blowing them out! The Redskins are about ready to prove the country..namely the critics all wrong. I hope everybody likes the taste of crow after this one!
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Old 01-13-2006, 03:12 PM   #7
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Not unless it's us blowing them out! The Redskins are about ready to prove the country..namely the critics all wrong. I hope everybody likes the taste of crow after this one!
Trust me, the Redskins have nothing left to prove.
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Old 01-13-2006, 03:14 PM   #8
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I guess that's why they play the games, to prove the blowhards wrong!
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Old 01-13-2006, 03:16 PM   #9
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He's got the part about there always being a Blow Out in the second round right - but it will be the Skins on TOP!!!! 35-7
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Old 01-13-2006, 03:23 PM   #10
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Ten reasons why the Redskins can beat the Seahawks.

1) Excluding their meaningless late-season games with the Colts and Packers (W and L, respectively), the Seahawks have played four teams with a winning record and have split those contests. The Redskins, meanwhile, have played eleven teams with a winning record and are 6-5 in those games.

2) The Seahawks two wins against teams with winning records came via monumental gaffes by their opponents. In week 7 against Dallas, Drew Bledsoe threw an ill-advised last-second interception that set up a game-winning Seattle FG. Five weeks later, in another home game against an NFC East opponent, Giants kicker Jay Feely missed three makeable FGs in the 4th quarter and overtime. Don't tell me Seattle is invincible at home.

3) In his nine games against teams with records worse than 6-10, Alexander is averaging 131.1 yards and 2.33 touchdowns. In four games against teams with winning records, Shaun Alexander is averaging 85.5 yards and .5 touchdowns. If A. Rod doesn't play in the World Baseball Classic, maybe Shaun A. could take his place, seeing as they both love piling up stats against inferior opponents but never seem to get it done in big games.

4) Everyone talks about how difficult it is to win a Wild Card and Divisional Playoff game on the road. And they're right. Only twice since the NFL expanded to a 12-team playoff in 1990 have teams won road games in the first two rounds of the playoffs. The last team to do it was the 1996 Jacksonville Jaguars. Their quarterback? Mark Brunell.

5) Joe Gibbs has a career 18-5 record in the playoffs and is 19-4 in games played in January.

6) The Seahawks franchise has not won a playoff game since 1984, the longest such current drought in the NFL. Under Holmgren, Seattle is 0-3 in the playoffs, including a home-loss last season to the underdog St. Louis Rams.

7) Mike Holmgren is a very good coach, but he hasn't won a playoff game without Brett Favre. Joe Gibbs, on the other hand, is a very great coach and has won playoff games and Super Bowls with Jay Schroeder, Doug Williams and Mark Rypien.

8) Seattle tackle Walter Jones is one of, if the not the, best offensive lineman in football. This should help quell Philip Daniels, but the strength of the Redskins d-line is not on the outside but in the middle with Cornelius Griffin and Joe Salave'a.

9) The Redskins have played four "rematch" games this season (Dallas, New York, Tampa Bay and Philadelphia). In the first games against those teams, Washington was outscored 95-66. In the rematches, it was Washington that did the outscoring: 118-57. Gibbs took them from a 29-point deficit to a 61-point advantage, which leads me to #10, the most important fact on this list:

10) Week 3: Washington 20 - Seattle 17. It's one thing to think the Redskins won't win. But to think they can't, especially in light of the fact they've already beaten Seattle this season, is absurd.
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Old 01-13-2006, 03:25 PM   #11
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Re: Bill Simmons can suck it...

I just wrote this email to Simmons concerning Seattles "tough" stadium...



First of all, let me start off by saying that I am a huge Redskins fan, so this will obviously be biased.



I'm not writing to argue with your picks. The Seahawks are the top seed and my Skins have been playing at a high level for over a month now (we'll still show everyone something nice tomorrow though). But I do have a problem with something you wrote in your reasons for picking Seattle to cover. Did I read you correctly when I saw that you said Seattle has one of the toughest stadiums to play in? Are you kidding me? Granted, any road playoff game has got to be tough on the visiting team. And yes, the constant rain may be a factor, but I don't think that is what you meant when you made this ridiculous statement.



Just think of where the Skins have played this year and compare them to Qwest Field.

1.) Philly - Notorious for their fans and their crappy field (I know its a new stadium but that field looked terrible the last time we played them). This is the same place that booed/threw snowballs at Santa. That's a home field advantage.

2.) Dallas (on the MNF game that saw the triplets get inducted into the ring of honor) - The only place that hates Washington more is Paris or Hell (although I hear hell has wonderful locker rooms). The fans are always frenzied when the Skins are in town.

3.) New York - Granted, the Panthers just ruined this place for awhile. Any field that more than likely has a dead union boss in one of the end zones has got to be a tough place to play. This is also the same stadium (true, for a different team) that had to recently ban alcohol for a game.

4.) Tampa - The Skins have played here twice this year and come out with a victory TWICE (Alstott's elbow was down). On the radio this past Monday I heard that those running the stadium passed out white towels and basically instructed the fans to wave them whenever the Skins had the ball. Is this the student section at Cameron or an NFL stadium?

5.) Kansas City - From what I understand Arrowhead is widely regarded as one of the toughest places to play in the NFL. The Skins lost here too, but it was a close game that came down to the last quarter.

6.) Denver - This game was played in near freezing rain, and again the Skins got screwed out of a win because of the freakin' Tuck Rule (even though the ref said "the quarterback tucked the ball, so it is an incomplete pass and not a fumble into the end zone") which was an incorrect call.



The other two stadiums the Redskins played at this year were not that tough as far as venues are concerned: St. Louis and Arizona. Maybe the NFC West just doesn't have tough stadiums, who knows?



Let's also not forget where the Skins play their home games: FedEx Field, the largest and loudest stadium in the NFL. Away coaches are always saying how hard it is to get plays called when 90,000 people are screaming like idiots. Even when the Redskins have the ball its hard to get it quiet in that place (my eardrums are still pounding from the last game I went to). I know playing on the road is completely different than playing at home, but I think this Redskins team is used to playing in hostel environments.



To say that Seattle has one of the toughest stadiums to play in has got to be a joke. You're a funny guy Bill, I just didn't think you were this funny.
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Old 01-13-2006, 03:45 PM   #12
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http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...simmons/060113
SEAHAWKS (-9.5) over Redskins
Rule No. 10 of the Manifesto applies here: "Only pick an underdog or a road team if you're convinced it has a chance to win the game outright."

Four reasons why the Redskins seem cooked to me ...

1. After they grabbed that two-touchdown lead in Tampa, Joe Gibbs clearly shifted into "I'm not taking another chance" mode. He doesn't trust their offense. It's obvious. There's a reason Washington's best drive on Saturday was 10 plays for 40 yards -- for the entire second half, they were playing not to lose.

2. There's a difference between "a little banged up" and "laboring and suffering" ... and Clinton Portis was laboring and suffering with that bum shoulder last weekend. He looked miserable. Don't see that one getting better in a week.

3. Six straight must-win games for the Skins ... that adds up after awhile, doesn't it? Let's say that Edell Shepherd hangs onto that game-tying touchdown pass in Tampa (and I'm not sure how he dropped it) with three minutes to play. Did anyone think the Skins had enough left in the tank to win that game? Now they have to fly cross-country and play in one of the toughest stadiums in the league? Against a well-rested team that puts up 30 points a game at home?

4. Let's say the Skins fall behind by double-digits in this one. Have you seen anything from their offense lately to make you even remotely think they could come back? There's always one blowout in Round 2. Always. And this looks like the one.

The Pick: Seahawks 30, Washington 6
I dont see anything that he says is wrong,everything he says is the absolute truth,the only thing i disagree with him on is the final score
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Old 01-13-2006, 04:21 PM   #13
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I dont see anything that he says is wrong,everything he says is the absolute truth,the only thing i disagree with him on is the final score
Yea most of the stuff he says is legit, except #3(haha yea its another number 3). I hate when people complain about the what if's, and he does not give enough credit to our tough schedule. That being said, the score also pisses me off, 30-6? wtf
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I dont see anything that he says is wrong,everything he says is the absolute truth,the only thing i disagree with him on is the final score
His argument number 1 is actually a good thing for the skins. So the offense went conservative in the last game after a 14-0 lead. That means that the offense is quite capable of putting up points and running up yards when we're not conservative.
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Old 01-13-2006, 04:46 PM   #15
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hesscl34 - It was Theismann, Williams and Rypien. Williams took over for Schroder during the year they won the Super Bowl

htown - you're absolutely right, he hasn't said anything that isn't true. however, the one thing Mr. Simmons has done is underestimated Coach Gibbs and Coach Williams to prepare their team for war.

while the odds of continuting a winning streak lessens each week, there were 2 teams who got 9+ wins in a row this year (Hawks, Colts), while not add another to that list.
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