Warpath  

Home | Forums | Salary Cap Info | Shop | Donate | Stay Connected




Go Back   Warpath > Redskins Forums > Redskins Locker Room


The Offense Was Too Conservative

Redskins Locker Room


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-14-2006, 07:53 PM   #16
‎\m/
 
Mattyk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 41
Posts: 81,297
Re: This Offense Is Too Conservative

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramseyfan
They were being coached the same way. I totally agree. But, as I said earlier, when your best run-blocking guard AND you star tailback are either out or totally banged-up, I think the game-plan should change.
It's been that way for weeks though.

We are what we are, a smashmouth football team.

If Brunell is dropping back 30-40 times, that's simply not our kind of game and doesn't play to our strengths.
__________________
Support The Warpath! | Warpath Shop
Mattyk is offline   Reply With Quote

Advertisements
Old 01-14-2006, 07:53 PM   #17
Franchise Player
 
Sheriff Gonna Getcha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 35
Posts: 8,317
Re: This Offense Is Too Conservative

Again, I would like to state for the record that Gibbs has done an outstanding job with the team. I would also like to remind people that I was saying that we were a good team when we were losing (so please don't peg me as a hater). I would also like to re-state that our playcalling might have been fine two weeks ago, but when you lose your best run-blocking guard and star tailback, you should re-focus your offense.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2006, 07:55 PM   #18
Playmaker
 
cpayne5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,807
Re: This Offense Is Too Conservative

Hail to the Redskins, Ramseyfan, hail to the Redskins. 11-7, good season. I am happy w/ the season and am gonna end my part of this thread here.
__________________
"It's not about what you've done, but what's been done for you."
cpayne5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2006, 07:55 PM   #19
Franchise Player
 
Sheriff Gonna Getcha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 35
Posts: 8,317
Re: This Offense Is Too Conservative

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattyk72
It's been that way for weeks though.

We are what we are, a smashmouth football team.

If Brunell is dropping back 30-40 times, that's simply not our kind of game and doesn't play to our strengths.
If I recall correctly (and I may not be), Portis wasn't seriously banged up until last week. I agree that Brunell dropping back 30-40 times usually doesn't play to our strengths, but when our running game was as bad as it was at the half (Portis averaged 2 ypc), it was time to re-focus.

I think we did re-focus in the 4th quarter. But, our 3rd quarter playcalling didn't reflect what Gibbs is so good at ... adapting.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2006, 07:56 PM   #20
Special Teams
 
AnonEmouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: UK
Age: 48
Posts: 469
Re: This Offense Is Too Conservative

I agree that we were a bit conservative in the first half. If we'd thrown the ball more...

However, if the OL had been fully fit, if we had a legitimate #2 receiver to pull ofthe double teaming, if we had a fully fit and effective DL, if we had a fully fit secondary, if we had someone who could kickoff into the endzone, if we could pin opponents deep with punts, if we didn't miss crucial FG's... if all that had been true, we'd have won the SB this year.

Fact is if's won't get us anywhere. If we'd thrown the ball more in the first half, maybe we'd have covered the spread, but basically the if's caught up with us today and we just never REALLY looked like winning. Just about everyone said we'd run out of steam and had to play on emotion alone. Sooner or later it catches up with you. To be honest, even if we'd won this one, we'd almost certainly have lost the next one. We are out of energy. Those guys, including the coaches, left everything on the field and I salute them.

I won't have a bad word said about JG, especially on the play calling. Next season with a good offseason program and maybe some fresh linemen on both sides, we are going to be strong. What JG has done in 2 years is amazing to me, especially considering the mess that Turner and Spurrier left us in after so many great years under Gibbs' first reign.

Go Joe, Go Skins and Go Ramseyfan and get drunk. Skins played a great season and gave us more than we expected. Enjoy the memories and look forward to more of the same.
AnonEmouse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2006, 07:57 PM   #21
Franchise Player
 
Sheriff Gonna Getcha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 35
Posts: 8,317
Re: This Offense Is Too Conservative

Perhaps I should have waited another day or two to post this thread. I didn't intend to come off as a hater and I should have realized that its timing was poor.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2006, 07:59 PM   #22
Special Teams
 
AnonEmouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: UK
Age: 48
Posts: 469
Re: This Offense Is Too Conservative

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramseyfan
Perhaps I should have waited another day or two to post this thread. I didn't intend to come off as a hater and I should have realized that its timing was poor.
An honest opinion is rarely poorly timed, just poorly received.

Like I said, get drunk enjoys the rest of the playoffs (especially when Seattle get beat next week) and look forward to next season.
AnonEmouse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2006, 07:59 PM   #23
Franchise Player
 
FRPLG's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Age: 35
Posts: 9,938
Re: This Offense Is Too Conservative

I think our offense improved this year. If they can improve by the same margin again next year we are a 12 win team if healthy. I think we should be proud that our team was in position to win this game most of the way and put forth a great effort. This was a true Gibbs team and I think we'll see something even better next year.
FRPLG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2006, 08:00 PM   #24
Camp Scrub
 
TAYLOR21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: DALE CITY,VA
Age: 24
Posts: 22
Re: This Offense Is Too Conservative

To me we need another WR because moss cant do it all by him self, because it looked as if we had one WR today because taylor jacobs sucks.
TAYLOR21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2006, 08:04 PM   #25
Pro Bowl
 
skinsguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Greensboro, North Carolina
Posts: 6,520
Re: This Offense Is Too Conservative

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramseyfan
Look, I don't want to start an argument. I will keep my posts civil.

I'm not pouting. I started a thread about the conservative nature of our offense. I also have posted in other threads what a fantastic job Gibbs has done with this team. Anyone who has read my posts over the past few weeks knows that I have given the coaching staff a lot of credit.

That said, I'm not going to say everything is perfect, because it is not.
I didn't say everything was perfect either. I just happened to agree with Davey's post, then you jumped on me. If you don't want to start an argument, don't start it.
__________________
Not the same Skinsguy that posts on ES.
skinsguy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2006, 08:06 PM   #26
LRT
Special Teams
 
LRT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Springfield, VA
Age: 48
Posts: 173
Re: This Offense Is Too Conservative

The basic problem is that without a legitimate second receiver (not to mention a third - or would that be greedy?) and with a big gap in the O-line, there just wasn't much of a "plan B" for us to fall back on. Gibbs did take quite a few risks in this game - going for it on fourth down several times, throwing deep on 4th and 2, etc. You could say that these were "too little, too late," but would they really have yielded better results if we had employed them sooner? Probably not, when you look at what they actually yielded when we used them.

What we need, now that the off season is here, is to work on getting at least two more legitimate receivers and a couple of solid back-up linemen. That will do more for this offense than anything else.
LRT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2006, 08:07 PM   #27
Franchise Player
 
Sheriff Gonna Getcha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 35
Posts: 8,317
Re: This Offense Is Too Conservative

Quote:
Originally Posted by skinsguy
I didn't say everything was perfect either. I just happened to agree with Davey's post, then you jumped on me. If you don't want to start an argument, don't start it.
I didn't mean to "jump on you." If you felt that I did, I apologize. I probably did not accurately convey my tone in my post.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2006, 08:07 PM   #28
Pro Bowl
 
skinsguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Greensboro, North Carolina
Posts: 6,520
Re: This Offense Is Too Conservative

Quote:
Originally Posted by TAYLOR21
To me we need another WR because moss cant do it all by him self, because it looked as if we had one WR today because taylor jacobs sucks.
I was saying that today. Another deep threat at WR can really make a world of difference. Even during our 6 game winning streak, I always felt we were short of one more playmaker on our offense but that we did a great job with what we had. I can't feel too bad. Yes, I feel bad about today's game...but we're just not ready to take that next step yet. We still accomplished alot more than what people, even fellow Redskins fans expected, so I feel good about being a Redskins fan.
__________________
Not the same Skinsguy that posts on ES.
skinsguy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2006, 08:08 PM   #29
Pro Bowl
 
skinsguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Greensboro, North Carolina
Posts: 6,520
Re: This Offense Is Too Conservative

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramseyfan
I didn't mean to "jump on you." If you felt that I did, I apologize.
No problem. I can understand being frustrated with today's game, but we all have to take a step back and look at the big picture. When we do, we can see that we accomplished quite a bit.
__________________
Not the same Skinsguy that posts on ES.
skinsguy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2006, 08:10 PM   #30
Camp Scrub
 
RunRunPass's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: REDSKINSLAND
Posts: 25
Re: This Offense Is Too Conservative

NO ITS NOT SAD. We started running the ball had low success. We also have to recognize our O line is NOT healthy they arent opening the same holes as they used to. We switched to a more throwing offense but agin we only have ONE reciever its tougth to mount a potent offense with ONE reciever. We took the team as far as we could now its time to address the gaps and Get ready to DOMINATE THE LEAUGE NEXT YEAR......HELLLL YEAHHH. GIBBS IS GREAT HE HAS BROUGHT BACK HOPE AND SUCCESS TO WASHINGTON AND THE REDSKINS.......i cant wait for AUGUST.........LETS GO SKINS
RunRunPass is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:55 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site is not officially affiliated with the Washington Redskins or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.28007 seconds with 9 queries

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25