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Old 01-14-2006, 08:11 PM   #31
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Re: This Offense Is Too Conservative

I am a big team supporter and was in Brunell's corner all year and this not in any way a diversion from that feeling but I think we need to get more agressive and I think with Brunell as QB we simply cannot do that. He plays smart. Too smart. He knows how to not turn the ball over much and that's by not taking any chances. problem is that skill wise he turns a lot of easier plays into more chancy plays. I like Brunell as a backup. And I like him with quality parts around him. But having one good WR and a banged up O-line is a recipe for disaster for this team. We depth at WR and anothe decent o-line. Raymer needs to go for sure.
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Old 01-14-2006, 08:13 PM   #32
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i dunno about u guys but im tired of john hall, i dunno if his time is up or hes still injured but CMON! not one kick got past the ten yard line!....and to miss a 34 yrder is horrible this guys gettin paid for this crap, gettin paid a good amount at that, i mean, his best play today is when he recovered the football on the fumble on the kickoff........corey raymer just looked lost me.......hes a backup center and needs to stick to that!
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Old 01-14-2006, 08:14 PM   #33
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Re: This Offense Is Too Conservative

I think there will certainly be an open competition for starting QB in training camp. Once again, unless we trade him, it will be Ramsey's job - or Campbell's - to win.

The big question, to me, is who can we get at WR and OL?
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Old 01-14-2006, 08:14 PM   #34
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...the guy isn't going to get any better.
Good point. I think we saw the most we can expect from him this year. It's not enough to get to the next level. Sorta like Dilfer wasn't good enough to keep Balt on top and look at them since their SB. We need to look at that team and figure out what they did wrong. Hint: they didn't get a top quality QB to run the O. I love Brunell and think he does great at what a BACKUP should do. Protect the ball and give the defense the reigns to the game. We can't continue that pattern.
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Old 01-14-2006, 08:18 PM   #35
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Offense never got hot until late in the 4th. Too many missed opportunities to score.

However, I'm very proud of the overall efforts of the coaches and players this year. We really got a great team here, one to build on for next season.... Hail SKIN!!!
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Old 01-14-2006, 08:19 PM   #36
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I think we were too conservative until we went down a lot and then we turned it up but it was way too late. It should be the other way around, be as aggressive as possible, then call the dogs off.
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Old 01-14-2006, 08:20 PM   #37
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Remember guys...that is why we got Jason Campbell. However, I think it was a great move to have Brunell starting for us this year. Believe me, you'll find that Campbell AND Ramsey benefited a great deal by watching a decent veteran QB run the offense. Sure, Brunell isn't a TOP QUALITY QB, but he is a quality QB who is going to give you a chance in the game. It was a smart move.
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Old 01-14-2006, 08:22 PM   #38
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I'm sorry, but this is a sad excuse for an offense. I tend to blame it on the conservative nature of the game-planning. What do you think?
I agree somewhat. This was the playoffs, the time when we unleash everything we got. Conservative isn't gonna win here. Unfortunately our season is over, but next year we need to be better. I for one think we should run more no huddle outside of two minutes left in the half. Look at some great teams that do it. The colts for instance, they went no huddle for an entire game. Look at where they are at now.
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Old 01-14-2006, 08:30 PM   #39
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Remember guys...that is why we got Jason Campbell. However, I think it was a great move to have Brunell starting for us this year. Believe me, you'll find that Campbell AND Ramsey benefited a great deal by watching a decent veteran QB run the offense. Sure, Brunell isn't a TOP QUALITY QB, but he is a quality QB who is going to give you a chance in the game. It was a smart move.
Agreed. The book on Campbell before the draft was that we was a terrific prospect who needed time to develop. I think working with Gibbs and his crew and learning from Brunell is a great situation for him. If he can add some of Brunell's knowledge to his physical skill, he has the potential to be our QB of the future.
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Old 01-14-2006, 08:44 PM   #40
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we have no choice, we don't have any offensive weapons aside from moss and cooley
we need to upgrade this on the offseason
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Old 01-14-2006, 09:00 PM   #41
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The offense has been the weak link in this team for 2 years now. The last two games were truly awful, from an offensive standpoint. Our "D" is a championship calibre defense and was the same last year. It's sad to see them play so well, game in and game out, only to be undone by an offense that sometimes shows up and many times does not.

Would love to see another competition at QB at training camp next summer, but my guess is that Gibbs will stick with his man. Brunell played well (even great) for spurts this season, but he has been awful these last few games. The O's poor play and total inability to even move the ball is why our season ended tonight. Bottom line is - Brunell will never take us to a championship.

We also need to upgrade our kicking game. A new punter is needed and John Hall just cannot kick off worth a d*** anymore. On a regular basis, our opponents were starting from the 30 yard line and even more, mostly due to his poor kickoffs. A good kicking game is crucial for the Skins to improve.

Having said all that, this was still a season to be proud of. I, for one, believed they were through when they were 5-6, but they fought back with a lot of guts. Makes you wonder how far we can go if we can only get a higher level of play from our QB?
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Old 01-14-2006, 10:23 PM   #42
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The offense has been the weak link in this team for 2 years now. The last two games were truly awful, from an offensive standpoint. Our "D" is a championship calibre defense and was the same last year. It's sad to see them play so well, game in and game out, only to be undone by an offense that sometimes shows up and many times does not.

Would love to see another competition at QB at training camp next summer, but my guess is that Gibbs will stick with his man. Brunell played well (even great) for spurts this season, but he has been awful these last few games. The O's poor play and total inability to even move the ball is why our season ended tonight. Bottom line is - Brunell will never take us to a championship.

We also need to upgrade our kicking game. A new punter is needed and John Hall just cannot kick off worth a d*** anymore. On a regular basis, our opponents were starting from the 30 yard line and even more, mostly due to his poor kickoffs. A good kicking game is crucial for the Skins to improve.

Having said all that, this was still a season to be proud of. I, for one, believed they were through when they were 5-6, but they fought back with a lot of guts. Makes you wonder how far we can go if we can only get a higher level of play from our QB?
Not to kiss your butt too much, but I love how much thought you put into your posts. They are always so well written.
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Old 01-14-2006, 10:51 PM   #43
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Ramseyfan, I think a big reason Gibbs wouldn't come out throwing in the first half is cuz our field position sucked. We started (on average) from our own 10-12 yd line on our first 6 possessions. In the rain, with a wet ball, you don't take chances when you're backed up like that.

Derrick Frost was huge today. I think Tupa's history.

Brunell has been a servicable QB, but with Portis banged up and Randy Thomas out, Brunell's play simply wasn't good enough to win. I think the O-line has been the problem the last 3 games. They didn't play as good as they were against St Louis, AZ, Dallas and NY.
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Old 01-14-2006, 10:52 PM   #44
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I'm sorry, but to get 3+ turnovers and lose is a disgrace. To get the kind of offensive performance we did in the first half is inexcusable. 3 first downs? 3 first downs? We weren't going against the Bucs, so we can't blame it on the defense we were playing.

Our defense limited one of the best offenses in the league to 20 points at their home. With the turnovers we should have been able to seal the deal.
SHUT UP!
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Old 01-14-2006, 10:58 PM   #45
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SHUT UP!
Apparently, some people cannot debate intelligently. Instead, they react with pure emotion and no logic. I should have figured that people would attack me personally. Given Wilbon and Kornheiser's articles, which also note the offense's poor performance, I guess we should burn them in effigy.

I understand the thread was ill-timed, but given the offense's performance I thought it would be ignoring the 500 lb. gorilla not to talk about the offense. Isn't this site supposed to discuss things? Perhaps I was wrong?
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