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Old 01-15-2006, 04:26 PM   #76
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Re: The Offense Was Too Conservative

Since people have pegged me as the "pessimist," I suggest you read some of my posts from earlier in the season when we weren't winning.

I note how people were overreacting to Loss
http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?t=9275 ((Merged Thread) Overreacting to a loss)

I defended Gibbs playcalling after the loss to the Chargers
http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread...5&page=3&pp=10 (Play Calling)

I told people not to give up on the team
http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?t=9273 (I'm Done Watching The Skins This Year)

I defended Gibbs W-L record
http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?t=9329 (Joe Gibbs is the man)

I defended the team, raising the strength of schedule
http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?t=9425 (Redskins' Strength of Schedule: We Are A Decent Team)

Before I get labelled as purely, an attention-seeking MF'er, please do your homework.
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Old 01-15-2006, 04:47 PM   #77
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Re: The Offense Was Too Conservative

We need another WR. Our passing offfense is really bad. Not these two games. but the last 12. THe passing offense is bad. We only get 91% of the yards the opposing defenses give up through the air on average. So if a team on average gave up 200 yards in the air we on average this year would get 182. We are a below average passing team. I want a dominant WR that can play at number 1 but is a number 2. I want a reggie wayne. I do not want reggie wayne but A reggie wayne. Someone that we can get or trade for that is proven or do some magic in the draft. I want a great number 2.
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Old 01-15-2006, 05:16 PM   #78
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Re: This Offense Is Too Conservative

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I agree that we were a bit conservative in the first half. If we'd thrown the ball more...

However, if the OL had been fully fit, if we had a legitimate #2 receiver to pull ofthe double teaming, if we had a fully fit and effective DL, if we had a fully fit secondary, if we had someone who could kickoff into the endzone, if we could pin opponents deep with punts, if we didn't miss crucial FG's... if all that had been true, we'd have won the SB this year.

Fact is if's won't get us anywhere. If we'd thrown the ball more in the first half, maybe we'd have covered the spread, but basically the if's caught up with us today and we just never REALLY looked like winning. Just about everyone said we'd run out of steam and had to play on emotion alone. Sooner or later it catches up with you. To be honest, even if we'd won this one, we'd almost certainly have lost the next one. We are out of energy. Those guys, including the coaches, left everything on the field and I salute them.

I won't have a bad word said about JG, especially on the play calling. Next season with a good offseason program and maybe some fresh linemen on both sides, we are going to be strong. What JG has done in 2 years is amazing to me, especially considering the mess that Turner and Spurrier left us in after so many great years under Gibbs' first reign.

Go Joe, Go Skins and Go Ramseyfan and get drunk. Skins played a great season and gave us more than we expected. Enjoy the memories and look forward to more of the same.
I think you hit it on the head. Everyone looked exausted.
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Old 01-15-2006, 05:41 PM   #79
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the offense went down right after randy thomas did. the line is the heart of the offense and they haven't been right sinse he went down.
Well they looked ok against the Giants. I think Brunell's knee came into play and when Brown had to come out and Raymer went in he looked horrible (in fairness he is a center). I do agree that the Thomas injury was important, but I don't think he was the main issue. I think field position played a huge part in yesterdays game. When Antonio Brown let punt after punt bounce at the 20 yard line and roll inside the 10 that really hurt.
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Old 01-15-2006, 10:29 PM   #80
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Well they looked ok against the Giants. I think Brunell's knee came into play and when Brown had to come out and Raymer went in he looked horrible (in fairness he is a center). I do agree that the Thomas injury was important, but I don't think he was the main issue. I think field position played a huge part in yesterdays game. When Antonio Brown let punt after punt bounce at the 20 yard line and roll inside the 10 that really hurt.
Yep. Gotta put in the fact that Clinton Portis was playing injured the past couple of weeks; there was no James Thrash (which is a good third down receiver); and Brunell never really looked the same after that knee injury against the Giants. I thought Ray Brown did a good job in place of Randy Thomas, but certainly Randy's absence played a factor with our protection.
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Old 01-15-2006, 10:45 PM   #81
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Re: The Offense Was Too Conservative

Just a couple of observations about the offense:
1) Brunell looked a little stiff and a little out of sync
2) O line protection was less the ideal, esp with Raymer in
3) Seahawks defense was quick to the ball after the catch-- they shut down the WR
screen pretty well-- Moss could not get a lot of yards after the catch like he did during the season.
4) CP looked banged up and kind of slow
5) We did miss RT on sweeps and pulling plays
6) With Patten back next year, we need only find a good #2 WR to fill in the offense and keep the dbs honest
7) Field position killed us for the first half
8) Not converting those 3 turnovers into at least 10 points really hurt us, esp in 4th quarter. Great teams convert the turnovers, and I think we lost momentum after that drive failed and Hall missed the kick.
9) JH does not seem the same-- maybe he is still hurt?
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