Will Arrington take a pay cut? (MERGED)

Luxorreb · 01-15-2006, 12:33 AM

Will Arrington take a pay cut and stay with this team, or fly to another team to get more cash?

As a fan would ya like to see him back next season?

Is it almost certain that he's actually gone in the next few months?

As you can tell I'd like to keep him around another year, but unless he takes a pay cut gonna be virtually impossible.
and then I'll miss #56.

BigSKINBauer · 01-15-2006, 12:41 AM

He said he wouldn't take a pay cut. he said he wouldn't even restructure.

Luxorreb · 01-15-2006, 12:45 AM

Well let's get rid of him then. Don't say ya wanna stay on the team, when you've been overpaid, WAY OVERPAID since you've been here. Really thought he'd be here for life, but then again I really thought he'd accomplished more in 5 years. Sounds like Smoot talk. I wanna stay on the Redskins forever, blah, blah, but I'll take a few more million and a purple sex boat, sure. Do we promote from within or take another chance on Michael Barrow?

ahhahahhahahhahahhaahhahahaha.

BigSKINBauer · 01-15-2006, 12:49 AM

Trade him for Randy Moss. Could it happen?? I'd even take joey porter. **** i don't even know that would happen. If we were gonna bench him this year we should have traded him earlier.

we need to find a team that needs a great Defenender and has a great offense. Who??? Who??? Raiders come to mind. KC even seattle, those Ds took huge strides this year same with the colts. ST. louis??? THe cards have a moderatly good defense but arrington could help. THey have amazing WRs and i would give them everything for one of them. Green bay?

FRPLG · 01-15-2006, 12:56 AM

It be a huge cap eat if we dumped him guys. I know we did it once but hopefully we learned to keep relationships better so we wouldn't have to again. If the main reason they want to rid themselves is his playing abilities then he probably stays because he is better than taking a huge cap hit AND signing someone else in his spot. If he is disgruntled ala Coles then they'll get rid of him I would think.

skinsfanthru&thru · 01-15-2006, 01:12 AM

if he is gone possible dream trade scenario for me would be this: how about an almost even cap swap of Tony Gonzalez for Lavar? that would provide them with a defensive playmaker they need and would provide us with a proven viable compliment too Moss and Cooley. I know it ain't gonna happen but I think a whole lot of people said the same thing about the possibility of a Bailey for Portis deal a couple years ago.

gibbs4life · 01-15-2006, 01:19 AM

it,s all up to lavar and i don,t see the light at the end of the tunnel.he just might take the money and run like the rest of them.lavar is way overpaid and the skins know it too.

i,m hoping he stays .

BigSKINBauer · 01-15-2006, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skinsfanthru&thru

if he is gone possible dream trade scenario for me would be this: how about an almost even cap swap of Tony Gonzalez for Lavar? that would provide them with a defensive playmaker they need and would provide us with a proven viable compliment too Moss and Cooley. I know it ain't gonna happen but I think a whole lot of people said the same thing about the possibility of a Bailey for Portis deal a couple years ago.

Lavar still has trade value in my eyes. His and Randy Moss's contracts are very very similiar. I mean it could be a straight swap. Randy didn't work for them. We may package Lavar and ramsey to our favorite trading team the Jets but i would want offense from them. I don't wanna trade anyone for anyone on Defense. I would love a dominant TE but i think that it wouldn't happen. We need to pick up a DE through FA or the draft. I still think lavar would be great at DE but it seems everyone thinks that bridge is burned

AnonEmouse · 01-15-2006, 06:53 AM

Funny, I was thinking of Lavar in a Raiders uniform this morning. Not sure R. Moss would be happy being the #2 reveiver though...

Hell, imagine if we got him and picked up Santana's brother? There's a gent's clothing company in the UK called Moss Bros. Has a kind of ring to it, dont you think?

It would confuse the hell out of the announcers and stats men anyway!

Luxorreb · 01-15-2006, 06:59 AM

Senorice Moss? What is his name? Is he in the draft? Any vid of him?

Schneed10 · 01-15-2006, 08:41 AM

I don't like Lavar Arrington, and I want him off the team.

I know a bunch of people will probably chastize me for that statement, but consider, what has he done for the Redskins since Gregg Williams has been here? Squat. Considering the reputation of Gregg Williams, it's highly doubtful that Williams is just wrong on Arrington. He thinks Arrington is a liability, he can't be relied upon to stay home when a play isn't coming his way. He's overly aggressive, tries to jump routes, and takes poor angles (probably because he has lost a step, but thinks he can still run at the speed he always used to). He's not an asset in pass coverage, can't stay with the better tight ends in the league, which means Taylor has to do it. For all the money we're paying Lavar, doesn't it say the world of him that Williams takes him out on 3rd downs?

Given Lavar's history, and given Gregg Williams' reputation for being such a good defensive mind, I'm going to side with Williams 100 times out of 100. I'd like to see Lavar gone, there are players we can get to perform better than him in the Gregg Williams system that would cost tons less.

Now, how feasible it is to get him off the team is an entirely different story. Trading or cutting him before June 1 would result in a $12 million cap hit in 2006. If he were on the team in 2006, he's count $12 million all the same. But we'd have to pay someone to replace him, so it would be a net hit to our cap. If we get rid of him after June 1 though, the cap hit will be more palatable. Should be interesting to see what happens.

FRPLG · 01-15-2006, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I don't like Lavar Arrington, and I want him off the team.

I know a bunch of people will probably chastize me for that statement, but consider, what has he done for the Redskins since Gregg Williams has been here? Squat. Considering the reputation of Gregg Williams, it's highly doubtful that Williams is just wrong on Arrington. He thinks Arrington is a liability, he can't be relied upon to stay home when a play isn't coming his way. He's overly aggressive, tries to jump routes, and takes poor angles (probably because he has lost a step, but thinks he can still run at the speed he always used to). He's not an asset in pass coverage, can't stay with the better tight ends in the league, which means Taylor has to do it. For all the money we're paying Lavar, doesn't it say the world of him that Williams takes him out on 3rd downs?

Given Lavar's history, and given Gregg Williams' reputation for being such a good defensive mind, I'm going to side with Williams 100 times out of 100. I'd like to see Lavar gone, there are players we can get to perform better than him in the Gregg Williams system that would cost tons less.

Now, how feasible it is to get him off the team is an entirely different story. Trading or cutting him before June 1 would result in a $12 million cap hit in 2006. If he were on the team in 2006, he's count $12 million all the same. But we'd have to pay someone to replace him, so it would be a net hit to our cap. If we get rid of him after June 1 though, the cap hit will be more palatable. Should be interesting to see what happens.

Sounds about right. I love Lavar but I think maybe he moves on if monetarily possible.

dmek25 · 01-15-2006, 09:53 AM

I Think Lavar Sits Down With Coach Gibbs In The Off Season And Takes A Pay Cut To Remain A Redskin.sounds Simple Enough

dmek25 · 01-15-2006, 09:54 AM

sorry about the capital lettering

skins052bgr8 · 01-15-2006, 10:18 AM

With so many coaching changes and front office changes in the NFL there should be some young coaches or just new coaches looking to clean house and build there teams in free agency. I would think there would be quite a bit of interest in Lavar and Ramsey if that is what our team decides they want to give up. I wish Lavar would take a pay cut and stay, but I agree with some others that is not going to happen especially with the Poston's as his agents who put the blame on the skins for their errors. They will either not agree to negotiate at all or make it nearly impossible even if talks open. Maybe Lavar pulls a Javon Walker and says adios to the Poston's like Walker did Rosenhaus.

01-15-2006, 12:33 AM	#1
Luxorreb ^21^ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 1,601	Will Arrington take a pay cut? (MERGED) Will Arrington take a pay cut and stay with this team, or fly to another team to get more cash? As a fan would ya like to see him back next season? Is it almost certain that he's actually gone in the next few months? As you can tell I'd like to keep him around another year, but unless he takes a pay cut gonna be virtually impossible. and then I'll miss #56. __________________ GO SKINS!!! ^21^

01-15-2006, 12:45 AM	#3
Luxorreb ^21^ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 1,601	Re: Will Arrington take a pay cut? Well let's get rid of him then. Don't say ya wanna stay on the team, when you've been overpaid, WAY OVERPAID since you've been here. Really thought he'd be here for life, but then again I really thought he'd accomplished more in 5 years. Sounds like Smoot talk. I wanna stay on the Redskins forever, blah, blah, but I'll take a few more million and a purple sex boat, sure. Do we promote from within or take another chance on Michael Barrow? ahhahahhahahhahahhaahhahahaha. __________________ GO SKINS!!! ^21^

01-15-2006, 12:49 AM	#4
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: College Park; where they chop cars Age: 25 Posts: 5,635	Re: Will Arrington take a pay cut? Trade him for Randy Moss. Could it happen?? I'd even take joey porter. ** i don't even know that would happen. If we were gonna bench him this year we should have traded him earlier. we need to find a team that needs a great Defenender and has a great offense. Who??? Who??? Raiders come to mind. KC even seattle, those Ds took huge strides this year same with the colts. ST. louis??? THe cards have a moderatly good defense but arrington could help. THey have amazing WRs and i would give them everything for one of them. Green bay? __________________ "For there is nothing half so glorious As to see our team victorious" --UMD Fight Song BSB-2010** Last edited by BigSKINBauer; 01-15-2006 at 01:03 AM.

01-15-2006, 01:12 AM	#6
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 32 Posts: 3,504	Re: Will Arrington take a pay cut? if he is gone possible dream trade scenario for me would be this: how about an almost even cap swap of Tony Gonzalez for Lavar? that would provide them with a defensive playmaker they need and would provide us with a proven viable compliment too Moss and Cooley. I know it ain't gonna happen but I think a whole lot of people said the same thing about the possibility of a Bailey for Portis deal a couple years ago.

01-15-2006, 01:19 AM	#7
gibbs4life Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: chocowinity nc Age: 43 Posts: 282	Re: Will Arrington take a pay cut? it,s all up to lavar and i don,t see the light at the end of the tunnel.he just might take the money and run like the rest of them.lavar is way overpaid and the skins know it too. i,m hoping he stays . __________________ with the sixth pick dan synder selects......daniel synder ...to find someone that will be a better fit for the front office..

01-15-2006, 12:41 AM	#2
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: College Park; where they chop cars Age: 25 Posts: 5,635	Re: Will Arrington take a pay cut? He said he wouldn't take a pay cut. he said he wouldn't even restructure. __________________ "For there is nothing half so glorious As to see our team victorious" --UMD Fight Song BSB-2010

01-15-2006, 12:56 AM	#5
FRPLG Franchise Player Join Date: May 2004 Age: 34 Posts: 9,232	Re: Will Arrington take a pay cut? It be a huge cap eat if we dumped him guys. I know we did it once but hopefully we learned to keep relationships better so we wouldn't have to again. If the main reason they want to rid themselves is his playing abilities then he probably stays because he is better than taking a huge cap hit AND signing someone else in his spot. If he is disgruntled ala Coles then they'll get rid of him I would think.

01-15-2006, 06:53 AM	#9
AnonEmouse Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 469	Re: Will Arrington take a pay cut? Funny, I was thinking of Lavar in a Raiders uniform this morning. Not sure R. Moss would be happy being the #2 reveiver though... Hell, imagine if we got him and picked up Santana's brother? There's a gent's clothing company in the UK called Moss Bros. Has a kind of ring to it, dont you think? It would confuse the hell out of the announcers and stats men anyway!

01-15-2006, 06:59 AM	#10
Luxorreb ^21^ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 1,601	Re: Will Arrington take a pay cut? Senorice Moss? What is his name? Is he in the draft? Any vid of him? __________________ GO SKINS!!! ^21^

01-15-2006, 08:41 AM	#11
Schneed10 RG Glee Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 33 Posts: 7,894	Re: Will Arrington take a pay cut? I don't like Lavar Arrington, and I want him off the team. I know a bunch of people will probably chastize me for that statement, but consider, what has he done for the Redskins since Gregg Williams has been here? Squat. Considering the reputation of Gregg Williams, it's highly doubtful that Williams is just wrong on Arrington. He thinks Arrington is a liability, he can't be relied upon to stay home when a play isn't coming his way. He's overly aggressive, tries to jump routes, and takes poor angles (probably because he has lost a step, but thinks he can still run at the speed he always used to). He's not an asset in pass coverage, can't stay with the better tight ends in the league, which means Taylor has to do it. For all the money we're paying Lavar, doesn't it say the world of him that Williams takes him out on 3rd downs? Given Lavar's history, and given Gregg Williams' reputation for being such a good defensive mind, I'm going to side with Williams 100 times out of 100. I'd like to see Lavar gone, there are players we can get to perform better than him in the Gregg Williams system that would cost tons less. Now, how feasible it is to get him off the team is an entirely different story. Trading or cutting him before June 1 would result in a $12 million cap hit in 2006. If he were on the team in 2006, he's count $12 million all the same. But we'd have to pay someone to replace him, so it would be a net hit to our cap. If we get rid of him after June 1 though, the cap hit will be more palatable. Should be interesting to see what happens.

01-15-2006, 09:53 AM	#13
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 51 Posts: 10,440	Re: Will Arrington take a pay cut? I Think Lavar Sits Down With Coach Gibbs In The Off Season And Takes A Pay Cut To Remain A Redskin.sounds Simple Enough

01-15-2006, 09:54 AM	#14
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 51 Posts: 10,440	Re: Will Arrington take a pay cut? sorry about the capital lettering

01-15-2006, 10:18 AM	#15
skins052bgr8 Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Richmond, Va. Age: 37 Posts: 288	Re: Will Arrington take a pay cut? With so many coaching changes and front office changes in the NFL there should be some young coaches or just new coaches looking to clean house and build there teams in free agency. I would think there would be quite a bit of interest in Lavar and Ramsey if that is what our team decides they want to give up. I wish Lavar would take a pay cut and stay, but I agree with some others that is not going to happen especially with the Poston's as his agents who put the blame on the skins for their errors. They will either not agree to negotiate at all or make it nearly impossible even if talks open. Maybe Lavar pulls a Javon Walker and says adios to the Poston's like Walker did Rosenhaus.

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