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Old 01-15-2006, 08:14 PM   #31
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Re: Those of you looking for some to blame.

I blame Dallas and all they stand for. If they had lost to the Panthers in Week 16, instead of getting that crappy call late in the game, we would have clinched a playoff spot. This would have allowed our guys to rest in week 17 instead of having to play a tough divisional game. The guys gave there all yesterday and you could see that they were tired. Portis, Brunell, Moss all were flat for long parts of the game.Damn you Dallas! also damn the NFL! having the bye in week 4? meant we had spent all our petrol tickets by the end of the year.

What hurts is the fact that Seattle did not play that well yesterday and we could have beaten them.
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Old 01-15-2006, 08:18 PM   #32
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Re: Those of you looking for some to blame.

It was a fun season!!! I blame no one but you have to ask yourself why there was no back up for R. Brown when he went down! Raymer what was that! Anyway we have some work to do!!!
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Old 01-15-2006, 08:58 PM   #33
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progress man progress. things are lookin up from what i,m seeing.
a few more pieces to the puzzle and we are off and running in 06.
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Old 01-15-2006, 09:45 PM   #34
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The only place where I lay blame is on ourselves as a team, I mean think of it this way, if we had beat the chargers and raiders at home and still won out we would have ben 12-4, giving us the #2 seed, a week bye, and only 1 game on the road for the playoffs. That is where I get a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach because we could have beaten those 2 teams. I think that we had a great year, it was a long time (6 years) to feel this way and I enjoyed every bit of it.

Many people are overlooking the fact that we are moving forward as a team. Yeah, we are missing a few pieces yet but they will come.

Also, Patten may or may not be the answer as our #2 WR, the thing is we dont know and will not know until next year. I say this because until teams started to double cover Moss, Moss was the go to guy. We really never had a chance to to have Moss, Patten, Cooley, Sellers, Portis, and even Royal in games where Gibbs knew that opposing D's were going to double cover Moss. I would like to think that later in the season Patten would have proven his worth, like when teams knew that #89 had to be double covered, or he would make them pay...

Another point, did anyone else notice that our offense lost a step after Thomas went down? I am not trying to say that Ray Brown did bad for us, he did extreamly well for being 43 and playing guard in the NFL, where most of the guys that he lined up against were still shiting in there diapers when he was in his prime. But lets face facts football is a violent sport and Brown is 43 playing at one of the sports most violent postitions. I commend Ray Brown for his effort, courage, and will and I am damn sure glad that he was on our team, like someone else mentioned Cory Raymer, what was that!!! Injuries are part of the game, but with a healthy Thomas I think we beat seattle.
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Old 01-16-2006, 03:23 AM   #35
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All year we have argued, debated and speculated on how this team could be better. No one and I mean no one saw the spectacular turnaround from 6-10 to 10-6 in just two seasons. For all doubters and haters of certain individual players on this team you should look in the mirror and ask yourself if sweeping Dallas and Philly, eliminating the Bucs and watching a team never give up with no 2#or 3# receivers is a team you can be embarrassed over? I can look in the mirror and know that this team showed the most resilience than any team in the NFL. 5-6 to 10-6 is beyond luck. It goes to the essence of Joe Gibbs and his ability to use what he has. Now just wait, and see the adjustments that will be made at the wideout position and defensive line. The puzzle is almost complete and I will continue to wear my Redskins coat and hat until the Superbowl is played just to let everybody know I am as proud of this team as the Seahawks fans are of theirs. Hail to the Redskins.
most here picked a 10-6 record on the preseason poll...
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Old 01-16-2006, 05:42 AM   #36
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IN GIBBS I TRUST!!!

Same thing I've said before, since and during his 2nd tenure.

Why would any doubt?

Anyone noticed the 'team' concept since he's been back?
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Old 01-16-2006, 08:36 AM   #38
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I was really disappointed sat. But I felt coach gibbs and our defense took us about as far as we could go this year. For what he has done via FA and trades it has been incrediable, almost a completely different team. He knows where the weak spots are(WR,QB,TE) He said it sat. trying to keep his core guys together is no. one priority. I believe he'll find a WR and open up QB position.The team is within striking dist. now. Two years ago we weren't even close
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Old 01-16-2006, 08:56 AM   #39
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Also, Patten may or may not be the answer as our #2 WR, the thing is we dont know and will not know until next year. I say this because until teams started to double cover Moss, Moss was the go to guy. We really never had a chance to to have Moss, Patten, Cooley, Sellers, Portis, and even Royal in games where Gibbs knew that opposing D's were going to double cover Moss. I would like to think that later in the season Patten would have proven his worth, like when teams knew that #89 had to be double covered, or he would make them pay...

Another point, did anyone else notice that our offense lost a step after Thomas went down? I am not trying to say that Ray Brown did bad for us, he did extreamly well for being 43 and playing guard in the NFL, where most of the guys that he lined up against were still shiting in there diapers when he was in his prime. But lets face facts football is a violent sport and Brown is 43 playing at one of the sports most violent postitions. I commend Ray Brown for his effort, courage, and will and I am damn sure glad that he was on our team, like someone else mentioned Cory Raymer, what was that!!! Injuries are part of the game, but with a healthy Thomas I think we beat seattle.
I agree with you on Patten. I also think it's a bit ridiculous how the big complaint about this offense is no "credible #2 receiving threat." We had the #2 WR in the entire NFL this season in #89. He was a measly 80 yards behind Steve Smith. I would say that clearly Santana Moss being double covered or "shut down" did not hurt his production in any way if he manages to be the #2 guy in the league. The problems run a bit deeper or at least more complex than simply having a real #2 guy. Sure it would help, but what do you expect is going to happen - add a #2 threat and everything is magically solved? Arizona with their two top ten WRs sure didn't do well this season. St. Louis didn't make the playoffs and they have to excellent WRs. Hell, the Colts with Harrison and Wayne (arguably the best tandem in the league right now) just got knocked out of the playoffs.

The "magic bullet" isn't a #2 WR. Hell, there IS no magic bullet.

Another good point with Ray Brown as well. I am definitely not one for singling one guy out to place all the blame, and Ray did an amazing job all things considered. But we did seem to lack that tough, "slobberknocker" kind of spark on offense after Randy Thomas went down. Our offense seemed to be really taking off up until that injury. Is that the SOLE reason we lost? Of course not. I would say it was a major contributing factor, and just goes to show how important the offensive line is.

I'm all for getting Patten back or signing a good #2 WR. I'm all for signing any quality player at any position. I think the BEST improvements can be made to the offensive line, whether it's a choice signing here and there, or just letting the guys get healthy and play as a unit longer.

It all starts with the offensive line. We saw yesterday that Peyton Manning looks like a little girl when his line is getting scorched. We see teams like the Chiefs and Broncos plug in virtually any running back or quarterback and have great success simply because their O-lines are fantastic.

It sure ain't a glory position playing down in the trenches, but it's where every offensive play starts and it's a hell of alot more important than signing some big name WR or TE or whatever other quick fix people are looking for.
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Old 01-16-2006, 09:27 AM   #40
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The only place where I lay blame is on ourselves as a team, I mean think of it this way, if we had beat the chargers and raiders at home and still won out we would have ben 12-4, giving us the #2 seed, a week bye, and only 1 game on the road for the playoffs. That is where I get a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach because we could have beaten those 2 teams.
If the 2 calls went our way in the fist Bucs game, we would have been the #2 seed. Those blown calls ended up costing us much more than just that game, it also cost us the division title.
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Old 01-16-2006, 11:22 AM   #41
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It's over....the skins had a FANTASTIC season and are very close to the prize. Adding a #2 and #3 wideout to take some heat off Cooley and Moss will be MAJOR upgrades to the offense.

I also want to give some mad props to Ade Jimoh. The guy brought the heat on ST Saturday and is a valuable player to this team! I personally don't like him as a CB, but he is becoming a very good team player and deserves some credit.

This team will be playing to win home field advantage next year....it was clear in Gibbs press conference that was one of the goals next season. Home field for the skins is HUGE and is where the true 12th man resides, not in Qwest Field, but in Landover, MD!!!

Hail, the promise land is VERY NEAR!!!!
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Old 01-16-2006, 12:33 PM   #42
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I have to give props to Ade Jimoh too. For all of the crap that we gave him over the past two season, he really showed that the coaches knew what they were doing when they decided to keep him.
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Old 01-16-2006, 01:33 PM   #43
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The lack of offense and depth on O finally caught up with this team. If they would have had even a little O they could have won. Seattle is a good team and they did what they needed to do to win.
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I blame my Son Elijah and may try my first human sacrifice to make things right with the Football Gods.

He picked up his Yellow Skins Towel from where it had helped us win for 6 straight games. Last night he wore it on his head breaking or winning streak.

Hang'ns too good for him!
No guys, I take responsibility. I wore a hat AND a jersey which I never do. I started without it but the lights in the ceiling were getting in my eyes and I wore it. I took it off after the Seahawks scored but by that time the damage had been done. Also, against my better judgment, I washed the jersey for the first time since the streak. I had dip stains and other stains I could not identify so I wanted a spiffy clean jersey for the Seattle game. I promise next year to respect the streak and know now that I DO have control over the teams destiny. So I say sorry to Joe Gibbs, his staff and the players and to you my fellow fans. I am truly sorry!!!!!
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No guys, I take responsibility. I wore a hat AND a jersey which I never do. I started without it but the lights in the ceiling were getting in my eyes and I wore it. I took it off after the Seahawks scored but by that time the damage had been done. Also, against my better judgment, I washed the jersey for the first time since the streak. I had dip stains and other stains I could not identify so I wanted a spiffy clean jersey for the Seattle game. I promise next year to respect the streak and know now that I DO have control over the teams destiny. So I say sorry to Joe Gibbs, his staff and the players and to you my fellow fans. I am truly sorry!!!!!
I blame my wife. I have had 18 of my friends over to watch the game every week during the streak. Against Seattle, I had to go to a wedding I didn't want to go, but my wife coridinated it, and it was her best friend. It's all her fault for making me go.
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