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Old 01-17-2006, 04:51 PM   #61
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Re: Any update on Campbell?

It's funny how it seemed like Brunell's numbers went down when Patten went out. Maybe it's just me, but ya think that could've had something to do with Brunell not having a complete PRO BOWL year? As beat up and banged as we were when we got into the playoffs, it's a wonder the offense could score anything. At least we can take great comfort in knowing that we scored more in the playoffs than the Giants! LOL!!!
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Old 01-17-2006, 04:54 PM   #62
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From what I've heard so far another WR will be a top priority this offseason.

I just can't see us standing pat with the guys we have after how obvious it was this year that Moss was our only viable target at WR.
To me it comes down to depth. This year at the very least showed beyond Patten and Moss we had no one. We need at least one more decent option there just in case we lose one of the top two. We can't roll the dice on two small guys who could get plunked at any time be done for a significant amount of time. A guy like Randle El, a name bantered around these parts, would fit perfect. Not a got to number one but definitely a guy we could count on to be a solid 2 or 3. Plus he bring some other stuff to the table. He is the best fit option in my mind. Some have done good work in convincing me on Robinson too for the right price. If he understands his roll as the possesion/red zone guy and can keep on the straight and narrow.
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Old 01-17-2006, 04:59 PM   #63
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Brunell was good this year...this thread is basically doing what the national media did with the Redksins offense. They had a couple below average performances in the playoffs and everyone forgot that the offense did improve alot this year. Brunell is more than adequate until Gibbs decides that Campbell is ready to take over.
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Old 01-17-2006, 07:55 PM   #64
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We were lucky to get into the playoffs, and because Brunell couldn't win any close games ALA, Denver, Kansas city, San Diego, we had to play every game on the road, without a week off to rest up, yet he had a great season, give me a break, he's a week link on a team that is outplaying him.
Wow. Is this for real?

Look if you want to make the case that Brunell is getting older, can't take us to the next level, this is probably the best we can expect from him, etc., I can live with that.

But let's be fair about this season. The guy ran the offense admirably, made key plays on his own, and pretty much had a pro bowl season. Brunell couldn't win any close games? What about the first Dallas game? What about the Seattle game? What about the first Philly game? And ironically the close games you mention that he lost might have been his best games of the year. Our offense rolled all over Denver and KC in their home parks, and Brunell threw for over 300 yards in each. It was turnovers and our defense that cost us those games, not Brunell.

You want to make the case for Ramsey or Campbell to start next year that's fine. But if you're talking about this season, let's be realistic and give Brunell his due.
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Old 01-18-2006, 04:58 AM   #65
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Realistically with our defense this team should have been 12-4 at the very least. If it's not Brunell then who? Is it Moss who set a team record for recieving yards? NO! Is it Portis who set a team record for rushing yards? No! Is it Cooley who I believe [but not positive] set a record for most catches by a TE in franchise history? NO!
Brunell didn't give up two long touchdown runs to Tatum Bell against Denver. Brunell didn't fumble the ball away on 3rd down against KC. Brunell didn't allow 3 TD passes by Chris Simms and 36 points to the Bucs. Brunell didn't knock Hall out of field goal range by blatantly holding a Chargers defenseman as time ran out.

But hey, if it's easy for you to pin the blame on Brunell, be my guest.
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Old 01-18-2006, 06:45 AM   #66
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From what I saw, it looked like Brunnel did fine whenever he was given free reign to chuck the ball (aka Dallas, KC, Denver and even the 4th quarter against Seattle). I think that Gibbs is still feeling out that line between being conservative enough to protect the ball but aggresive enough to win games.

I think Brunnel is good enough to take us all the way if he isn't hurt. At his age, this past year may have been a lucky year in that regard. Just think about the times Brunnel was asked to go out and win the game and what he was able to do as opposed to just thinking about what you would see out of him when we played to protect the ball because our defense was playing lights out.
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Old 01-18-2006, 08:19 AM   #67
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In the playoffs nobody got the job done, from the offensive line to our running game, but as always Brunell is the convenient scapegoat.

Yawn.
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Old 01-18-2006, 08:37 AM   #68
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I won't make Brunell the scapegoat but there HAD to be someone else open when he was throwing the ball. We have Royal, Sellers, Thrash and even Glass Jaw Jacobs that had to have SOME kind of separation when they were double and triple-teaming Moss. No doubt it was an all-around effort, but I refuse to believe that there weren't receivers available to throw to.
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I won't make Brunell the scapegoat but there HAD to be someone else open when he was throwing the ball. We have Royal, Sellers, Thrash and even Glass Jaw Jacobs that had to have SOME kind of separation when they were double and triple-teaming Moss. No doubt it was an all-around effort, but I refuse to believe that there weren't receivers available to throw to.
I can tell you from the nosebleeds at FedEx that there often was not anyone open besides Cooley or Moss. That's the problem. If you are a WR in this league and you get single coverage you need to be able to get open and get open good. None of our guys were able to. Actually Thrash was not bad before he got injured but he got injured shortly after Patten and once Thrash came back he wasn't nearly the same. I am telling you all our WRs just weren't good enough. It is not on Brunell that these guys didn't give him any options.
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Just look at what happened last week, one of the first plays of the game Brunell goes to Jacobs and hits the bum right in the hands and he drops it.

He stinks, let's face it. Patten was out half the season and TJ had a golden opportunity to shine and he didn't do jack.

As mediocre as Patten was, Jacobs was worse.

I still think Patten's production would have increased as the year went on, once we got over the infatuation with Moss and once teams started doubling him, Patten would have had the chance to step up.
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Old 01-18-2006, 08:57 AM   #71
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You would think Mark Brunell must have stole Offiss' woman as much as he putts him down all the time.
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In the playoffs nobody got the job done, from the offensive line to our running game, but as always Brunell is the convenient scapegoat.

Yawn.
I THINK LOSSING THOMAS WAS BIG!!!! Much more then many of us thought it would be!! In this draft and free agent time we need to up graded our lines backups!
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You would think Mark Brunell must have stole Offiss' woman as much as he putts him down all the time.

Either that or he has a huge crush on Ramsey.....
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Either that or he has a huge crush on Ramsey.....
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Old 01-18-2006, 10:48 AM   #75
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I THINK LOSSING THOMAS WAS BIG!!!! Much more then many of us thought it would be!! In this draft and free agent time we need to up graded our lines backups!

Great point RedskinsPete.

If you look back when Thomas was healthy our running game was great. Once he went down........Portis' numbers went down.
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