The Skins' biggest area of need?

sandtrapjack · 01-17-2006, 12:39 PM

First and foremost, get started renegotiating some contracts and get that cap down to a managable level. Only after that happens can they address the other areas.

Redskins need first off would have to be another WR threat. Someone has to come in and take at least SOME of the attention away from Santana Moss.

Second I would think maybe a little more depth on the defensive front and LB's. I really looks highly doubtful that Arrington will be back next season, and a little more depth should be a plus there.

SkinsLove24/7 · 01-17-2006, 12:59 PM

yea, we should let the Dallas fan direct this team in the offseason.

skinsfanthru&thru · 01-17-2006, 01:58 PM

it must be a wr or a special TE that can be split outside to compliment Moss and Cooley. I like Patten as our 3rd wr but we need a bigger frammed, somewhat speedy wr that we can send out slants and use as a redzone target. I'd also like to see the skins use moss a lot more like Carolina uses smith with quick hitches and more reverses as I see them as extremely similar players.

BigSKINBauer · 01-17-2006, 02:01 PM

I am a little surprised by the poll's outcome. I guess we do really all agree WR is the most important thing for us right now. I said WR by the way, nothing else gets close.

Redskins_P · 01-17-2006, 02:59 PM

Here's my list.......

1. No. 2 WR
2. Depth on the o-line
3. DE
4. Depth in the secondary (SS, CB)
5. Punter/Kicker

Riggo44 · 01-17-2006, 03:02 PM

WR. We need a bigger guy that can help in the redzone and on 3rd downs. Someone built kinda like Rod Gardner but that can catch.

dmek25 · 01-17-2006, 03:10 PM

the reason seattle beat us because hassleback got to stand in the pocket all day and make plays.we need a flat out pass rusher.i dont care if its a linebacker or an end.we need someone who can get to the qb without the skins blitzing.patten is a proven #2 receiver

FRPLG · 01-17-2006, 03:38 PM

I went WR but I also think SC is right about needing oline depth. I don't necessarily think Dockery needs replacing when a more pressing need would be depth in general. At least one guy who can play tackle, another who can play guard, one who can play both and a center. And if any of them look as clueless as Raymer then someone needs to get shot.

Redskins_P · 01-17-2006, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

And if any of them look as clueless as Raymer then someone needs to get shot.

I'm surprised no one started any threads about that.

Raymer was horrible!

#56fanatic · 01-17-2006, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Let me be clear here. I am not saying that adding help at WR is unimportant. That is VERY important. Taylor Jacobs is NOT ever going to be a top shelf WR in the NFL. I kinda felt that way at the beginning of last year but held out hope he could become an important contributor to thi team. He didn't; I'm now convinced he can't. James Thrash is a #3 WR and special teams player; that's it. Patten and Moss are solid but they are small and the Skins will need to have some depth there.

OK, does everyone understand that I agree that WR needs upgrading.

Now look at the OL. Sorry but Professor Dockery is only the starting guard on this team because the back-ups were 43-year-old Ray Brown and Cory Raymer. Both back-ups are way below par; imagine if Thomas had been injured in Week 4 and the Skins tried to go 3 months with Brown/Raymer as their tandem at right guard. Excuse me, but there would have been zero playoff games for the Skins. Dockery starts ahead of those two but that ain't sayin' much. He's been here long enough that he should be "really good" at least half the time out there. I'd say he's not tripping over his Johnson half the time out there but that's not quite the same as being "really good"...

So, even if you are 100% convinced that the Skins back-up at OT is the greatest thing since the mattress - I don't know because I didn't see much of any of them this year - that means the Skins need to replace 3 offensive linemen in the off-season. That's why I think this is their biggest need.

There is some validity to your statement, however buges and co felt dockery played awefully well this year, as did I. This is only his 3rd season, 1st playing w/ a healthy o-line. Olines take a few years to really start playing as a unit. I do think he will be a probowler for years to come. The backup at tackles are an unknown. Molinaro has impressed the staff enough to be on the roster, and actually filled in quite well when samuels was injured last season for a game or so. I feel the WR spot is in need of an upgrade, but as important over everything else I am just not sold. Patten historically has been a very productive 800 yard receiver. New offense, new staff, alot of thing contribute to a decline in numbers. I believe he will be a better receiver next year and provide some catches maybe up to 60 or 70. But, I dont think we want him taken a number of balls away from Cooley either. He is going to be a hell of a weapon once he get the over all knowledge of the schemes and NFL in general. I think we could get a decent WR in 3rd and maybe a gibbs guy in the 4th. DE is what I would draft, unless the Ramsey - Abraham thing works out. I do think we need upgrading in the secondary. Clark is a good run stopper, but his coverage skills need something to desire. a good coverage safety to compliment Taylor and the blitzing schemes of Williams could make them as dominant a unit in recent memory. Plus springs is old, as is walt harris and bowen. Jimoh is a big ? mark. How many of us felt comfortable with Jimoh going in the philly game and some dude off the practice squad? I would guess not many. I say if the FS from Notre Dame is there, we take him. He looks like a hell of an athlete and smart kid obviously.

Mattyk · 01-17-2006, 04:07 PM

I like our starting 5 up front including Dockery.

Depth is an issue... Raymer was a mess against Seattle.

FRPLG · 01-17-2006, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I like our starting 5 up front including Dockery.

Depth is an issue... Raymer was a mess against Seattle.

Yeah I'd love to have 5 guys competing for pro bowl starting slots but I think for money's sake it is best to settle for better than average at one or two spots. I don't concur with SC that the only reason Dockery was starting was because our depth was so bad that there was anyone decent enough to challenge him. He is a starter on just about any team outside of teams with pro bowlers at both guard spots.

Big C · 01-17-2006, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redskins_P

Here's my list.......

1. No. 2 WR
2. Depth on the o-line
3. DE
4. Depth in the secondary (SS, CB)
5. Punter/Kicker

thats pretty much how i see it as well. depth in the secondary, especially depth at cornerback is a must. that may be above the need for a DE

That Guy · 01-17-2006, 04:57 PM

I tend to agree
WR #2
CB #3
OL (2 quality G/T)
DL (DE #2, DT #3)
LB
K/P/KR/PR

i think we're also going to need at least one good (not great) LB too... holdman needs to move on and clemons is alright, but if lavar is gone (or even if he isn't) we have no legitimate depth there.

LongTimeSkinsFan · 01-17-2006, 04:58 PM

I voted for WR of the choices listed, but I'm in agreement with SC on the O-line. I think we could stand to upgrade at LG and we need to really improve our depth and quality of depth in case of injuries.

View Poll Results: What is the one position that the Redskins must absolutely upgrade this offseason?
Wide Receiver	111	79.86%
Defensive Line	13	9.35%
Secondary	5	3.60%
Special Teams	1	0.72%
Other	9	6.47%
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01-17-2006, 12:39 PM	#16
sandtrapjack The Starter Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,545	Re: The Skins' biggest area of need? First and foremost, get started renegotiating some contracts and get that cap down to a managable level. Only after that happens can they address the other areas. Redskins need first off would have to be another WR threat. Someone has to come in and take at least SOME of the attention away from Santana Moss. Second I would think maybe a little more depth on the defensive front and LB's. I really looks highly doubtful that Arrington will be back next season, and a little more depth should be a plus there.

01-17-2006, 12:59 PM	#17
SkinsLove24/7 Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bowie, MD Age: 26 Posts: 423	Re: The Skins' biggest area of need? yea, we should let the Dallas fan direct this team in the offseason.

01-17-2006, 01:58 PM	#18
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 32 Posts: 3,504	Re: The Skins' biggest area of need? it must be a wr or a special TE that can be split outside to compliment Moss and Cooley. I like Patten as our 3rd wr but we need a bigger frammed, somewhat speedy wr that we can send out slants and use as a redzone target. I'd also like to see the skins use moss a lot more like Carolina uses smith with quick hitches and more reverses as I see them as extremely similar players.

01-17-2006, 02:01 PM	#19
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: College Park; where they chop cars Age: 25 Posts: 5,635	Re: The Skins' biggest area of need? I am a little surprised by the poll's outcome. I guess we do really all agree WR is the most important thing for us right now. I said WR by the way, nothing else gets close. __________________ "For there is nothing half so glorious As to see our team victorious" --UMD Fight Song BSB-2010

01-17-2006, 02:59 PM	#20
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Sterling, VA Age: 34 Posts: 4,065	Re: The Skins' biggest area of need? Here's my list....... 1. No. 2 WR 2. Depth on the o-line 3. DE 4. Depth in the secondary (SS, CB) 5. Punter/Kicker

01-17-2006, 03:02 PM	#21
Riggo44 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Clemente CA Age: 39 Posts: 2,380	Re: The Skins' biggest area of need? WR. We need a bigger guy that can help in the redzone and on 3rd downs. Someone built kinda like Rod Gardner but that can catch. __________________ Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. Benjamin Franklin

01-17-2006, 03:10 PM	#22
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 51 Posts: 10,438	Re: The Skins' biggest area of need? the reason seattle beat us because hassleback got to stand in the pocket all day and make plays.we need a flat out pass rusher.i dont care if its a linebacker or an end.we need someone who can get to the qb without the skins blitzing.patten is a proven #2 receiver

01-17-2006, 03:38 PM	#23
FRPLG Franchise Player Join Date: May 2004 Age: 34 Posts: 9,232	Re: The Skins' biggest area of need? I went WR but I also think SC is right about needing oline depth. I don't necessarily think Dockery needs replacing when a more pressing need would be depth in general. At least one guy who can play tackle, another who can play guard, one who can play both and a center. And if any of them look as clueless as Raymer then someone needs to get shot.

01-17-2006, 04:07 PM	#26
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,673	Re: The Skins' biggest area of need? I like our starting 5 up front including Dockery. Depth is an issue... Raymer was a mess against Seattle. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

01-17-2006, 04:57 PM	#29
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 30 Posts: 15,620	Re: The Skins' biggest area of need? I tend to agree WR #2 CB #3 OL (2 quality G/T) DL (DE #2, DT #3) LB K/P/KR/PR i think we're also going to need at least one good (not great) LB too... holdman needs to move on and clemons is alright, but if lavar is gone (or even if he isn't) we have no legitimate depth there. __________________ Who says shameless self promotion is stupid? oh yeah, that was me... Click For Tunes!

01-17-2006, 04:58 PM	#30
LongTimeSkinsFan Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: LaVale MD Age: 50 Posts: 515	Re: The Skins' biggest area of need? I voted for WR of the choices listed, but I'm in agreement with SC on the O-line. I think we could stand to upgrade at LG and we need to really improve our depth and quality of depth in case of injuries. __________________ ...skins fan since 72 and still breathin'!

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