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Old 01-22-2006, 08:56 AM   #91
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Re: The perfect trade for Ramsey

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Why shouldn't we expect at least a second round pick for Ramsey?
What has he done to warrant a 2nd round pick?
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Old 01-22-2006, 10:59 AM   #92
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Re: The perfect trade for Ramsey

Reality is the Dolphins were stupid in giving up a 2nd rounder for the unproven Feeley.

I highly doubt we would be able to get a 2nd for Ramsey, if we can well that's great, but I'd be very happy with a 3rd.
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Old 01-22-2006, 11:12 AM   #93
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Re: The perfect trade for Ramsey

All of this debate is IMO the reason that we should have dealt him right after we got Brunell. I read a lot of articles from a lot different papers, Dallas in particular, that said that teams should consider giving up a first rounder for him. I thought then that he should have been traded and I feel even stronger now that his trade value has diminished a bit. We should have gotten a first rounder for him then and signed a veteran. Joe Gibbs knew then that he didn't want Pat to be the starter, I don't know why the Skins insisted on hanging on to him for so long and not letting him get a shot. If I were Ramsey, I wouldn't want to come back.
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Re: The perfect trade for Ramsey

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Reality is the Dolphins were stupid in giving up a 2nd rounder for the unproven Feeley.

I highly doubt we would be able to get a 2nd for Ramsey, if we can well that's great, but I'd be very happy with a 3rd.
Exactly.. The Dolphins got killed for that deal. I'd love for a team to give us a 2nd for him and would gladly be wrong, but I think a third rounder is the best we can hope for.
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All of this debate is IMO the reason that we should have dealt him right after we got Brunell. I read a lot of articles from a lot different papers, Dallas in particular, that said that teams should consider giving up a first rounder for him. I thought then that he should have been traded and I feel even stronger now that his trade value has diminished a bit. We should have gotten a first rounder for him then and signed a veteran. Joe Gibbs knew then that he didn't want Pat to be the starter, I don't know why the Skins insisted on hanging on to him for so long and not letting him get a shot. If I were Ramsey, I wouldn't want to come back.
That sounds good now but what if Brunell had been out for the year when he took that hit? Then Campbell would have been the starter for the rest of that game and the Philly game. I think that the team would have been better off with Ramsey as the #2 in that situation.
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Reality is the Dolphins were stupid in giving up a 2nd rounder for the unproven Feeley.

I highly doubt we would be able to get a 2nd for Ramsey, if we can well that's great, but I'd be very happy with a 3rd.

i'd have to agree with that.
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That sounds good now but what if Brunell had been out for the year when he took that hit? Then Campbell would have been the starter for the rest of that game and the Philly game. I think that the team would have been better off with Ramsey as the #2 in that situation.
Yeah, but if they had dealt Ramsey last season then they would have had a veteran backup to Brunell. I see what you're saying, but I think that if they had gotten rid of Ramsey then, there's no way Gibbs wouldn't have looked to replace him with a vet.
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I agree with you. Considering that Gibbs was able to use a 3rd round pick to get Chris Cooley, I'd love to have a 3rd rounder for Ramsey.

Cooley is one of the best bargains on our roster right now.
actually, i believe we traded a 2nd rounder for the third rounder we used on cooley. so he cost a 2 inthe end.
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Reality is the Dolphins were stupid in giving up a 2nd rounder for the unproven Feeley.

I highly doubt we would be able to get a 2nd for Ramsey, if we can well that's great, but I'd be very happy with a 3rd.
the dolphins got hosed. no doubt about that.

then again we traded schroeder to the raiders for jim lachey. ramsey might do well with their vertical offense. or whatever offense they put in with their next coach... he does have the kind of arm that al davis covets
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Old 01-22-2006, 10:33 PM   #101
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Charles Rodgers from Detroit. Young great talent with some risk on the Skins part.
i think rogers will get cut.

also, if you trade for rogers the first thing he will want is a new contract with a large bonus. better to let him hit free agency first. it will be cheaper.
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Old 01-22-2006, 10:34 PM   #102
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I believe Gibbs is going to target another WR, the question is who?
i agree gibbs is looking for another receiver but i think it will come via free agency
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Old 01-22-2006, 10:36 PM   #103
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Why shouldn't we expect at least a second round pick for Ramsey? While I agree with the switch to Brunnel, I don't think it was because Ramsey could not win games, I think it was because he didn't fit the Gibbs style offense and wasn't mobile enough. The guy is valuable and can start for a number of teams in the NFL (Miami, New Orleans, Jets...). I would bet that if Mike Martz landed a job and needed a QB with a rifle he might be interested.
i do not think we can expect a 2nd rounder for ramsey when all we were offered (supposedly) for him last year is a 6.... he has not done much to justify such a leap. best we can hope for is a conditional 3 based upon playing time.
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Old 01-22-2006, 10:37 PM   #104
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I am wondering if we go after Moulds, williams obviously has a connection with him from his time in buffalo, good or bad I don't know, he is a heck of a WR, whether he has dropped off or not talent wise I don't know, he really hasen't had anyone to get him the ball the last few years.

moulds would be ideal IMHO... but buffalo has to cut him first
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Old 01-22-2006, 10:39 PM   #105
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moulds is on the older side.i like to see the skins take a chance on mike williams of the lions,but dont know if that trade for ramsey could work.good hands and could be a possesion receiver in this league
do you really think detroit will part with a first rounder after just 1 year? with the same GM in place? they would pillory millen for doing that.
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