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Old 01-22-2006, 10:03 PM   #16
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Re: Expectations for a #2 guy

Our 2# receiver should contribute more yards and TD's than Cooley which is asking a lot, but that's why he gets paid the big buck. If the Steelers have to lose the Superbowl and release Antwaan Randle-El, I'm pulling for the Seahawks. He would fit perfectly in our offense with a former AFC coordinator.
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Old 01-23-2006, 08:51 AM   #17
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Re: Expectations for a #2 guy

KR or Kevin Curtis would be the top choicess for me for price/performance still... 700yards would be nice. 400-500 is really pretty subpar for a #2.
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Old 01-23-2006, 09:12 AM   #18
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Re: Expectations for a #2 guy

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Why? The question in itself is assinine.
Then why post at all?

Kinda ironic that you, of all people, (mis)spelled asinine w/ 2 S's.
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Old 01-23-2006, 09:28 AM   #19
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Re: Expectations for a #2 guy

Isn't alot of what we talk about dealing with hypotheticals??

I don't see where this thread is any different than any other ones we've got going on the forum.
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Old 01-23-2006, 09:39 AM   #20
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Re: Expectations for a #2 guy

A solid 2 will catch 50+ balls and have about 700-800 yards. I think 6 TDs would be about right too. More importantly than his numbers would be his skill level in general. It needs to be someone who commands a safety on a regular basis to cover adequately. If he cannot create space for himself in one on one coverage then don't even bother playing him. Cooley is a great option but he doesn't require safety help consistently. He runs shorter routes out of the back field generally and is covered by an LB. That leaves one on one at the WR2 and Moss doubled or even tripled with two safeties(this past year). This is unacceptable. The mighty Steve Smith was bottled up exactly the same way against Seattle because Carolina had no viable options anywhere else. We need someone who scares defenses out of constant doubles and triples on Moss. We need someone who can make them pick a poison. I think Patten can do it but I still would like to get another guy just so when there is any injury the is still 2 viable options at the WR position.
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Old 01-23-2006, 09:52 AM   #21
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Re: Expectations for a #2 guy

I don't care how many yards or TDs he has - I care about number of catches, location of catches, and number of first downs. We have the offensive threats to score - Moss, Portis, Cooley, Sellers. What we need is a guy who can run crisp routes to spread the defense to open up other players, go across the middle, and move the chains to extend drives.
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Old 01-23-2006, 09:59 AM   #22
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Re: Expectations for a #2 guy

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Really? Asking a question about the production of a WR we don't even have yet, who is going to be catching passes from who we are not sure yet, with a brand new O-coordiantor who is not familar with our personel, let alone personel we don't even have yet, is not reaching just a tad?
C'mon man we talk about these kind of scenarios all the time.

Lighten up. It's the offseason.
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Old 01-23-2006, 10:02 AM   #23
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Re: Expectations for a #2 guy

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Really? Asking a question about the production of a WR we don't even have yet, who is going to be catching passes from who we are not sure yet, with a brand new O-coordiantor who is not familar with our personel, let alone personel we don't even have yet, is not reaching just a tad?
This is a Redskins discussion site and it is the off season. Just about everything we discuss is going to be hypothetical and conjecture. Should we just shut down the site during the off season since there is nothing concrete to talk about? Hell just about everything we talk about during the season is conjecture. In the words of Riggo "Chillout offiss baby!"

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Old 01-23-2006, 11:28 AM   #24
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Re: Expectations for a #2 guy

For me, it all depends on what kind of yardage the other guys are getting (on the ground and in the air). If Santana and Portis have 1,400 yard seasons, I'd expect the #2 not to have more than 600 yards. If Santana and Portis' number drop, I'd expect the #2's numbers to jump.
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Old 01-23-2006, 11:31 AM   #25
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Re: Expectations for a #2 guy

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Isn't alot of what we talk about dealing with hypotheticals??

I don't see where this thread is any different than any other ones we've got going on the forum.
some people seem to be able to easily discuss hypotheticals when Ramsey is involved , so why not possible future players right Matty?
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Old 01-23-2006, 11:34 AM   #26
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Re: Expectations for a #2 guy

I think offiss has thrown in the towel. So, in the interests of peace , let's get back to discussing the thread topic.
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some people seem to be able to easily discuss hypotheticals when Ramsey is involved , so why not possible future players right Matty?
I was thinking the same thing, but in the interest of not letting another thread get hijacked I was willing to let it slide, but since you mentioned it, yes I agree.

Now let's get back to speculating about our new #2 WR!
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Old 01-23-2006, 12:08 PM   #28
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Re: Expectations for a #2 guy

I don't think that we should settle for our TE being our number 2. He is our number 1 TE, and we still need more threats beyond that illusive gold line. That being said, I feel that the prototypical 2nd wideout should above all else have excellent route running skills. That way, once Mark/Patty/Jason have exhausted their options in the play, and are looking at the 3rd progression, they can anticipate where he will be. (by third progression, i mean after moss, then cooley)

It would also be fun to have someone with the experience to come back for the ball when Mark/Pat/J is in trouble. That takes smarts, and normally a big price tag.

So I would settle for Coles back as a number 2. hhaah!
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Old 01-23-2006, 12:10 PM   #29
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Re: Expectations for a #2 guy

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So I would settle for Coles back as a number 2. hhaah!
Hahahahaha!!! Yeah don't stomp your toe...I mean, don't hold your breath on that one! LOL!!!
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Old 01-23-2006, 12:41 PM   #30
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Re: Expectations for a #2 guy

People, people. We are forgetting that David Patten is on our roster. He was on IR half the season. If he was able to play, he would have taken the pressure off Moss late in the season. I think we do need another receiver, dont get me wrong. But I think we are not looking at all of our options.

We have a #2 in Patten. Us being greedy(having Gibbs allows you to do that) we want another #2 so we will be unstoppable!!!
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