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Old 01-31-2006, 01:35 PM   #61
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Re: Randle El is the receiver we need to pursue (#2 WR discussion - Merged)

wayne was franchised so he is out of the question
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Old 01-31-2006, 01:52 PM   #62
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I just dont see it as a priority to go and spend money on a big name guy. We have other needs that need to be addressed and spending big money on one guy just doesn't seem to fit. We need depth at o-line and d-line. We need secondary depth, corner and safety. Maybe some depth at TE, although I believe Cooley will play alot more w/ suanders calling the plays. We are going to have to sign a QB also because Ramsey is not going to be here. I would much rather sign quality players at those positions, than sign one big name guy and a bunch of stop gaps or roster fillers. I think the Redskins are spending the money where they need to, offensive coaching. Patten has been, typically through his career, a productive #2 guy. I believe with saunders opening things up and another year under his belt, Patten will be productive. You can give up on a guy because of 1 bad year(Brunell?) Also we have draft picks, plus what ever we get for Ramsey that could be used on a WR that could be productive as a #3 or if we are lucky #2. Plus I believe Cooley will be alot more involved, much like Gonzales was in KC, he would have about 100 catches each year. It sounds nice to say Reggie Wayne, Randel el, Robinson is a Redskin, but I just think the quality of players signed through out the Roster is more important than the superstar lable of one player.
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Old 01-31-2006, 01:56 PM   #63
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I just dont see it as a priority to go and spend money on a big name guy. We have other needs that need to be addressed and spending big money on one guy just doesn't seem to fit. We need depth at o-line and d-line. We need secondary depth, corner and safety. Maybe some depth at TE, although I believe Cooley will play alot more w/ suanders calling the plays. We are going to have to sign a QB also because Ramsey is not going to be here. I would much rather sign quality players at those positions, than sign one big name guy and a bunch of stop gaps or roster fillers. I think the Redskins are spending the money where they need to, offensive coaching. Patten has been, typically through his career, a productive #2 guy. I believe with saunders opening things up and another year under his belt, Patten will be productive. You can give up on a guy because of 1 bad year(Brunell?) Also we have draft picks, plus what ever we get for Ramsey that could be used on a WR that could be productive as a #3 or if we are lucky #2. Plus I believe Cooley will be alot more involved, much like Gonzales was in KC, he would have about 100 catches each year. It sounds nice to say Reggie Wayne, Randel el, Robinson is a Redskin, but I just think the quality of players signed through out the Roster is more important than the superstar lable of one player.
and what happens when patten or moss get hurt? we pack it in and wait for next year?

guys like curtis or robinson won't be big money like wayne or moulds or even r-el (who's overhyped).
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Old 01-31-2006, 02:18 PM   #64
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and what happens when patten or moss get hurt? we pack it in and wait for next year?

guys like curtis or robinson won't be big money like wayne or moulds or even r-el (who's overhyped).
I didn't say get scrubs, I said quality backups or #3 or #4s. I cant see Robinson signing for anything less. I was a career year for him, so he's looking to get paid. Curtis, not sure. Injuries are part of the game, hopefully they dont happen, but you cant stack your roster with a bunch of high priced players at one position. Other parts of the roster will pay the price. I'd say we are in the same position if Portis got hurt, Betts may look OK for a game or two, but he hasn't been healthy a whole season yet, and is unproven as a #1 RB. Same thing with the O-line, D-line. You saw what happened when Thomas went down last year. That really hurt us in seattle, we couldn't run worth crap. I am just saying to sign guys that dont drain the wallet. If they have workable demands for contracts, why not, but if they are asking for alot of cash, I dont see us signing them.
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Koren Robinson had 22 catches for 347 yards and 1 TD. Hardly a career year, I think he's still damaged goods to the point where he's not going to be able to name his own price and command #1 WR type money.
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Koren Robinson had 22 catches for 347 yards and 1 TD. Hardly a career year, I think he's still damaged goods to the point where he's not going to be able to name his own price and command #1 WR type money.
I must be thinking of someone else. that is hardly a great year!!
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Old 01-31-2006, 05:59 PM   #67
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i think moulds would be a perfect fit...he has size and speed, with him we have santana, moulds and patton...what a tough match-up for any secondary. i like randel-el....but i think he will stay in pittsburgh.
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I must be thinking of someone else. that is hardly a great year!!
hence my confusion at your insistance of high money... he's still super cheap. He DID have a great year returning kicks (PB returner), but KR/PR get paid around vet min. That's why he's a good guy to get, if he's right now, he's got the skills of a #2 or low tier #1 and can return and wants to be here and wont cost too much. You just have to hope he can stay straight.
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Old 01-31-2006, 11:40 PM   #69
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I think people say he had a great year because, considering his past and the type of off-field problems the Vikings had this year, he was Mr. Reliable. He didn't wow you with his numbers but he showed up, played hard, and caused no problems.
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Bears are apparently interested in Randle-El, per the Chicago Tribune.

"Talk around this year's Senior Bowl practice week is that the Bears' first priority will be Pittsburgh wide receiver and premier returner Antwaan Randle El when free agency begins in March. Randle El, from Thornton High School in Harvey by way of Indiana University, has averaged 40 catches for 12.4 yards and 42 punt returns for 9.5 yards during his four seasons with the Steelers.

Randle El also would give the Bears a third-string quarterback on game days without using the active roster spot. His play in the Steelers' playoff run will drive up the price, but the Bears are in excellent salary-cap shape and have not shied from making decisive, big-money moves the last three off-seasons."


let the bears have him. they already have a possession receiver in muhammed. randle el is a younger version of patten. he is a fine player but he is smallish and we need size at at least 1 wideout.
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Old 01-31-2006, 11:57 PM   #71
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yeah i say so but the steelers are gonna give him a deal because he is good at throwing at catching
maybe. the steelers let plaxico walk. they also have wilson to pair with ward so they can afford to draft a player to fine the role. steelers do not sually pay up big bucks for free agents
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Old 01-31-2006, 11:59 PM   #72
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too much hype for a 600yd #2. there's better out there for less.
an excellent point. he could be another peerless price who benefitted from playing beside a very solid player-- or alvin harper..
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wayne was franchised so he is out of the question
if that is true, then the skins will benefit because the colts will be dumping other players right and left. guys like brock and freeney may be turned loose because of their cap situation.
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and what happens when patten or moss get hurt? we pack it in and wait for next year?

guys like curtis or robinson won't be big money like wayne or moulds or even r-el (who's overhyped).
i like curtis but he is smallish and also a restricted free agent. he will cost a pick. robinson won't. moulds won't either if he is released. we could get a got solid year out of mccardell as well. there are gonna be good options out there.
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Old 02-01-2006, 12:06 AM   #75
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Koren Robinson had 22 catches for 347 yards and 1 TD. Hardly a career year, I think he's still damaged goods to the point where he's not going to be able to name his own price and command #1 WR type money.
you are correct. teams will not be lining up to pay robinson first tier money.
if he expects that he will sit for a long time. there will have to be safeguards for any team signing him because of the possibility of relapse.. still he has a fine upside and is young. he needs to go to the right team for certain. given how tight the skins are becoming he will need to pass muster from the vets. if he does, look for the skins to make a strong push for him
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