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Old 01-27-2006, 01:12 AM   #16
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Re: Who do you think are the 15 Core Players?

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Perhaps it's due to people calling his name in the past only to teas him about wanting an autograph. I mean, how many people actually care for the autograph of a long snapper? This brings up the question of whether a long snapper should ever be eligible for hall of fame much less get in?
I understand where you are coming from about a long snapper being in the hall of Fame, but remember what happened to us back in 1999 in our divisonal playoff game against Tampa? His job is very critilcal to the game, especially when the game is on the line. I think that someday someone will see how important special teams are, and how on punt and field goals it all starts with the man snapping the ball.
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Old 01-27-2006, 01:34 AM   #17
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Perhaps it's due to people calling his name in the past only to teas him about wanting an autograph.
Well, that is exactly what it is but i got my jersey signed by as many of the 2005 skins as i could and he isn't on it so i would like his autograph.
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Old 01-27-2006, 02:30 AM   #18
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Re: Who do you think are the 15 Core Players?

Samuels is a good player, but when I think core players, I think leader types. Those that others rally around. Samuels strikes me as too quiet to be in that role.

I think my biggest omission was Thrash.

PS -- We should get a group together with a ton of Ethan Albright jerseys and head to training camp.
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Old 01-27-2006, 03:01 AM   #19
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I'd have to go with:

Def:
Taylor
Springs
Wahington
Griffith
Salava'a
Daniels
Rogers

OFF:
Jansen
Thomas
Samuels
Cooley
Portis
Moss

SP:
Albright
Rock
Thrash

Sorry got 16 and i can't spell....I would love to put Lavar, but i have to see what happens this offseason with him. I think Gibbs loves Gibbs, but when we say CORE, i believe that means people that will be here for the next 4 years (hopefully)..I think the only ones on my list that my not be here for that long are Rock,Thrash and Daniels
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Old 01-27-2006, 08:51 AM   #20
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Samuels is a good player, but when I think core players, I think leader types. Those that others rally around. Samuels strikes me as too quiet to be in that role.

I think my biggest omission was Thrash.

PS -- We should get a group together with a ton of Ethan Albright jerseys and head to training camp.
Samuels spoke out at halftime in the Cardinals game... I don't think he's as quiet as he may seem.

He'd qualify as a core guy to me simply because of how quickly the team sought to lock him up long-term. Him leaving was really never an option.
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Old 01-27-2006, 09:56 AM   #21
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Re: Who do you think are the 15 Core Players?

Defense:

Griffen
Salevea
Daniels
Springs
Washington
Marshall
Rogers
Taylor

Offense

Portis
Moss
Cooley
Thomas
Brunell
Jansen
Samuels
Sellers

Could possibly change (be added to) in the up and coming season, but those are my 2005 core Redskins. Opps! Just noticed you wanted 15....ah well...you got 16!
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Old 01-27-2006, 10:46 AM   #22
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Re: Who do you think are the 15 Core Players?

Def:
Taylor
Springs
Wahington
Griffith
Salava'a
Daniels
Rogers
Marshall

OFF:
Jansen
Thomas
Samuels
Cooley
Portis
Moss
Sellers

though i'm not much in the way of a samuels fan, the team seems to like him.
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Old 01-27-2006, 01:04 PM   #23
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Re: Who do you think are the 15 Core Players?

i think the phrase core players is exactly that,a phrase.it has nothing to do with star power,its doing things the RIGHT WAY(the redskin way)i love sean taylor to death but i know all the b.s. surrounding him is driving coach gibbs nuts.he would prefer someone like thrash who comes to work everyday,gives 110% when here,then quitely goes home and always says the right thing.this may sound funny but p ramsey may be one
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Old 01-27-2006, 01:46 PM   #24
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Re: Who do you think are the 15 Core Players?

How many people at this time last year thought we'd be talking about core Redskins and not really mentioning Lavar? Not many I'm sure.
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Old 01-27-2006, 01:50 PM   #25
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Re: Who do you think are the 15 Core Players?

core players

Rock - leads by example

Thrash - see above

Portis - superstar that gets dirty

Jansen - been here the longest

M. Washington - plays to hard not to be

Brunell - he is a leader
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Old 01-27-2006, 05:19 PM   #26
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Re: Who do you think are the 15 Core Players?

You probably guessed how I determine my core - by their contracts!

Here's my list of core players and their cap numbers for the next 3 years (in 000s):

Player.........2006.....2007.....2008

Samuels........$10,218..$8,950...$8,000
Jansen.........$5,603...$5,853...$6,353
Springs........$5,558...$6,583...$6,708
Portis.........$5,476...$6,431...$7,494
Washington.....$5,167...$5,167...$5,592
Thomas.........$4,912...$5,412...$5,912
Griffin........$4,883...$5,583...$5,583
Taylor.........$4,690...$1,673...$1,913
Moss...........$4,260...$5,200...$5,600
Rabach.........$3,145...$3,750...$3,750
Patten.........$2,447...$3,013...$3,262
Rogers.........$2,297...$2,757...$2,895
Campbell.......$1,341...$1,603...$1,666

TOTAL (approx).$60,000..$62,000..$64,000

Other notables:

Arrington - I did not include him in my core. I just don't feel like he's in the team's long-term plans. Everyone says we won't save much this year by cutting him, but it would take a financial load off our books in the future.

Betts - very cheap but only signed thru 2006. I think we need to get him an extension soon. We need someone to take the load off Portis. Of course if the coaches think Rock or Nemo could be that guy then maybe they'll let Betts walk.

Brunell - he isn't cheap but with more restructures we can probably keep him around for a few more years.

Cooooooooley - signed cheap but only thru 2007. I expect him to sign an extension sometime this season or maybe in the preseason.

Salavea - signed cheap but only thru 2007. I feel he is part of our core. I'd expect him to sign an extension in the future assuming his strong play continues.

Marshall - see Salavea.

Sellers - see Salavea.

Patten - He was borderline IMO but I included him above anyways. I have a feeling he might still be our #2 this year, and his contract is set up to keep him here for a while if he can be productive.

Dockery - He's only signed thru 2006. I figure we'll have to make a long-term decision on him soon. Either resign him to keep our Oline together, or bring in a replacement to take his place.

Thrash - I consider Thrash a core Skin but it's hard to say how long he'll be here. He's signed thru 2007 but isn't that cheap. Maybe a restucture here at some point to keep him in the picture.

Daniels - signed thru 2008 but starting to get old and expensive. I can see him staying for another year or two but not sure if he'll be here beyond that.

Wynn - signed thru 2007, similar scenario to Daniels.

Draft picks - not sure what the future holds for draft picks like Nemo, McCune, etc. I expect 2006 to be a major factor in determining their future with the team.
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Old 01-27-2006, 06:06 PM   #27
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Cooooooooley - signed cheap but only thru 2007. I expect him to sign an extension sometime this season or maybe in the preseason.
Cooley worries me from a loyalty standpoint. I thought he was a nice Mormon boy but he turns out to be Riggins Jr. If he flakes out on us because of some girl or because he wants to go find himself, we're in big trouble.
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Old 01-27-2006, 06:50 PM   #28
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Cooley worries me from a loyalty standpoint. I thought he was a nice Mormon boy but he turns out to be Riggins Jr. If he flakes out on us because of some girl or because he wants to go find himself, we're in big trouble.
I think he'll be fine, turns out he's still with that cheerleader, and probably wasn't screwing the entire squad as was originally reported.
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I don't think betts is in the future plans because of injury problems...
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