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Old 01-30-2006, 03:49 PM   #16
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Re: Theismann Vs. Peter King...right now on ESPN Radio

Dumb ass! I will support T.O to be in the Hall of Fame, but monk is not deserving. Doesn't the hall represent the best of the best in the NFL and you want those involved to be respected and instill pride in the game. T.O you have got to be shittin me, true the guy can ball but damn he single handedly has made two organizations he has been associated with look like shit and a complete embarrassment. He's got my vote that is what we are looking for and want to be the example that players have to go off of to get into the Hall of Fame beside greats like Joe Gibbs. Very fitting don't you think.
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Old 01-30-2006, 04:23 PM   #17
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This guy is such a hypocrite, he's not voting for Monk because no one outside of DC cares? Yet he pushes for Harry Carson? As if anyone outside of NY can remember the guys name.

It's funny how he backs Curtis martin and say's that he hopes that his anonimity doesn't hurt him on the ballot, sounds a lot like Monk doesn't it.

Russ Grimm over Monk? We all love Russ but lets be real. Monk held all time NFL records, most catches in a season, most consecutive games with a catch, and the all time leader with receptions, ALL TIME!!!!!!

Obviously there is something else there, Monk should have been a first ballot no brainer, and that's why I don't put a lot of stock in popularity contests, such as the pro-bowl and the hall of fame, are they truly about talent? Or just a matter of being one of the boy's?

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Support T.O.?

Please, what has he done at this point in his career to be even mentioned in a discussion regarding the Hall??
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Old 01-30-2006, 05:02 PM   #19
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I will support T.O to be in the Hall of Fame, but monk is not deserving.

I missed something in the translation.

I thought the thread was about PK not voting for Art Monk, and the D. Patrick show. I totally missed how TO quietly crept in.

And you and I disagree sir. Art Monk deserves to be in the HOF, hands down!

We don't even need a poll for this question! His statistics do not lie!

The HailRedskins.com forum has many HOF voters with their e-mail addresses, which is now shown below. So, you might want to flood their in-boxes.


Arizona Kent Somers, Arizona Republic kent.somers@arizonarepublic.com
Atlanta Furman Bisher, The Atlanta Journal fbisher@ajc.com
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Buffalo Mark Gaughan, Buffalo News mgaughan@buffnews.com
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Cleveland Tony Grossi, Cleveland Plain Dealer http://www.cleveland.com/weblogs/hey...il_author.html
Dallas Rick Gosselin, Dallas Morning News* rgosselin@dallasnews.com
Denver Jeff Legwold, Rocky Mountain News legwoldj@rockymountainnews.com
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New England Ron Borges, Boston Globe Unknown
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Tedy Bruschi a HOFer? No way! And since when are players voted in to represent a "team?"
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I could understadn if this guy was simply a hard ass about who to vote in. But he seems like a two bit whore who'll let anyone have a go. Curtis Martin? Harry Carson? Tedy Bruschi? He actually thinks these people deserve to be in the hall! And not Monk? That makes no sense whatsoever. Clearly he is both misguided and must have a problem with Monk. What a sad sack of poo this guy is.
I too know NOT ONE PERSON who thinks that Monk not only should be in the hall but that he is also being royally shafted not having been a first balloter. This seriously one of the most perplexing things in sports today to me. How anyone can think he doesn't deserve to be in is BEYOND beyond me.
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I could understadn if this guy was simply a hard ass about who to vote in. But he seems like a two bit whore who'll let anyone have a go. Curtis Martin? Harry Carson? Tedy Bruschi? He actually thinks these people deserve to be in the hall! And not Monk? That makes no sense whatsoever. Clearly he is both misguided and must have a problem with Monk. What a sad sack of poo this guy is.
I too know NOT ONE PERSON who thinks that Monk not only should be in the hall but that he is also being royally shafted not having been a first balloter. This seriously one of the most perplexing things in sports today to me. How anyone can think he doesn't deserve to be in is BEYOND beyond me.

Curtis Martin is a HOFer.
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Curtis Martin is a HOFer.
I'd have to disagree on that one. Martin has been solid, dependable, and a workhorse, but to say that his career warrants a guaranteed Hall of Fame spot is a little much, in my opinion.

Some guys are great football players who are on the cusp of the Hall, but fall just short. Curtis Martin is exactly that type of player to me.
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Old 01-30-2006, 06:26 PM   #24
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I'd have to disagree on that one. Martin has been solid, dependable, and a workhorse, but to say that his career warrants a guaranteed Hall of Fame spot is a little much, in my opinion.

Some guys are great football players who are on the cusp of the Hall, but fall just short. Curtis Martin is exactly that type of player to me.
What bout Bettis?
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Old 01-30-2006, 07:47 PM   #25
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Curtis Martin and Art monk same people they both fly under the radar. Stats dont lie, but stupid ass writers who know nothing more then what they want to eat are complete dumbasses. Idiot probably thinks marvin harrison doesn't deserve it because he doesn't like to be in the spotlight.
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What bout Bettis?


you know, i've never considered bettis to be a hof rb but his stats are pretty impressive. he'll get voted in. monk should have already been voted in.
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What bout Bettis?
No. He probably ranks just a bit higher than Martin, if for no other reason than his numbers which are going to finish in the Top Five.

To me, the criteria for establishing a player's spot in the HOF is consistent domination of opponents for several years. Art Monk at many times dominated the game. He held the single season reception record for many years, at a time when 100 or more receptions was unheard of.

If I had a vote, neither Martin nor Bettis would get into the Hall.
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No. He probably ranks just a bit higher than Martin, if for no other reason than his numbers which are going to finish in the Top Five.

To me, the criteria for establishing a player's spot in the HOF is consistent domination of opponents for several years. Art Monk at many times dominated the game. He held the single season reception record for many years, at a time when 100 or more receptions was unheard of.

If I had a vote, neither Martin nor Bettis would get into the Hall.
I just wondered if you thought maybe two SB appearances, including a possible ring this Sunday, would put Bettis over the top. I'm sort of torn on it.

Just like I'm torn about whether guys like Andre Reed, Henry Ellard, and Jimmy Smith should also join.
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No. He probably ranks just a bit higher than Martin, if for no other reason than his numbers which are going to finish in the Top Five.
I'm I missing something or does Martin have better numbers than Bettis?
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I'm I missing something or does Martin have better numbers than Bettis?
wow, they are pretty darn close in a bunch of stats.
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