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If the extension to the CBA can't get done, then what?

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View Poll Results: If an extension to the CBA isn't reached, what will happen?
The team will suffer in 2006 and beyond 5 5.62%
The team will suffer in 2006, then who knows 19 21.35%
The team will suffer in 2006, but benefit in 2007 24 26.97%
The team will be fine in 2006 and beyond 18 20.22%
I have no clue 23 25.84%
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Old 02-26-2006, 12:26 AM   #46
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Re: If the extension to the CBA can't get done, then what?

cutting lavar can still save 6.5mill from his bonus right? (how big is the bonus?) and jansen, thomas, and brunell all have high base salaries, so if they each give back a million (500k this year and next cause of the 30% rule, if you turn it into bonus money then they'd have to give back a lot more, but less actual money)... that puts you about even, then you just need 2mill for draft picks and to know that our free agents are all gone and no one else is coming in through free agency.
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Old 02-26-2006, 03:57 AM   #47
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Re: If the extension to the CBA can't get done, then what?

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So if the CBA is not done by friday march 3rd what will the Redskins have to do? I have seen that the Redskins are 21 million over the cape. Who will be cut or how will we get below that! I saw VP of football operations V.Cerrato say the if the is no CBA the the team[Redskins] would do most of thier player acquisitions in the draft not free agency! That kind of cape short fall is no small matter! A new WR or what ever seems way off!!! We will be lucky to keep what we have on the team now.
"Some in the NFL believe Redskins owner Daniel Snyder is particularly torn by the collective bargaining impasse. Snyder needs a new labor deal to ease the team's cap issues in 2006. But he also has spent heavily on free agents in the past and, if an extension is not completed, there would be no salary cap in 2007. That would allow him to spend as lavishly as he likes on new players."
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It's kind of a "win-win" situation because if an extension is not reached there won't be a cap in 2007...We just have to cut who we can cut, sign who we can sign, and trade who we can trade. It seems devastating but I think we'll be alright...If not; We will have our fun in 2007.

Considering that an extension isnít reach, I suggest we trade up in the draft to acquire a WR using next yearís picks. Without a cap, who needs the draft when we can sign proven players where money isn't an issue?
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Old 02-26-2006, 04:01 AM   #48
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Re: If the extension to the CBA can't get done, then what?

Not looking good.


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Old 02-26-2006, 05:40 AM   #49
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Considering that an extension isnít reach, I suggest we trade up in the draft to acquire a WR using next yearís picks. Without a cap, who needs the draft when we can sign proven players where money isn't an issue?

guys wont hit free agency for 6 years after being drafted instead of 4 years out. good players wont be tossed for monetary concerns. more than one team will try to buy a superbowl, and the prices will at some point hit saturation (in all likelyhood). a draft violates anti-trust laws anyways (robs draftees of the chance to take competitive bids for their services).

If the draft goes, then we can buy college players... but most free agents are likely to be junk the original team didn't want.
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Re: If the extension to the CBA can't get done, then what?

i just read an article on foxsports that said monday the nfl was going to announce the 2006-2007 salary cap at 95 million.they also said there would be an extension on the cba deadline.i think this is wonderful news
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Old 02-26-2006, 09:06 AM   #51
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i just read an article on foxsports that said monday the nfl was going to announce the 2006-2007 salary cap at 95 million.they also said there would be an extension on the cba deadline.i think this is wonderful news
if its true then yeah, it means we could actually add free agents and pay our draft picks
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Old 02-26-2006, 09:49 AM   #52
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Re: If the extension to the CBA can't get done, then what?

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"Some in the NFL believe Redskins owner Daniel Snyder is particularly torn by the collective bargaining impasse. Snyder needs a new labor deal to ease the team's cap issues in 2006. But he also has spent heavily on free agents in the past and, if an extension is not completed, there would be no salary cap in 2007. That would allow him to spend as lavishly as he likes on new players."
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It's kind of a "win-win" situation because if an extension is not reached there won't be a cap in 2007...We just have to cut who we can cut, sign who we can sign, and trade who we can trade. It seems devastating but I think we'll be alright...If not; We will have our fun in 2007.

Considering that an extension isnít reach, I suggest we trade up in the draft to acquire a WR using next yearís picks. Without a cap, who needs the draft when we can sign proven players where money isn't an issue?
One issue is that in the uncapped year there are other rules that go into effect, one of them being that the free agency year moves to the 7th year of NFL experience. There are other things that were also built into the current CBA to serve as encouragement to avoid losing the cap though I don't know what they all are.
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Old 02-26-2006, 09:58 AM   #53
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One issue is that in the uncapped year there are other rules that go into effect, one of them being that the free agency year moves to the 7th year of NFL experience. There are other things that were also built into the current CBA to serve as encouragement to avoid losing the cap though I don't know what they all are.
players dragging the NFL to the courts over anti-trust issues in which the players would win decisively (the only reason the current illegal practices are allowed is because the union agreed to them).
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Old 02-26-2006, 11:17 AM   #54
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"Our scout.com sources at the NFL combine have informed WarpathInsiders.com that there have been signs of progress towards a new collective bargaining agreement.

Members of one NFL organization are telling their staff that there is a very strong chance that the CBA will be extended by the deadline. Significant recent progress has been made, according to our source.

Another NFL source has told Scout.com that the 2006 salary cap will be announced on Monday, February 27. 2006's cap, according to this source, will be $95 million. This is on the high end of what was expected - most estimates were anywhere from $92 to $95 million.

Atlanta Falcons GM Rich McKay, who co-chairs the Competition Committee and has long been a major player in league matters, talked to the media on Saturday about the possible extension to the Collective Bargaining Agreement that would greatly affect how cap money is spent.

McKay said that the teams remain hopeful that there will be an extension, despite Playerís Association head Gene Upshaw's recent comments that agents should negotiate as if there will be no extension. McKay also said that without a new deal, the March 3 free agency deadline will not be pushed back.

McKay said that it would be "extremely difficult" to operate without an extension.

Without a cap, McKay said that the "tricks of the trade" will all drop into this year's cap, affecting cap room. Contracts would only be able to be four years long and he thinks trades will be less likely because of accelerated bonuses. He also expects free agency would be slower."
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Old 02-26-2006, 12:57 PM   #55
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Re: If the extension to the CBA can't get done, then what?

It strikes me as odd that Upshaw seems to spend more time talking to the agents than he does to his members. Or is it just that agents blab more to the press? In any event, it's poor public relations to have the details of these meetings leak. If this struggle is viewed as being between the owners and the agents rather than between the owners and the players, the players lose whatever sympathy they have among the fans, which isn't much.
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Old 02-26-2006, 01:44 PM   #56
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agents tend to be the voice pieces of the players in these matters (money) and they need to know how to work the contracts... I agree that the fans have generally no respect for agents though since they tend to promote greed and hinder a fan's team (whichever team that may be) by demanding more than $1 contracts
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How much will we save if we chop Mark Brunell. Don't start the flame war, but maybe we should keep Ramsey and get rid of Brunell's monster cap number.
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How much will we save if we chop Mark Brunell. Don't start the flame war, but maybe we should keep Ramsey and get rid of Brunell's monster cap number.
no cba or pre june 1 and we'd have to pay 300k more to cut him than keep him.

if a new cba happens, he can be cut post june 1 and save 1mill next year and something around 4.5-5mill this year.

ramsey would cost 1.88mill to keep. I mentioned this possibility in the cap analysis thread; it would make some sense (though i HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt gibbs would ever consider it).
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no cba or pre june 1 and we'd have to pay 300k more to cut him than keep him.

if a new cba happens, he can be cut post june 1 and save 1mill next year and something around 4.5-5mill this year.

ramsey would cost 1.88mill to keep. I mentioned this possibility in the cap analysis thread; it would make some sense (though i HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt gibbs would ever consider it).
Wish i was your age Guy.....more responsibilities theses days....used to have the energy to be on top of things b4. Long story short...thx 4 your time and KNOWLEDGE...u my new hero and not jokin....appreciate your research dude.
that ramsey fan guy seems to have a I AM RIGHT ALWAYS attitude....nice to hear from a true skins fan.
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Wish i was your age Guy.....more responsibilities theses days....used to have the energy to be on top of things b4. Long story short...thx 4 your time and KNOWLEDGE...u my new hero and not jokin....appreciate your research dude.
that ramsey fan guy seems to have a I AM RIGHT ALWAYS attitude....nice to hear from a true skins fan.
Are you talking about Ramseyfan? Our very own Ramseyfan? I don't agree with him on a lot, but I don't think he has an "always right" attitude and he does a good job of presenting evidence to support his claim. I think he's a true skins fan
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