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Old 03-01-2006, 12:49 PM   #1
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V. Cerrato has f-ed our team again with this whole salary cap fiasco. He did it when he was here the first time, then Schottenheimer comes in and "rights the ship" for one year, Cerrato comes back and trashes it again. Why is he still around? He over pays everyone, is a poor talent evaluator, and structures deals that end up biting the skins in the ass, not to mention those crazy bug eyes. I know he is DS's boy but where ever he goes, he seems to bring salary cap problems along with him, hes the one that screwed up the 49ers cap years ago.
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Old 03-01-2006, 12:51 PM   #2
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Uhm, the Redskins have been one of the best teams in the league at massaging the salary cap, we're not the only team that will be completely screwed if the CBA doesn't get signed. For instance, the Atlanta Falcons are well under the cap as it stands now, but if the CBA isn't signed then they may have to cut Warrick Dunn (stole that from Pasta Belly). I really can't put any blame on the Redskins organization for the way they've handled the cap, the CBA is a bit of an exception, but I have yet to see us fall into cap hell where we have to liquify the team (see the Titans)
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V. Cerrato has f-ed our team again with this whole salary cap fiasco. He did it when he was here the first time, then Schottenheimer comes in and "rights the ship" for one year, Cerrato comes back and trashes it again. Why is he still around? He over pays everyone, is a poor talent evaluator, and structures deals that end up biting the skins in the ass, not to mention those crazy bug eyes. I know he is DS's boy but where ever he goes, he seems to bring salary cap problems along with him, hes the one that screwed up the 49ers cap years ago.
Cerrato isn't the GM. Moreover, many of the recent free agent acquisitions have been good - Griffin, Moss, Washington, Springs, Portis, Thomas, Clark, to name a few. Who we draft is often determined by the coach, Snyder, and the scouting reports (which Cerrato doesn't do). So, I'm not sure how Cerrato is to blame. But, I know he's a popular figure to blame.

While we may be entering the depths of the salary cap hell, we wouldn't be (at least yet) if the CBA were extended (as most thought it would be). The Redskins have done a pretty good job of proving people like me wrong about how good/bad our cap is being managed. For years people like me said that we were going to go into cap jail. We haven't really seen too much cap hell yet (save the loss of Pierce and Smoot). If an extension to the CBA is reached, we might not ever see cap hell.
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Old 03-01-2006, 01:09 PM   #4
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I actually think what the Redskins did, planning wise, was a decent job of managing the cap.. Their obvious mis-step was assuming the CBA would be signed. If so, they would only be about 8 million over the cap, easily able to get to that point and have $$ to sign free agents... Nobody anticipated this labor situation coming to pass and even with it coming we are potentially looking at not having 4 starters (Royal, Clark, Hall, Wynn) from last season's playoff team? We'll have no veteran depth, but with teams looking at releasing players like Dunn, Derrick Brooks, Moulds, Simeon Rice it's not going to be as ugly as it will be in other cities from a star/impact player standpoint.
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Old 03-01-2006, 01:13 PM   #5
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if a new cba happens, we'll be fine. last year the skin made almost no moves (rabach, cheap... moss, VERY cheap, and patten, also cheap) in an effort to balance out the cap which was spiraling a bit out of control. they were fixing it with sound financial restraint, but a dead cba will kill it outright.

the 4 worst contracts we have right now are lavar (pre gibbs), brunell (that on gibbs being to eager and falling into a one way bidding war with himself), wynn (pre gibbs), and samuels (danny coul've gotten him MUCH MUCH MUCH cheaper if he didn't wait and let walter jones sign a crazy deal instead).

that's it. the portis contract isn't great, but its structured well enough that the bonus money won't be killer when its time to rework or let him go. They signed marshall to a long deal before he started 16 games at MLB, washington has earned his check and moss performed WAY above his deal. everyone else is generally a good value.
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Old 03-01-2006, 01:18 PM   #6
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the good news (i guess) is at least these players are coming back:
5 offensive starters, 5 defensive starters, #2 QB, #2 RB, and a crappy WR...

Chris Cooley
Taylor Jacobs
Manuel White Jr.
Mark Brunell
Cornelius Griffin
Randy Thomas
LaVar Arrington
Shawn Springs
Clinton Portis
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Old 03-01-2006, 01:19 PM   #7
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our draft strategy suddenly changes to include a LOT more players at every position, especially offensive line.
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Old 03-01-2006, 01:21 PM   #8
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I am not a big Vinny fan, but your giving him a little to much credit here. vinny does what he's told...he doesn't make any decisions that dictate the Redskins salary cap. He runs scouting and he may give opinions on players himself, but he does not have final say on anything that happens. So to blame him for being over the cap is wrong.
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Old 03-01-2006, 01:49 PM   #9
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if the cba was signed,would this thread have even been started?
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Old 03-01-2006, 02:00 PM   #10
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I can't believe we made it this far into the offseason without a Cerrato bashing thread.

He doesn't have much to do with the team operations anymore, so let's give the guy a break already.
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Old 03-01-2006, 02:04 PM   #11
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Just a random thought, if Taylor gets sent to jail does he still count against the salary cap?
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Old 03-01-2006, 02:08 PM   #12
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if the cba was signed,would this thread have even been started?
Yes, but for different reasons. For example: Is anyone else sick and tired of the emails trying to sell the limited field view seating we get during the regular season. I for one am, and therefore, Vinny Cerrato sucks.

Something like that would definitely have popped up.
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Old 03-01-2006, 02:10 PM   #13
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I think Cerrato is the one that provides Portis with the juice.

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Old 03-01-2006, 02:14 PM   #14
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Old 03-01-2006, 02:14 PM   #15
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are we seriously going to the salary cap thing and start to blame another person for this mess. We are going to pay the price, just as everyone else in the situation. we are just going to pay it a little harder than the rest of the league.
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