What Will Happen to Ramsey?

diehardskin2982 · 03-04-2006, 01:39 PM

I feel the CBA will be extented

RiggoRules · 03-04-2006, 02:18 PM

The cap space is more valuable than the low round pick we might be able to get for him. He'll be released sometime before 6PM Sunday.

Ricky Williams must be on this board. That's the only explanation for someone voting that Ramsey will command a first or second round pick.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-04-2006, 02:24 PM

Tagliabue retires. Ramsey is new commish.

Schneed10 · 03-04-2006, 02:28 PM

5th or 6th rounder IMO. We'll end up just taking what we can get.

That Guy · 03-04-2006, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Huddle

It's Miami for a fourth round pick.

Miami, the Jets and Oakland have shown interest but Miami is the only team that interests Ramsey enough to sign an extension. The extension makes him worth more.

Miami will cool on Drew Brees. Too much money, too much risk.

Gibbs might have to hold out, though. Miami won't give up a pick as long as they think there's a chance that Joe will release Patrick.

if they call the bluff and its a dead cba, we'll have to ditch a lot of roster filler just to prove ramsey's not leaving without getting value... then hope no one eats our filler until ramsey gets us a pick and we can get them resigned.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 03-04-2006, 02:38 PM

Unfortunately, I don't think we'll get more for him right now than a 5th, 6th, or 7th. There are too many free agent QBs and, save Miami, the teams that need QBs are perfectly positioned to get one in the draft.

Huddle · 03-04-2006, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by That Guy

if they call the bluff and its a dead cba, we'll have to ditch a lot of roster filler just to prove ramsey's not leaving without getting value... then hope no one eats our filler until ramsey gets us a pick and we can get them resigned.

If the scenario you describe happens, there's going to be a lot of filler out there...some of it better than ours. How much filler does 1.7 mil buy anyway? We still need a number three QB.

Incidentally, this is the burning question now:

Now that Brunell has restructured, how much can we save off the cap if we cut him?

RiggoRules · 03-04-2006, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Huddle

Incidentally, this is the burning question now:

Now that Brunell has restructured, how much can we save off the cap if we cut him?

Prior to the restructure, cutting Brunnel would have resulted in about 5.5 mil in dead money. With the restructure, I can't see any way it could do anything other than make it worse. Also, if there is no CBA, post June cuts go on the 2K6 cap, not 2K7.

Mattyk · 03-04-2006, 04:18 PM

With no CBA I think there's a good chance we keep him.

That Guy · 03-04-2006, 04:26 PM

riggo, it was a joke

1.7mill buys just over 7 min contract rookies or just about 4 6+ year vet min contracts.

it'd be worth it to keep him to prove we won't cut him without a pick (a high 4th this year could still get you a good player, or be traded with our 5th + 6th or our 3rd to move up in a round).

i doubt highly we keep ramsey into the season if it can be avoided though. 1.7mill is a lot of cap savings considering the current situation.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 03-04-2006, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

With no CBA I think there's a good chance we keep him.

Really Matty? The way I see it, if the CBA isn't extended and the 2006 cap is left at $94.5 million, we'll likely be forced to dump him. If an extension to the CBA is reached, I could see us holding onto him for a little while longer to get fair value for him.

I think Ramsey's value is hurt by the lack of a CBA because teams figure that we will have to get rid of him. If the CBA extension is reached, I think his value will increase and we'll see more interest and better compensation.

Mattyk · 03-04-2006, 04:29 PM

With no CBA it will all depend on how much the restructures helped and how much we need his cap space.

RiggoRules · 03-04-2006, 04:30 PM

[QUOTE=That Guy]riggo, it was a joke

[QUOTE]

I've had three different people say words to that effect to me seriously since Thursday.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 03-04-2006, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

With no CBA it will all depend on how much the restructures helped and how much we need his cap space.

Yeah, it's frustrating that we don't know how much those restructured deals saved us.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 03-04-2006, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiggoRules

I've had three different people say words to that effect to me seriously since Thursday.

No worries. I think you would've had to have been around the site for the last few days to realize that it was an inside joke.

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Outright release	11	17.74%
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Traded for a 3rd or 4th	15	24.19%
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03-04-2006, 01:39 PM	#16
diehardskin2982 What will Shanny do this offseason? Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,924	Re: What Will Happen to Ramsey? I feel the CBA will be extented __________________ Let's win games now...PLEASE

03-04-2006, 02:18 PM	#17
RiggoRules Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 380	Re: What Will Happen to Ramsey? The cap space is more valuable than the low round pick we might be able to get for him. He'll be released sometime before 6PM Sunday. Ricky Williams must be on this board. That's the only explanation for someone voting that Ramsey will command a first or second round pick. __________________ *"Lighten up, Sandy Baby."*

03-04-2006, 02:24 PM	#18
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 31 Posts: 17,120	Re: What Will Happen to Ramsey? Tagliabue retires. Ramsey is new commish. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-04-2006, 02:28 PM	#19
Schneed10 RG Glee Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 33 Posts: 7,897	Re: What Will Happen to Ramsey? 5th or 6th rounder IMO. We'll end up just taking what we can get. __________________ Skins' Salary Cap Status \| CrazyCanuck's Cap Figures by Player \| Salary Cap 101

03-04-2006, 02:38 PM	#21
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 34 Posts: 8,317	Re: What Will Happen to Ramsey? Unfortunately, I don't think we'll get more for him right now than a 5th, 6th, or 7th. There are too many free agent QBs and, save Miami, the teams that need QBs are perfectly positioned to get one in the draft.

03-04-2006, 04:18 PM	#24
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,739	Re: What Will Happen to Ramsey? With no CBA I think there's a good chance we keep him. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-04-2006, 04:26 PM	#25
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 30 Posts: 15,624	Re: What Will Happen to Ramsey? riggo, it was a joke 1.7mill buys just over 7 min contract rookies or just about 4 6+ year vet min contracts. it'd be worth it to keep him to prove we won't cut him without a pick (a high 4th this year could still get you a good player, or be traded with our 5th + 6th or our 3rd to move up in a round). i doubt highly we keep ramsey into the season if it can be avoided though. 1.7mill is a lot of cap savings considering the current situation. __________________ Who says shameless self promotion is stupid? oh yeah, that was me... Click For Tunes!

03-04-2006, 04:29 PM	#27
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,739	Re: What Will Happen to Ramsey? With no CBA it will all depend on how much the restructures helped and how much we need his cap space. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-04-2006, 04:30 PM	#28
RiggoRules Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 380	Re: What Will Happen to Ramsey? [QUOTE=That Guy]riggo, it was a joke [QUOTE] I've had three different people say words to that effect to me seriously since Thursday. __________________ *"Lighten up, Sandy Baby."*

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