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Old 03-13-2006, 04:52 PM   #16
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Re: The Argument for Team Chemistry?

One thing I think that we are forgetting. Is that 3 of the 4 added players have been to the Super Bowl. This brings some experience that we didn't have to much of on the team. So these guys know what it takes to get tot he show.
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Old 03-13-2006, 05:26 PM   #17
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I mentioned the importance of having team chemistry in a couple of other threads, but I decided to started a new one to get everyone to weigh in on the matter.
Thanks for starting what promises to be an interesting thread.

I've coached boys in baseball, football, and basketball. Keeping the same squad together is far more important in basketball than in the other sports. The more basketball they play together, the better able they are to anticipate and react to each other in the flow of play.

In football, QBs and receivers who spend more time together working on patterns, can make impromptu plays that are similar to basketball passes relying on anticipation and reaction. But, aside from that, football is more about carrying out planned assignments. I think "chemistry" is a relatively minor factor.

I'll tell you what worries me more than chemistry.

I've read about Al Saunders' system at Kansas City. If it's as complicated as it sounds, young Jason Campbell is going to have a full plate. I hope he's up to it.
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Old 03-13-2006, 05:33 PM   #18
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Thanks for starting what promises to be an interesting thread.

I've coached boys in baseball, football, and basketball. Keeping the same squad together is far more important in basketball than in the other sports. The more basketball they play together, the better able they are to anticipate and react to each other in the flow of play.

In football, QBs and receivers who spend more time together working on patterns, can make impromptu plays that are similar to basketball passes relying on anticipation and reaction. But, aside from that, football is more about carrying out planned assignments. I think "chemistry" is a relatively minor factor.

I'll tell you what worries me more than chemistry.

I've read about Al Saunders' system at Kansas City. If it's as complicated as it sounds, young Jason Campbell is going to have a full plate. I hope he's up to it.
It's not really the timing and the executing of assignments that worries me so much. It's something I mentioned later....can we maintain the hunger. That "intangible" that existed in the lockeroom when we went on the five/six game win streak.
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Old 03-13-2006, 05:48 PM   #19
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It's not really the timing and the executing of assignments that worries me so much. It's something I mentioned later....can we maintain the hunger. That "intangible" that existed in the lockeroom when we went on the five/six game win streak.
During that streak, their backs were against the wall. Gibbs and Williams work their teams harder than most coaches, and yet they were on the verge of elimination with six games to play. No...you won't re-create that intangible.

I think what you really want is a supremely confident team that doesn't need to get jacked up on emotion in order to play well.

You want a team that expects to win even when all the breaks are going against them. And the only way to do that is to win a bunch of games by having better players executing a better plan.
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Old 03-13-2006, 06:10 PM   #20
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Re: The Argument for Team Chemistry?

for the most part, i agree with the general consensus that chemistry cannot be predicted, and will have to be TBA until gametime. the one area that concerns me is having 3 high profile WR's.

Talented WR's are egotistical by nature (somewhat understandably so), and I cant help but think that at least one of the 3 top guys will feel that they arent getting the looks that they deserve, which could spill over into an issue over time. just my $.02, any opinions?
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Winning solves lots of problems. Losing creates them.
That's my take on it also.

Players with character will gripe less when the team is losing, but that doesn't mean that they have confidence in their coaches or the system.
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Re: The Argument for Team Chemistry?

team chemistry is always a concern but like others this coaching staff has the responsibility to put everybody in the right positions.everyone needs to be content which worries me a bit also,nobody will be content.but with this staff i feel pretty good about our situation all in all.

but one does wonder.....
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I mentioned the importance of having team chemistry in a couple of other threads, but I decided to starte a new one to get everyone to weigh in on the matter.

First of all, I love the all of the FA signings to date. On paper I think we made ourselves an immeditate Super Bowl contender for the upcoming season. But I have to wonder how much, if at all, we've disrupted team chemstry. And furthermore how do you really measure team chemistry? I mean you know it's there, but how do you know when a team has advance it's cause or messed with a good thing?

Allow me to sidetrack for a moment: I think about this years' Washington Wizards versus last years' team. At the end of last year, many around the NBA thought they were perhaps one or two solid players from breathing down the Miami Heats' neck in a significant way. During the offseason, however, they allowed Larry Hughes, one of their marquee players, to sign with a conference rival. Sound familiar? While he wasn't the main star for Washington, he added so much to the team in terms of chemistry, balance and intensity. The upshot of the story is that the Wizards added three new faces because of Hughes' departure and have been mightily inconsistent for most of the season. Hughes was recently interviewed and strongly intimated that if he had his druthers he would still be playing ball here in D.C. He also noted the Wizards inconsistant play this year and said you can replace bodies but you can't replace chemistry - the way guys feel about each other (on the court), the way they play together is important.

Do I trust Joe Gibbs and Co - yes!! I just hope that these recent additions isn't a case of two steps forward, one step backwards. I hope this is a case of building for the future as well as right now. But then again, in the words of the late George Allen the future is now!

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the wizards will be better in the long run though. larry would have cost too much to continue adding players and it looks like both taylor and blatch are going to be good players (and daniels and butler have both stepped up recently). Hughes can't stay healthy and paying for 40-60 games a season isn't worth it. Trades can hurt in the short term though.

for the skins, how many starters were replaced? clark is the only real arguement. patten wasn't around long enough (when healthy) to gel and everyoen else was worthless at WR #2, so there's no hit there. at DE, wynn wasn't exactly good and he'll probably be on the field at DT doing what he IS good at, so i don't think there's a big hit there. royal was average and a bit player and his repalcement is a bit above average, no hit there.

the only places with potential issues are ROLB and SS, but the talent level of the team has sky-rocketed thus far, and at least 40 players are returning.
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It's already been mentioned that Saunders will use a 3 WR set often so WR depth was critical.

Teams acquire new players every year, we're adding some new guys but it's not a roster overhaul.

Let's not forget this is the 3rd year with this core group of coaches, that goes a long way to promoting team chemistry as well.

This seems right on to me, Matty--man, you're kicking this thread's ass!
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also, every team moves players every year, so it evens out a bit because of that. QB/WR and OL are the spots where chemistry is the most noteable.
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the wizards will be better in the long run though. larry would have cost too much to continue adding players and it looks like both taylor and blatch are going to be good players (and daniels and butler have both stepped up recently). Hughes can't stay healthy and paying for 40-60 games a season isn't worth it. Trades can hurt in the short term though.

for the skins, how many starters were replaced? clark is the only real arguement. patten wasn't around long enough (when healthy) to gel and everyoen else was worthless at WR #2, so there's no hit there. at DE, wynn wasn't exactly good and he'll probably be on the field at DT doing what he IS good at, so i don't think there's a big hit there. royal was average and a bit player and his repalcement is a bit above average, no hit there.

the only places with potential issues are ROLB and SS, but the talent level of the team has sky-rocketed thus far, and at least 40 players are returning.
Good points. It did take the Wizards a little time to come around and Hughes' health has been an issue.

But like I said, on paper everything looks great. I'll wait for about five games to see how we adjust.
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Old 03-14-2006, 10:35 AM   #27
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Good points. It did take the Wizards a little time to come around and Hughes' health has been an issue.

But like I said, on paper everything looks great. I'll wait for about five games to see how we adjust.
you are right that chemistry is an issue, but i think its more important in the coaching staff than the players (unless you're moving 20 guys like the browns).

the analysts jumped on the cards, chiefs defense, vikes defense, skins, and some even the bears when new coaches/owners came in and massive roster overhauls occured.

they were off on the bears and skins by a year. i bet the cards are much better this year (their problem was too many new faces and mental lapses on defense last year, and no running game, not a total lack of talent), but that doesn't mean they'll have a winning record.

I'd bet on the vikes too, but a new coach and really strange GM decisions are making them look like a bad choice (trade culpepper a year after randy moss, trust your team to an above average 37 year old that has an EXTREMELY weak arm and throwing 50mill at an (admittedly great) guard, letting williams go, etc).

I'd bet the browns are better this year, but next year is when i think it really starts to click and they could make the playoffs, depending on health.


you can see screwed up OL situations every year too, but a lot of time it has to due with injuries which cause less talented backups onto the field and forces others to switch positions from game to game trying to find something that works.
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so who are you guys voting on the "fashionable" pick this year. im really going with the browns too. if all their first round picks could stay healthy, they could do some damage with who they got in FA.
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Old 03-14-2006, 11:13 AM   #29
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the fashionable picks are right, but they're usually a year early.
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so are you feeling the cardinals who were the pick last year will step up this year?
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