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Old 03-13-2006, 10:21 PM   #16
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come on where in the hell are the skins gettin all this money??

tags and snyder must have a real special relationship, i think the skins are strait up cheating the system

this is getting ridculus
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Old 03-13-2006, 10:35 PM   #17
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come on where in the hell are the skins gettin all this money??

tags and snyder must have a real special relationship, i think the skins are strait up cheating the system

this is getting ridculus
Let me explain it to you a simply as it was explained on NFL Network:

1. 4.5 Million return from Lavar Arrington was credited to the cap.

2. Massive re-structuring of Brunell, Portis and Springs contract. Approximately 10 millions dollars.

3.7.5 million CBA extension agreement.

4.Released 5 players.

5. And last but not least.... We stretch the signing bonus out through the duration of the contract, so that only 1.5 million qualifies against the cap.
We offer a sought of credit agreement that guarantees the player his bonus through the duration of the contract. The reason the Redskins will not have salary cap problems is because it raises to 109 million next year and will certainly conitnue to increase as the NFL grows. This is brilliant negiotations for this organization that other teams seem to lack.

Others teams wait until the players visit them, while the Redskins send a private jet to wherever they are and tell them exactly where they see them playing in the team. Hail to the Redskins!
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Old 03-13-2006, 10:46 PM   #18
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Let me explain it to you a simply as it was explained on NFL Network:

1. 4.5 Million return from Lavar Arrington was credited to the cap.

2. Massive re-structuring of Brunell, Portis and Springs contract. Approximately 10 millions dollars.

3.7.5 million CBA extension agreement.

4.Released 5 players.

5. And last but not least.... We stretch the signing bonus out through the duration of the contract, so that only 1.5 million qualifies against the cap.
We offer a sought of credit agreement that guarantees the player his bonus through the duration of the contract. The reason the Redskins will not have salary cap problems is because it raises to 109 million next year and will certainly conitnue to increase as the NFL grows. This is brilliant negiotations for this organization that other teams seem to lack.

Others teams wait until the players visit them, while the Redskins send a private jet to wherever they are and tell them exactly where they see them playing in the team. Hail to the Redskins!
thanks sunra didn't quite understand it myself but what i'm thinking is with this core group of guys restructuring shouldn't they be mad that they are using the money they gave up to sign new guys to fat contracts??
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Old 03-13-2006, 10:47 PM   #19
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come on where in the hell are the skins gettin all this money??

tags and snyder must have a real special relationship, i think the skins are strait up cheating the system

this is getting ridculus
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thanks sunra didn't quite understand it myself but what i'm thinking is with this core group of guys restructuring shouldn't they be mad that they are using the money they gave up to sign new guys to fat contracts??
Why would they get mad? They didn't give up one cent. They end up with more guaranteed money.
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Old 03-13-2006, 10:50 PM   #21
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Why would they get mad? They didn't give up one cent. They end up with more guaranteed money.
you think we are going to hold on to brunell once we don't need him because he took a pay cut for now?

i'm not thinking he's going to see his contract to the end
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you think we are going to hold on to brunell once we don't need him because he took a pay cut for now?

i'm not thinking he's going to see his contract to the end
Definitely not. When he originally signed it they said it was basically a 3 year deal. They want Campbell to be the starter but it won't be right away in 06. I am sure that Brunell doesn't mind all of the new toys though.
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Old 03-13-2006, 10:57 PM   #23
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the massive restructure was samuels bonus and re-prorating his original SB. the brunell, springs adn protis restructures were pulled back when the new cba passed. they could have done a restructure since, but no one's made any note of it.

most of the money came from turning all bonuses into SB to prorate it. our salaries go up much faster than the cap projects to at this point, and without a new tv contract or something else major, this is basically our team for a few years.

you can't do this every year, but last year we let two good starters walk and our big signings were rabach (average C, masive upgrade) and patten (#2/#3 WR).
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you think we are going to hold on to brunell once we don't need him because he took a pay cut for now?

i'm not thinking he's going to see his contract to the end
the new cba passed and brunell didn't end up taking a pay cut, cause all those deals ONLY would have gone through if the cba died.
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What the hell? Denim_Monger, I thought you were a Cowboys fan? Now you have a Bears avatar? What's the deal?
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Definitely not. When he originally signed it they said it was basically a 3 year deal. They want Campbell to be the starter but it won't be right away in 06. I am sure that Brunell doesn't mind all of the new toys though.
true it's nice for him to have more reciever help but he wont be getting as much as his original contract before being restructured. it seems like the had some overkill in their signings and it seems like itd be more personal that these core players did it more to keep the team together instead of change the team around a lot. sometimes change is better sometimes its not. on paper it looks like it was best but we wont know untill they play together.
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Old 03-13-2006, 11:03 PM   #27
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the new cba passed and brunell didn't end up taking a pay cut, cause all those deals ONLY would have gone through if the cba died.
are you sure cuz i'm pretty sure they still restructured his contract.

sunra said earlier in the post:

"2. Massive re-structuring of Brunell, Portis and Springs contract. Approximately 10 millions dollars."

i'm guessing brunell is gonna be around for this and next season i dun think he's gonna be gettin paid more next year with us using him less and if he does i think we'll cut him for cap space. Dan Snyder wouldn't hold on to someone because they helped us out just to pay him back. He's a business man.
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Old 03-13-2006, 11:05 PM   #28
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it sucks they don't show contracts cuz i don't understand how they got the cap space they must be screwing themselves for the future if they aren't just pay cutting people and doing it year after year.
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Old 03-13-2006, 11:07 PM   #29
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What the hell? Denim_Monger, I thought you were a Cowboys fan? Now you have a Bears avatar? What's the deal?
and before that it was skins avatars. just a drive by troll, i think i posted a picture of him though (redneck with a 40oz in a basement).
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are you sure cuz i'm pretty sure they still restructured his contract.

sunra said earlier in the post:

"2. Massive re-structuring of Brunell, Portis and Springs contract. Approximately 10 millions dollars."

i'm guessing brunell is gonna be around for this and next season i dun think he's gonna be gettin paid more next year with us using him less and if he does i think we'll cut him for cap space. Dan Snyder wouldn't hold on to someone because they helped us out just to pay him back. He's a business man.
i'm sure. ALL that info said contingent on a dead cba, which obviously didn't happen.

we got closer to 16$mill in restructures, but it was bonus money to prorated signing bonus type stuff.

and you're right, it has the chance to hurt us in the long run. the total contract cost increases quite a bit faster than the cap, meaning cuts or more restructures.

the skins can win as long as they can plan it so the backloaded parts hit when new tv contracts or increased labor caps occur. that's what happened this year (a dead cba would have been awful for us though).
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