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Old 03-15-2006, 01:39 AM   #1
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Who starts at QB?

As we all saw in the playoffs, when Mark Brunell is not 100% he struggles. His injury lingered from the final game against the Giants at home, where Ramsey came in and did well. This team is Jason Campell's team (unless we drafted him for no reason), with the signing of Randle El, and bringing in the second tier to the Joe Gibbs brain (Al Saunders), is this Campell's year to take the reigns at the helm or is Mark still the starter?

Don't get me wrong, if Mark is healthy he as well as the team will do great, but is there any talk of Jason getting the call?
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Old 03-15-2006, 01:40 AM   #2
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Re: Who starts at QB?

well, Adam Schefter reported that Campbell is gonna be our #3 because he still isn't ready yet, so for the time being this is brunell's job.
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Old 03-15-2006, 01:43 AM   #3
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well, Adam Schefter reported that Campbell is gonna be our #3 because he still isn't ready yet, so for the time being this is brunell's job.
When did Schefter say this? I don't see any way that Campbell is not at least our #2 by August.
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Old 03-15-2006, 01:46 AM   #4
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When did Schefter say this? I don't see any way that Campbell is not at least our #2 by August.
I believe it was this afternoon. I was watching total access, about the time culpepper was traded to miami, and he was talking about qb movings and such around the league. I thought that Campbell would be our #2 this season too, that's why i'm not positively sure this true, but i do remember him saying that "sources say that campbell is not ready to be a #2 at this point".
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Old 03-15-2006, 01:51 AM   #5
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Re: Who starts at QB?

Mark Brunell will go down with a stinger or injury within the first half of the season and Jason will step in. It will be up to him to decide whether he takes hold of this team and leads it for years to come or performs ok and hands back Brunell the starting job the next week.
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Old 03-15-2006, 01:56 AM   #6
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Re: Who starts at QB?

campbell, a 1st round pick who in his 2nd year, cant be a 2nd string QB? wtf?
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Old 03-15-2006, 01:57 AM   #7
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Why do you even bother listening to Schefter talk about a quarterback situation in the beginning of the offseason. Jason Campbell has months to prepare and with the addition of Collins the learning process will be much quicker. Add to that 4 games of preseason action there's no way he won't be our #2 by the time the regular season starts. Gibbs even said last season if he had thrown Campbell into one of the games he would've done fine.
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Old 03-15-2006, 02:08 AM   #8
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Why do you even bother listening to Schefter talk about a quarterback situation in the beginning of the offseason. Jason Campbell has months to prepare and with the addition of Collins the learning process will be much quicker. Add to that 4 games of preseason action there's no way he won't be our #2 by the time the regular season starts. Gibbs even said last season if he had thrown Campbell into one of the games he would've done fine.
don't hate the messenger hate the man who said it. I never said i believe it to be 100% true, i'm just letting you know what someone else said about the situation.
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Old 03-15-2006, 02:24 AM   #9
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I apologize in advance to anyone this post might annoy or if this momentarily brings back to life...the old ass tired Ramsey-Brunell debate.

but let me just say that if Cambell is truly gonna remain our number 3 then i dont know wtf they brought in todd collins for.

It is my personal belief that Ramsey given the weapons we now have...could...(and i think and have thought for a long time) should be the guy to lead us deep into the playoffs. I just really wish he had gotten a shot here.

But i feel that every single thing that has been done with Ramsey has been done completely backwards... Like even now, regarding his impending departure from the skins...the skins have now signed a 3rd QB...making it painfully obvious around the league that Ramsey will not be here next year.

This sends a message to potential trade partners that they can offer next to nothing or even nothing at all for ramsey...because they now believe we will just release him soon anyway. So what ever happend to getting fair value for the kid.

i personally believe he is better than Brunell (though i understand and of course respect people who disagree with me on that point). However, i dont think it is far fetched to assert that he is probably better than Jason Cambell at this point. And certainly better than freaking Todd Collins...

So all in all, i guess as a final mini tribute to Ramsey...i just wanted to say one last time that i really liked and believed in the kid...and i really wish we would keep our 3 QB's from last year...and actually allow Ramsey to compete with Brunell for the starting job next season. I truly believe he could lead this new and improved team to a fantastic season, and an exciting playoff chase...

Ok, sorry once again to those who didnt want to have to read that...but thats just my two cents...and i guess if you dont appreciate reading about ramsey...well you can take comfort in the fact that these "silly" arguments wont be around for very much longer as i imagine ramsey will be gone in the coming days.
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Old 03-15-2006, 03:10 AM   #10
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Re: Who starts at QB?

if we can only get a 7th, keep him and open the competition :P who cares.

there is no way collins is the #2, and if campbell isn't better than him, why on earth did we watse a #1 on him?

he came in early and was studying the playbook immediately. He works hard and wants to be prepared, so lets see what he has.
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Old 03-15-2006, 03:42 AM   #11
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if we can only get a 7th, keep him and open the competition :P who cares.

there is no way collins is the #2, and if campbell isn't better than him, why on earth did we watse a #1 on him?

he came in early and was studying the playbook immediately. He works hard and wants to be prepared, so lets see what he has.
Campbell is the # 2 QB and it will not be that unless he fails in the perseason!
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Old 03-15-2006, 05:17 AM   #12
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I apologize in advance to anyone this post might annoy or if this momentarily brings back to life...the old ass tired Ramsey-Brunell debate.
I agree with your feelings on Ramsey but I've turned the page on the idea that someday he'd succeed here. Joe Gibbs doesn't like his game. Joe's not a good coaching fit for a young gunslinger who needs patience.

With all the FA signings, I'd like to get very optimistic about the 2006 season but I have serious doubts about our QB situation.

Last year, our passing game was customized for a 35 year-old Mark Brunell who still has the instincts of a scrambler but doesn't have the legs anymore. From the Seattle game through the San Franscisco blowout, Mark and Santana put up some amazing yardage numbers but, after that, their production fell off. At the end, in the weaker part of our schedule, we were very dependent on the running game and defensive turnovers.

At this stage of his career, Brunell's game is very limited and easily defended. Furthermore, Al Saunders' scheme utilizes a pocket passer. Mark doesn't fit the system.

I hope we didn't bring in Al Saunders to adjust his scheme for a 36 year-old ex-scrambler.

Even if the media rumors that Campbell isn't ready are false, how optimistic can we get about the potential of an offense with a QB who has never taken a snap in an NFL game where real bullets were being fired?
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I always thought that Ramsey would do well following in the footsteps of Favre in GB.
But with a new regime and Favre perhaps gone as well I wouldn't wish anyone that route. If Ramsey leaves I just hope we get value for him.
QB 1 Brunell 2 Campbell 3 Collins
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Old 03-15-2006, 08:16 AM   #14
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Re: Who starts at QB?

I think Brunell starts the season but Campbell has a chance at finishing it.. I don't listen to the mediots who say Campbell isn't ready.. They surely haven't been in practices, in the film room, in meetings so they have no way of telling.. I'd be suprised if Campbell doesn't start at least one preseason game and get significant time with the starters in another.. Collins is strictly an insurance policy/another knowledgeable voice for Campbell/Brunell about the offense.. I'll be glad when we can put the Ramsey stuff to bed once and for all..
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Old 03-15-2006, 08:58 AM   #15
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I apologize in advance to anyone this post might annoy or if this momentarily brings back to life...the old ass tired Ramsey-Brunell debate.

but let me just say that if Cambell is truly gonna remain our number 3 then i dont know wtf they brought in todd collins for.

It is my personal belief that Ramsey given the weapons we now have...could...(and i think and have thought for a long time) should be the guy to lead us deep into the playoffs. I just really wish he had gotten a shot here.

But i feel that every single thing that has been done with Ramsey has been done completely backwards... Like even now, regarding his impending departure from the skins...the skins have now signed a 3rd QB...making it painfully obvious around the league that Ramsey will not be here next year.

This sends a message to potential trade partners that they can offer next to nothing or even nothing at all for ramsey...because they now believe we will just release him soon anyway. So what ever happend to getting fair value for the kid.

i personally believe he is better than Brunell (though i understand and of course respect people who disagree with me on that point). However, i dont think it is far fetched to assert that he is probably better than Jason Cambell at this point. And certainly better than freaking Todd Collins...

So all in all, i guess as a final mini tribute to Ramsey...i just wanted to say one last time that i really liked and believed in the kid...and i really wish we would keep our 3 QB's from last year...and actually allow Ramsey to compete with Brunell for the starting job next season. I truly believe he could lead this new and improved team to a fantastic season, and an exciting playoff chase...

Ok, sorry once again to those who didnt want to have to read that...but thats just my two cents...and i guess if you dont appreciate reading about ramsey...well you can take comfort in the fact that these "silly" arguments wont be around for very much longer as i imagine ramsey will be gone in the coming days.
I agree completely. Patrick was (and may still be) an excellent raw talent. He's tough, he's smart and he's strong. He tried to force throws where receivers were not getting separation and was picked frequently. But that was a problem with the receivers, not the QB. He was young and wanted to make plays. With the new WR talent on the squad, he'd look like the second coming of Elway if given half a REAL chance. I will miss not seeing Ramsey blossom in a Redskin uniform. Like Lavar, he deserved better.
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