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Old 03-17-2006, 10:52 AM   #16
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Re: What Gibbs hasn't Done....landing the small fish!!!

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I think at this point, gibbs and his personnel staff should put more focus on the draft with the few choices that they have (if they haven't already). They seem to haven't been successful at rounds 4 and later. Part of that is not having many picks because I believe the success of draft picks at any round is more about chance than anything else - the more picks that you have, the better chances of success, statistically (sp?) and logically (sp?) thinking.

The draft-related results that have encouraged me about gibbs and co. are the high success rate of rounds 1 - 3 with the few they've had. If they can be consistent and translate some of that success of the earlier rounds to the later rounds, they would be the best personnel staff in the nfl in my opinion. I believe that this could be done by spending (a lot) more time and energy of evaluating draft talent - it's easier to evaluate talent in the early rounds - less players to evaluate and more control with the draft picks. This is easier said than done I know, but I believe this is part of the reason Saunders is on board now - to free up Gibbs to be able to do this stuff.
we have three needs andd only one pick that could be considered useful in addressing one of those 3 needs. We still need 2-3 FAs to be ready for a big run. then CB/LB/OL in the draft for even more depth at those spots.
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Old 03-17-2006, 10:54 AM   #17
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I agree they don't have the depth they should right now but they do have time and the bench players won't cause much fanfare anyway. All the big names are in and the rest of them will be blurbs in the newspaper. Had Ramsey been traded already Todd Collins would have been a blurb in the paper. Maybe not because the Redskins pretty much are the crown jewel of the city.

Since we know they need depth who's out there that they should look at ? I think Orlando Brown who was just released by the team who is a close second on my most hated teams list to the Dallas Cowboys, the Baltimore Ravens. He would probably be good behind Chris Samuels who is bothered by that ankle at times.


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Old 03-17-2006, 10:56 AM   #18
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I have been fishing for over 15 years and landing small fish just ant no fun.
I hear what you are saying but if you need to put food on the table the little ones fight off hunger!!!

By starting this post I wasn't putting down Gibbs. Or saying he wasn't going to get around to it. Just pointing out that the blue collar guy that past Gibbs teams have been known for have been lacking this time around. These are the guys that are not the top free agent for what ever reason. In the past flush with great players,great coaching and hard work under Gibbs. R.Clark is one of those guys but we haven't had that many come in other then him the past two seasons. Let me tell you it will be a few of these kind of players that will make this team move to the next level! Gibbs has been great in everything that he has done...Thank you! I was just saying that these so called nothing pick ups will be big when the season gets going as players get hurt or need some rest! Let us not forget Seattle game were a center had to play a guard spot!
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we have three needs andd only one pick that could be considered useful in addressing one of those 3 needs. We still need 2-3 FAs to be ready for a big run. then CB/LB/OL in the draft for even more depth at those spots.
I see the need to continue to keep an eye on the free agent market, but I think what they have planned in free agent market is already in process (maybe not done, but being patient with what they have planned).

And yeah, assuming the past draft results, they only have 1 pick to address 3 needs and depth. But if they put more time and effort in working the later rounds, they could be more confident in maybe addressing needs and depth - instead of relying just on picks 1-3 and free agency every year.
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Old 03-17-2006, 11:03 AM   #20
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... and they can start off this year in order to build something for next year. You know learning from mistakes. I just can't believe in ignoring rounds 4 and later, if there is chance of success there.
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we have three needs andd only one pick that could be considered useful in addressing one of those 3 needs. We still need 2-3 FAs to be ready for a big run. then CB/LB/OL in the draft for even more depth at those spots.
That is right on the money. I think we can get two OL man and a LB in free agency if we act in the next few weeks. Maybe a CB as well. But the 2nd pick could be used for that CB or OL spot. If it was me I would try like hell to fill all these needs with free agents if they were out there. The money has to be right. You see its not as hard to get a player to come play for you when you throw a ton of cash his way. It's another thing to get a good player to play for you at a cost that isn't over the top!

Then use the draft for the best player out there when the pick come up! Just maybe we can catch a starter in the lower rounds!
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Old 03-17-2006, 11:12 AM   #22
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yeah, after round 3 its much harder and you can't count on those guys to contribute (especially not the first year) in future plans. Its just pot shots hoping for a hit.
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Old 03-17-2006, 11:18 AM   #23
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Re: What Gibbs hasn't Done....landing the small fish!!!

I know that the draft is never a sure thing, especially the later rounds - but who's to say the redskins can't successful there, too. Compared to other teams in fa and early rounds, the redskins are the best by far. It's my fan opinion, I know - but I am also realistically looking at it. To me, the redskins' early round and fa picks are money. Other teams - they seem to be crap shots, even with fa. With other teams, it's like a box of chocolates...

To me, there's nothing from stopping them from doing that in the later rounds too. I mean why can't they ? I'm not sure, but I'm guessing that they just haven't put a lot of time in doing that.
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Old 03-17-2006, 11:22 AM   #24
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Re: What Gibbs hasn't Done....landing the small fish!!!

Like I've said before, pessimism doesn't work with me. If you have a resource that's available, get the best out of it. I don't believe that something is not going work, just because it hasn't in the past, just do something different or try harder at it.
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Old 03-17-2006, 12:14 PM   #25
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Re: What Gibbs hasn't Done....landing the small fish!!!

I wouldn't call the guys we picked up "big fish" to start with. Yes, they got some good money, but these are guys that fill some glaring holes for us.

The Dan Snyder of 2000 would have scooped up T.O., Edge, Culpepper by now. Not because we need them, but because he could.
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I wouldn't call the guys we picked up "big fish" to start with. Yes, they got some good money, but these are guys that fill some glaring holes for us.

The Dan Snyder of 2000 would have scooped up T.O., Edge, Culpepper by now. Not because we need them, but because he could.
well, there's definately an arguement for culpepper.
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