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Old 04-05-2006, 10:54 AM   #16
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Re: taylors lawyer refuses plea bargain

I just had a discussion with my buddy that was a practicing attorney in Florida, Miami/Dade County. After forwarding him the article, and a little background, these are his thoughts:
It could settle as late as Friday afternoon... but I doubt it.. Miami Dade hates to settle anything high profile or in the news.. He's got a good self defense claim, could get off altogether. If he gets convicted it will be a lesser included offense and I would be shocked if he did any time....
...I would be shocked if he did time, even though he used a weapon.... it's not like he was robbing a place with a weapon...
I'm feeling pretty good about it..
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Old 04-05-2006, 11:00 AM   #17
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How nice is it that we even have to have this discussion at all? I wonder what Gibbs thinks about one of his best players cruising around town with a gun.
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Old 04-05-2006, 11:05 AM   #18
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How nice is it that we even have to have this discussion at all? I wonder what Gibbs thinks about one of his best players cruising around town with a gun.
There was no gun found, so who said he was cruising around town with a gun?

And honestly speaking, many athletes these days seem to "pack heat" (street vernacular) when they are out and about, probably out of fear of being confronted or targeted. Not sure, not condoning it, but it seems more and more common even by Hollywood types.
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Old 04-05-2006, 11:28 AM   #19
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There was no gun found, so who said he was cruising around town with a gun?

And honestly speaking, many athletes these days seem to "pack heat" (street vernacular) when they are out and about, probably out of fear of being confronted or targeted. Not sure, not condoning it, but it seems more and more common even by Hollywood types.
Of course thats not a good thing, but what 12th man is trying to say is, that everyone is all over ST like he is the worst person in the world, when we need to realize that this is an issue with alot of athletes and celebs. We should also address this problem as a whole, not through the "ST lenses". Human nature makes it very easy to put blame on one individual(scapegoat theory) rather than digging deep into the issue.
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Old 04-05-2006, 01:31 PM   #20
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There was no gun found, so who said he was cruising around town with a gun?

And honestly speaking, many athletes these days seem to "pack heat" (street vernacular) when they are out and about, probably out of fear of being confronted or targeted. Not sure, not condoning it, but it seems more and more common even by Hollywood types.
All right, let me ask you this. If some thugs stole Joe Gibbs' car, or his ATV, would he A) Call the police and let them handle or B) Go straight into the hood and try to beat the sh*t out or those he thinks stole it?

In other words, Skins players have to be thinking: What Would Joe Do?
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Old 04-05-2006, 01:50 PM   #21
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All right, let me ask you this. If some thugs stole Joe Gibbs' car, or his ATV, would he A) Call the police and let them handle or B) Go straight into the hood and try to beat the sh*t out or those he thinks stole it?

In other words, Skins players have to be thinking: What Would Joe Do?
Sure Joe Gibbs would probably call the police. But in the heat of the moment people are capable of many, many things. But to your point, I think it's safe to say Joe would call the police.

But the reality is they aren't Joe....so why should they be thinking what would Joe do? In fact, none of his players from the past ( 1st era) stopped to think that when they got involved in drugs and other illicit activities.

Do you always ask yourself that with regard to your present employer when making questionable decisions? I know I don't.
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Joe Gibbs always packs heat. I don't know what you guys are talking about.
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Sure Joe Gibbs would probably call the police. But in the heat of the moment people are capable of many, many things. But to your point, I think it's safe to say Joe would call the police.

But the reality is they aren't Joe....so why should they be thinking what would Joe do? In fact, none of his players from the past ( 1st era) stopped to think that when they got involved in drugs and other illicit activities.

Do you always ask yourself that with regard to your present employer when making questionable decisions? I know I don't.
Good point. I'm just saying that Sean Taylor is building a good reputation as a safety and a thug. I wish he'd stay out of trouble. Something tells me this court case won't be the last of his legal problems.
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Old 04-05-2006, 02:12 PM   #24
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Good point. I'm just saying that Sean Taylor is building a good reputation as a safety and a thug. I wish he'd stay out of trouble. Something tells me this court case won't be the last of his legal problems.
True. But I think he's building a good reputation as a saftey...and a "perception" as a thug. Obviously, he's been in the wrong place more than once since joining the team.

We've seen plenty for "ourselves" to validate his being a good NFL safety. Most of his off-the field issues have been reported or made known via third parties, which in my opinion, and I'm speaking for me only, lends itself to creating a negative image/perception of him as an individual.
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Joe Gibbs always packs heat. I don't know what you guys are talking about.
I know dude, I just wanted Twilbert to go on in blissful ignorance
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I know dude, I just wanted Twilbert to go on in blissful ignorance
If Joe's toting, I'm going out right now and buying a .22!
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Old 04-05-2006, 02:21 PM   #27
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If Joe's toting, I'm going out right now and buying a .22!
Naw dude, I see you live in the ATL, you're going to need some heavier hardware than that!!!
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Naw dude, I see you live in the ATL, you're going to need some heavier hardware than that!!!
Ain't that the truth! I'll need an AK-47 to go out in Buckhead.
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A felony follows you for life. One should never ever accept any changes beyond a misdemeanor, and even that should be avoided at all cost.
You know what will follow him longer than a felony. Being able to fufill and restructure a 40 million dollar contract.
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Sure Joe Gibbs would probably call the police. But in the heat of the moment people are capable of many, many things. But to your point, I think it's safe to say Joe would call the police.

But the reality is they aren't Joe....so why should they be thinking what would Joe do? In fact, none of his players from the past ( 1st era) stopped to think that when they got involved in drugs and other illicit activities.

Do you always ask yourself that with regard to your present employer when making questionable decisions? I know I don't.
that is a funny image. I want all of our players walking around saying. What would joe do? THat would be great.
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