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Old 04-10-2006, 06:44 PM   #46
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Hey Guy, what is all the snark for?

Well until today when NO offered our starting FS and ST demon Keith Davis a contract i would have said we were getting either an OLB Carpenter/Lawson/Wimbley/ or If by some miracle Ngata or Justice if they fell down to us.

No WR, no FS, we need someone who can pressure and cover from the other side of Ware or help our Pass Rush. OLB or an NT.
You did sign Ayodele, and took Ware last year. I'm not sure how much more LB depth the Boys need. FS, WR, OL, and NT are all possibilities. I don't think they will go corner, but hey, if the value is there...
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You did sign Ayodele, and took Ware last year. I'm not sure how much more LB depth the Boys need. FS, WR, OL, and NT are all possibilities. I don't think they will go corner, but hey, if the value is there...
Ayodele is going to play WILB or SILB not outside.

We need someone opposite Ware who doesn't make opponents laugh.

3/4 defense needs lots of good LB's.
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Re: Who will be the NFC East best Reciever in 2006?

Here this should answer the questions concerning draft needs. Courtesy of NFL Insider. On a side note I'm getting pretty pissed that everybody in the media is considering the possibility that the Skins' will play Carter at LB.

Dallas Cowboys


Free safety: Keith Davis is a physical run stuffer who plays with a mean streak, but he lacks ideal range and can't recover when he gets caught out of position, which happens far too much considering his experience. As a result, he is more of a situational run stuffer than he is an every-down player. Because Roy Williams is at his best lining up close to the line of scrimmage, Dallas needs a ball-hawk who has the range to play a center fielder-role and the cover skills to match up with slot receivers.

Fabini


Offensive tackle: This might not appear to be a need with the signing Jason Fabini to start opposite Flozell Adams. However, Adams and Fabini are both on the wrong side of 30 and coming off season-ending injuries. In addition, the Jets released Fabini for good reason. He has had problems staying healthy and holding up in pass protection. Depth is also an issue. Jacob Rogers was released, Torrin Tucker was signed to an offer sheet by the Buccaneers and Rob Petitti was a liability in pass protection. Dallas needs to improve the depth and add a tackle who can push Fabini for playing time.


Cornerback:Terence Newman and Anthony Henry form a talented starting tandem. In addition, nickel back Aaron Glenn has the ball skills to make some big plays. However, this remains a need. Newman and Henry are inconsistent, and the undersized Glenn is on the downside of his career. Dallas needs a corner who has the cover skills to compete with Glenn for the nickel back job and the size to eventually push the starters for playing time.

Ferguson


Nose tackle: Jason Ferguson is strong and can hold his own working against double teams, but he lacks the size of a prototypical nose tackle. As a result, he fatigues when teams consistently pound the ball inside. That's reason for concern because there isn't great depth. Backup Thomas Johnson is a developmental prospect who isn't expected to play a substantial role this year. It's also worth noting that Ferguson is 31. Keeping that in mind, adding a young situational run stuffer who can spell Ferguson makes sense.


Guard: Larry Allen is clearly on the downside of his career and it came as little surprise when the Cowboys made him a cap casualty. Marco Rivera, who lined up opposite Allen last year, turns 34 this year and has had some problems staying healthy. Although Dallas signed Kyle Kosier, he lacks ideal power for an interior offensive lineman. The Cowboys need to improve depth and add a guard who is capable of pushing Kosier for playing time.

Other possibilities: Quarterback and fullback


N.Y. Giants


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Outside linebacker: The jury is still out on whether Reggie Torbor will ever realize his potential. Although he has played well at times, he is inconsistent. The bigger concern is on the strong side. Carlos Emmons, who turns 33 this year, has lost a step and is coming off a season-ending pectoral injury. With unrestricted free agent Nick Greisen wanting to play inside and likely signing with another team, there isn't much depth here either. The Giants need an outside linebacker who has the speed, athletic ability and power to supplant Emmons as the starter. That would allow him to move into a backup role where he would provide quality depth.


Wide receiver: Plaxico Burress' first season with the Giants was the second most productive of his career and he returns as Eli Manning's go-to-receiver. There are concerns about the No. 2, however. Although Amani Toomer runs good routes and doesn't drop many passes, he isn't as explosive as he was earlier in his career and has problems consistently separating from man coverage. There is good depth here but Jamaar Taylor drops too many passes and Tim Carter is too raw to replace Toomer at this point. As a result, the Giants need a receiver who has the size, burst and athletic ability to make an immediate impact.

Defensive tackle: Kendrick Clancy's decision to sign with Arizona makes this a far greater need. Clancy didn't make many big plays, but he was relentless and, more importantly, consistent. Although William Joseph has far more natural ability, he doesn't always play with a mean streak and has yet to realize his potential. Exasperating the loss of Clancy is the fact that Fred Robbins, who has had problems keeping his weight down, tends to wear down over the course of games. The Giants need a defensive tackle who can replace Robbins, allowing him to move into a situational run-stuffing role.

Petitgout


Offensive tackle: Luke Petitgout has avoided becoming a cap casualty, but he will have to compete for a starting job opposite Kareem McKenzie. Although he is a technician who plays with good intensity, Petitgout has been slowed by back pain and is having problems holding up on an island in pass protection. Bob Whitfield and Lewis Kelly provide some depth. However, Whitfield isn't an every-down player at this point of his career and Kelly's lack of strength is reason for concern. The Giants need to add a tackle who can push Petitgout for playing time.


Running back: Few players do as much for a team as Tiki Barber does for the Giants. He is a smart, between-the-tackles runner, has the burst to break long runs and catches the ball extremely well. However, he is undersized and 31 years old. That has to raise concerns about his durability, especially since he gets so many touches. Brandon Jacobs is a powerful short-yardage runner, but he lacks the initial burst of an every-down back. The Giants need to start preparing for life after Barber and improve depth by adding a developmental back who has the tools to replace Barber when the time comes.

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Philadelphia Eagles


Strongside linebacker: Philadelphia did well to re-sign Shawn Barber. Although Barber has sustained two season-ending knee injuries and there are concerns about his ability to stay healthy, he is a leader on the field and knows this scheme. Philadelphia also has an insurance policy in Matt McCoy. The raw McCoy has the talent to push Barber for playing time if his technique progresses. However, neither is a good fit for the strong side because they have problems anchoring against the run. That's a concern because Dhani Jones has been inconsistent and he isn't making many big plays. Mark Simoneau provides some depth, but he too struggles when teams run at him. The Eagles need a strongside linebacker who has a nose for the ball, the power to control the point of attack and the burst to prevent backs from turning the corner.

Brown


Wide receiver: Reggie Brown is coming off a strong rookie season and there's no reason to believe that he won't continue to improve as he gains more experience. Of course, improved stability at quarterback would also help. In addition, Philadelphia signed Jabar Gaffney. Gaffney improves depth but the Eagles still don't have a quality No. 2. Gaffney drops too many passes, Greg Lewis is undersized and Todd Pinkston ruptured his Achilles tendon last year. Philadelphia needs a receiver who has the burst and reliable hands to develop into a quality complement to Brown.


Offensive tackle: This might not appear to be a substantial need at this point, as the Eagles re-signed Jon Runyan and haven't made Tra Thomas a cap casualty. However, Thomas is 31 and is coming off major back surgery. His ability to bounce back and remain healthy remains to be seen. Though Todd Herremans provides adequate depth, he is coming off a season-ending leg injury and lacks the natural ability of a quality starter. Philadelphia needs to improve depth and add a tackle capable of replacing Thomas should he sustain another injury or should his level of play drop substantially.

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Running back: Brian Westbrook is one of the most dangerous backs in the league and Ryan Moats averaged more than five yards per carry during is rookie season last year. In addition, Bruce Perry is a big-play threat who provides good depth. The only problem is all three are undersized. Correll Buckhalter is a powerful runner when he is healthy, but he has torn the patella tendon in his right knee the past two seasons, so there are obviously substantial concerns about his durability. The Eagles need a strong between-the-tackles runner who can pick up critical yards in short-yardage situations.


Free safety: There aren't many weaknesses in Brian Dawkins' game. He is a stout run defender, shows good range in coverage and can get to the quarterback quickly when asked to blitz. However, he is 32 and there is no heir apparent on the roster. J.R. Reed showed promise before sustaining a serious leg injury during the 2005 offseason and Quintin Mikell is too small to develop into an every-down player. Philadelphia needs to improve depth while adding a safety who has the skills to eventually compete for a starting role.

Other options: Defensive tackle and fullback


Washington Redskins


Linebacker: Warrick Holdman is an unrestricted free agent and it came as no surprise when Washington made LaVar Arrington a cap casualty. Although Holdman has yet to sign with another team, he turns 31 this year, has had some problems staying healthy and lost the starting job to Arrington last year. If he re-signs, he will have to compete for the starting job opposite Marcus Washington. In addition, free-agent signing Andre Carter lacks ideal cover skills and should see more playing time at defensive end than at linebacker. The good news is Washington can draft the best available linebacker when it goes to fill this need because Lemar Marshall can play on the inside or the outside.

Thomas


Guard: Randy Thomas is a powerful run blocker who can drive defenders off the ball and shows good range when asked to pull. He can also hold his own in pass protection, but the 30-year-old is coming off a season-ending knee injury. Though Derrick Dockery plays with a mean streak and shows good power at the point of attack, he isn't fundamentally sound and shouldn't be an every-down player at this point. In addition, No. 3 Ray Brown has retired, free-agent signing Tyson Walter failed to appear in a game last year and Washington is the third stop in three seasons for free-agent signing Mike Pucillo. Signing Pucillo and Walter improves depth, but the Redskins need an offensive guard who has the tools to push Dockery for playing time.


Defensive tackle: Cornelius Griffin is explosive when he is fresh and Joe Salave'a is a technician who plays hard on every down, but Griffin tends to wear down over the course of the game and Saleve'a lacks ideal natural ability. With Washington making Brandon Noble a cap casualty, there isn't great depth here either. The Redskins need a defensive tackle who has the size, burst and athletic ability to take over as the starter opposite Griffin. That would allow Saleve'a to move into a reserve role where he would provide quality depth.

Carter


Defensive end: The hope is the addition of Carter, who has been a difference-maker in the past, jump starts the pass rush. However, this remains a need. Although Phillip Daniels and Renaldo Wynn are blue-collar players who are relentless in pursuit, both are on the downside of their careers. It's also unlikely either unrestricted free agent Demetric Evans or Nic Clemons ever develops into an every-down player. Washington needs to infuse some youth and add a developmental prospect who has the initial burst to push for immediate playing time on passing downs.

Offensive Tackle: The Redskins have two excellent starters in Jon Jansen and Chris Samuels. Jansen is one of the best drive blockers in the league and Samuels can hold his own working against the league's better pass rushers. Unfortunately, both have had problems staying healthy. While Jim Molinaro provides some depth, he lacks ideal quickness and athletic ability. Washington needs a quality No. 3 who is versatile enough to provide depth at both tackle positions and has the potential to develop into a starter at some point.



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Old 04-10-2006, 07:14 PM   #49
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Santana Moss again.

Does anyone actually think that Owens will even play 16 games?

He'll get suspended, hurt or go on a crybaby protest against Parcells in his driveway sometime this year.
Barring injury, you have to figure TO for 16 games. I don't think he deserved it, but the c-boys signed him to a rich guaranteed contract. He gets his money whether he catches 1 ball or 100. So he has no reason to pout.

With the Eagles, he felt certain things were promised to him and caused a lot of drama when he didn't get it. He wasn't really complaining about the offense. It was all about the money. With an incentive contract, no balls = less money. Dallas took that off the table.

In addition, the CBA threw out the Eagles discipline approach. Sooo, guaranteed money + no multigame deactivation = TO 4 16

For the record, Drew Rosenhaus handled another Pensylvania WR who wanted a new contract. But Hines Ward did it the right way. He remained a team player, let his agent do all the talking and ended up Super Bowl MVP. I believe he's still with the Steelers !!!
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Barring injury, you have to figure TO for 16 games. I don't think he deserved it, but the c-boys signed him to a rich guaranteed contract. He gets his money whether he catches 1 ball or 100. So he has no reason to pout.

With the Eagles, he felt certain thing were promised to him and caused a lot of drama when he didn't get it. He wasn't really complaining about the offense. It was all about the money.
The thing is Jerry Jones said that he thinks that the whole suspension was a growing experience for him. Wether or not he believes that we will never know. However we will certainly find out if T.O. has turned into the same grown up in due time.
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It'll be interesting to see how TO does not playing in a West Coast offense for the first time in his career.
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Right, but Philly was a perennial Super Bowl contender, while Dallas has not been. I'm enough of a man to admit when I'm wrong, but I see him only getting half the yards (which will still be great) that he got with Philly that first year.
Last year, TO was on a pace for 1500+ yards and maybe 16 TDs before his "misfortune." In the first half of last season, Dallas was putting up points, maybe not consistently, but better than the Skins at the time. If Bledsoe has 3 secs in the pocket, TO will get the ball for 1000+ yds minimum.
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The thing is Jerry Jones said that he thinks that the whole suspension was a growing experience for him. Wether or not he believes that we will never know. However we will certainly find out if T.O. has turned into the same grown up in due time.
Yes, and we all hope this will be a growing experience for JJones! :tongue
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Plaxico Burress will probably put up the better numbers just because T.O is spliting the ball with Tony Glenn and Moss is splitting the ball with Randle El and the eagles just don't have anybody to throw the ball to.

It doesn't mean anything though because the skins have enough weapons to spread the field on offense with a strong defense to back it up.
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Last year, TO was on a pace for 1500+ yards and maybe 16 TDs before his "misfortune." In the first half of last season, Dallas was putting up points, maybe not consistently, but better than the Skins at the time. If Bledsoe has 3 secs in the pocket, TO will get the ball for 1000+ yds minimum.
We shall see Master4Caster. Just because your name suggests your omnipotence, does not mean you are correct.

We shall see. TO wears his vagina on the outside.
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The key there is that Bledsoe has to have 3 seconds in the pocket. The cowboys lost three offensive linemen from last season. I don't think the new offensive linemen can have a be cohesive enough to buy the Bledsoe the time he needs or even create significant space for Julius Jones who needs all the help he can get.
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The key there is that Bledsoe has to have 3 seconds in the pocket. The cowboys lost three offensive linemen from last season. I don't think the new offensive linemen can have a be cohesive enough to buy the Bledsoe the time he needs or even create significant space for Julius Jones who needs all the help he can get.
What do you mean we lost 3 offensive lineman we released Allen and if he was released maybe the coaching staff know a little more about Allen production than you and me, and we didn't sign the offer sheet of T. Tucker remmember him he was the guy that replaced Adams once he went down and gave up 4 sacks to Daniels and made him look like a superstar.

Also we picked up 2 guys in FA Fabini to cover the right Tacke side that Petiti ( rookie) cover last year and had trouble with fast DE and Kosier Guard to take over Allen ,so I believe we upgraded the line drop a great player that was clearly in his downfall got somebody that could develope in 2 a good 1 and cover the Tackle position.

Wich ever the case I don't believe is humanly posible to get a worse line this year.
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What do you mean we lost 3 offensive lineman we released Allen and if he was released maybe the coaching staff know a little more about Allen production than you and me, and we didn't sign the offer sheet of T. Tucker remmember him he was the guy that replaced Adams once he went down and gave up 4 sacks to Daniels and made him look like a superstar.

Also we picked up 2 guys in FA Fabini to cover the right Tacke side that Petiti ( rookie) cover last year and had trouble with fast DE and Kosier Guard to take over Allen ,so I believe we upgraded the line drop a great player that was clearly in his downfall got somebody that could develope in 2 a good 1 and cover the Tackle position.

Wich ever the case I don't believe is humanly posible to get a worse line this year.
fabini is pretty good, kosier is pretty average... might be a draw as far as talent, but new parts mean they won't be 100% on point with each other at the start of the season.
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The key there is that Bledsoe has to have 3 seconds in the pocket. The cowboys lost three offensive linemen from last season. I don't think the new offensive linemen can have a be cohesive enough to buy the Bledsoe the time he needs or even create significant space for Julius Jones who needs all the help he can get.
The key for Dallas is the return of a healthy Flozell Adams, who means as much to the Cowboys O-line as Jon Jansen does to us. The whole Dallas offense was degraded when he went down. From what I read, the Cowboys are pretty happy with their FA pick-ups. I admit I dont know much about them, but an improved line is always a tonic for the O. Dallas will be tougher.
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fabini is pretty good, kosier is pretty average... might be a draw as far as talent, but new parts mean they won't be 100% on point with each other at the start of the season.
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The key for Dallas is the return of a healthy Flozell Adams, who means as much to the Cowboys O-line as Jon Jansen does to us. The whole Dallas offense was degraded when he went down. From what I read, the Cowboys are pretty happy with their FA pick-ups. I admit I dont know much about them, but an improved line is always a tonic for the O. Dallas will be tougher.
I pretty much agree with both of this post Fabini is good and an upgrade over petitti and kosier is average but allen was playing average or less and I also agree that new parts in the oline will strugle early on but we can't do worst than last year and where good changes for the long run in our offense.

And also I agreee Flozell is a Mayor part in our oline heck it all comes down to him we sure went downhill when he went down we just didn't had anybody capable of replace him first time in his carrer he got hurth hope it's the last.
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