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Old 06-12-2006, 03:19 PM   #46
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Re: Roethlisberger injured in motorcycle accident

I bet someone in the PA house/senate is working a new law requiring helmets for riders.
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Old 06-12-2006, 03:20 PM   #47
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I bet someone in the PA house/senate is working a new law requiring helmets for riders.
and not because he cares about safety but he is probably a season ticket holder
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Old 06-12-2006, 03:25 PM   #48
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I don't get the idea because he is a football player he should wait to ride a MC after his carrer is over.
I have to agree with you.
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Old 06-12-2006, 04:09 PM   #49
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I do think that some people are going to reconsider riding bikes because of this. I just think that some people really aren't aware that motorcycles are that dangerous. To me, a car cutting off another car is dangerous in itself - but a car cutting off a motorcycle is much more life-threatening because of vulnerability and also a less likelihood of being aware that the motorcycle is even there. And of course, there are dangers with driving cars - but there is more of a danger to your life when you ride a motorcycle because you don't have the same protection of airbags, seatbelts, or even the physical car itself. Not to mention, motorcycles are smaller and thus less visible.

And I'm not condemning anybody for riding motorcycles - I just don't think they are aware of the dangers all of the time.
MC's are statistically more dangerous than cages on a miles ridden basis, and I am not arguing that. That does not make an MC inherently dangerous. People, and their poor decisions are dangerous. What is dangerous is soccer mom's in giant SUV's with cellphones plastered to their ear trying to occupy the same lane I'm in without looking.

What I am arguing is that riders know the risk. What they choose to do with that knowledge is up to them. Even the boneheads who ride around in flipflops and shorts w/no helmet. They know...they just have made a decision about their risk tolerance. Would they make a different decision after a low-speed crash w/significant injuries such as Ben's situation...maybe, but they can't say they didn't know the risks. As such I do not support laws that govern mandatory safety equipment when engaged in private activities, just like I don't support laws that inhibit your right to buy a pack of cigs, a bag of pork rinds, or a bottle of jack, despite the inherent health risks.

For what it's worth I have been riding in D.C./NoVA traffic daily for 10 years without an even close call (knock on wood). In that same time, I have been in two accidents in cages (both due to other driver hitting me). What does that mean...nothing, just that perception is not always reality. If they didn't look/see my big ass car then what I am driving/riding is irrelevant. People generally don't look, so I ride like I am invisible to all around me.

For what its worth I always ride with a full face helmet and full high-vis gear. Ben would have likely walked away from this incident with nary a scratch had he been geared up properly, but we'll never know.

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P.S. As for your last power, we are in agreement. I would not ride if my multi-million dollar career depended on me being in physically top condition. Personally, a riding related injury would slow me down, but it would not end my career and that factors into my decision to ride. It should have factored into his.
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Old 06-12-2006, 04:16 PM   #50
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My problem with street riding is that another person can take you out and with dirt bike riding 99.99% of the time its the riders fault.
Firstdown, you are right. I am not a motorcycle rider, but my father who will be 62 next month is. He has been in 3 wrecks on a bike in his life and all of them were a result of other drivers, not him. People just don't watch out for bikers at all. My dad sold his bike after his last wreck, because he is just scared of other drivers now. Not because he is scared of riding.
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Old 06-12-2006, 04:24 PM   #51
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Re: Roethlisberger injured in motorcycle accident

Update from Pittsburgh live.com

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Roethlisberger lost most of his teeth, fractured his left sinus cavity bone, suffered a nine-inch laceration to the back of his head and a broken jaw, and severely injured both of his knees when he hit the ground, police said. ..."
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this just in..... pittsburgh does not repeat
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For what it's worth I have been riding in D.C./NoVA traffic daily for 10 years without an even close call (knock on wood). In that same time, I have been in two accidents in cages (both due to other driver hitting me). What does that mean...nothing, just that perception is not always reality. If they didn't look/see my big ass car then what I am driving/riding is irrelevant. People generally don't look, so I ride like I am invisible to all around me.
From my viewpoint, it means that you were lucky. You were lucky because if you were riding your motorcycle during the accidents, you could have been injured or injured more seriously.

Would you agree that you can be hurt more in an accident when you are riding a motorcycle versus driving a car ?
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Old 06-12-2006, 04:31 PM   #54
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Re: Roethlisberger injured in motorcycle accident

To me, it's not about the chances of getting into an accident with a car or motorcycle (that's debatable, or maybe not with stats).

It's about which vehicle would be considered to be inherently safer in an accident: car or motorcycle ? ... in other words, which would you choose to be an accident in: car or motorcycle ?
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Among the injuries being reported broken jaw, gashes to forehead, lacerations to the back of the head, and an injury (not serious) to the knee. Probably about a 7 week recovery period
7 Weeks? IF what is being what is being reported is accurate, there is no way he plays this year.

NFL QBs only have so many shots to the head they can take. This may have used up all he has.
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7 Weeks? IF what is being what is being reported is accurate, there is no way he plays this year.

NFL QBs only have so many shots to the head they can take. This may have used up all he has.
I agree, that sounds a lot worse than what they were saying eariler today.
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Old 06-12-2006, 04:50 PM   #57
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Re: Roethlisberger injured in motorcycle accident

I pray that he will be OK. I found out 20 minutes ago when my steeler friend called and was horrified. I slept till 4 and sadly missed the world cup. He should have been wearing a helmet. He is a dumbass. His knees still may have been injured but it is clear other injuries would have been far less serious, broken jaw, 9 inch cut, loss of a lot of teeth. I think he will live and that is the important thing. Lets hope he has a full recovery
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Old 06-12-2006, 04:52 PM   #58
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Re: Roethlisberger injured in motorcycle accident

Didn't he already have some kind of knee problems? Regardless, the knee injuries will probably prove to be much more problematic than anything else.
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Didn't he already have some kind of knee problems? Regardless, the knee injuries will probably prove to be much more problematic than anything else.
yeah, he did. knee problems really never go away. just ask terrel davis. we dont know what happened to his knees but any knee injury is career threatening
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Old 06-12-2006, 04:55 PM   #60
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Re: Roethlisberger injured in motorcycle accident

9 inch laceration in the back of the head? That sounds like a pretty big gash...ah, who needs a helmet. I wonder how he'll manage to wear a football helmet in 7 weeks and comfortably take hits where his head hits hits grass.

p.s. This sure has hell doesn't look like a Harley/Chopper/Cruiser. I wonder what it is.
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