Question for the historians

LBrown43 · 06-27-2006, 04:24 PM

Who was involved in the trade made to get Jim Lachey from the Raiders? Just curious to see what kind of a steal it was!!

FRPLG · 06-27-2006, 04:42 PM

Jay Schoeder

dmek25 · 06-27-2006, 07:10 PM

if lachey could have played alittle longer, could have been maybe a hall of famer, he was that good. and i got to meet jay schroeder, hell of a nice guy

Beemnseven · 06-28-2006, 04:37 PM

Yeah, Schroeder for Lachey -- I'd say that was a steal. Schroeder had his moments, even set a few team records that still stand, I think.

Raiders got a good QB, we got a fantastic offensive tackle. Advantage: us.

bigSkinsfan61 · 06-29-2006, 02:45 AM

yea Jay was the trade
werked out great for us

Carnage · 06-29-2006, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Yeah, Schroeder for Lachey -- I'd say that was a steal. Schroeder had his moments, even set a few team records that still stand, I think.

Raiders got a good QB, we got a fantastic offensive tackle. Advantage: us.

I got to say that I consider Jay Schroeder to be one of the most valuable players of the Gibbs I era. He never played in a super bowl, but the wins got us over many different seasons definatly got us to them.

jamf · 06-29-2006, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carnage

I got to say that I consider Jay Schroeder to be one of the most valuable players of the Gibbs I era. He never played in a super bowl, but the wins got us over many different seasons definatly got us to them.

actually he played 2 plays in superbowl 22 when doug williams hurt his knee.

Btw,
I thought the chargers were involved in that trade somehow...

FRPLG · 06-29-2006, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamf

actually he played 2 plays in superbowl 22 when doug williams hurt his knee.

Btw,
I thought the chargers were involved in that trade somehow...

Nope we traded them Humphries for a 1st rounder who ended up being Desmond Howard.

x44x · 06-29-2006, 03:15 PM

Oakland traded away offensive tackle Jim Lachey to the Washington Redskins for quarterback Jay Schroeder after Lachey had played just one game for the Raiders. Current NFL executive and Raider Hall of Fame tackle Art Shell was the Raiders offensive line coach at the time. Shell remarked to reporters that he was the only one in the room, who said, "Don't do it!" Lachey ended his career as a nine-time all-pro.

Mattyk · 06-29-2006, 04:23 PM

Schroeder still owns the Redskins single season record with 4109 yards passing.

But he didn't really do much after leaving DC.

His best season as a Raider was in 1990 when he passed for 2849 yards, 19 TDs and 9 INTs.

Other than that he was pretty mediocre. The Skins definitely got the better end of the deal with Lachey.

jermus22 · 06-29-2006, 05:02 PM

Lachey had incredible seasons in 1990 and 1991. I may have my facts wrong, but I believe he actually held Reggie White, Lawrence Taylor, Pat Swilling, and Richard Dent sackless in 1990. He was one of the few guys who could actually handle White one on one.

Longtimefan · 06-30-2006, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

if lachey could have played alittle longer, could have been maybe a hall of famer, he was that good. and i got to meet jay schroeder, hell of a nice guy

Doug Williams may beg to disagree with you on that nice guy part. Whatever he said to JG in reference to his playing over Doug was what got him traded.

Mattyk · 06-30-2006, 12:25 PM

Lachey had long enough career, but injuries took their toll at the end. There was a 3 year stretch where he was hands down the best LT in the game.

Here's a nice article about him, it also mentions Schroeder becoming a problem after losing the QB job to Williams.

I think he's worthy of Hall consideration someday. It's just so tough for offensive lineman to get in, but his name should at least be discussed at some point.

LBrown43 · 06-30-2006, 08:36 PM

I should have known that but at 44 my brain just can't keep up like it used to.
I would say that was a trade for the ages as Lachey was the anchor for so many years. Will/Should Jim make the Hall of Fame guys?

dmek25 · 07-01-2006, 07:14 AM

think about some of the pass rushers from that time and lachey had a couple of years where he was a wall of granite. played on the team that allowed fewest sacks in a season if im right.

06-27-2006, 04:24 PM	#1
LBrown43 Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Clinton (as in Portis) New Jersey Age: 51 Posts: 217	Question for the historians Who was involved in the trade made to get Jim Lachey from the Raiders? Just curious to see what kind of a steal it was!!

06-27-2006, 04:42 PM	#2
FRPLG Franchise Player Join Date: May 2004 Age: 34 Posts: 9,232	Re: Question for the historians Jay Schoeder

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dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 51 Posts: 10,442	Re: Question for the historians if lachey could have played alittle longer, could have been maybe a hall of famer, he was that good. and i got to meet jay schroeder, hell of a nice guy __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

06-28-2006, 04:37 PM	#4
Beemnseven Fighting off The Crazies Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 39 Posts: 5,280	Re: Question for the historians Yeah, Schroeder for Lachey -- I'd say that was a steal. Schroeder had his moments, even set a few team records that still stand, I think. Raiders got a good QB, we got a fantastic offensive tackle. Advantage: us.

06-29-2006, 02:45 AM	#5
bigSkinsfan61 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: richmond va Age: 51 Posts: 250	Re: Question for the historians yea Jay was the trade werked out great for us

06-29-2006, 03:15 PM	#9
x44x Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Norfolk Virginia Age: 38 Posts: 211	Re: Question for the historians Oakland traded away offensive tackle Jim Lachey to the Washington Redskins for quarterback Jay Schroeder after Lachey had played just one game for the Raiders. Current NFL executive and Raider Hall of Fame tackle Art Shell was the Raiders offensive line coach at the time. Shell remarked to reporters that he was the only one in the room, who said, "Don't do it!" Lachey ended his career as a nine-time all-pro.

06-29-2006, 04:23 PM	#10
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,751	Re: Question for the historians Schroeder still owns the Redskins single season record with 4109 yards passing. But he didn't really do much after leaving DC. His best season as a Raider was in 1990 when he passed for 2849 yards, 19 TDs and 9 INTs. Other than that he was pretty mediocre. The Skins definitely got the better end of the deal with Lachey.

06-29-2006, 05:02 PM	#11
jermus22 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Martinsburg, WV Age: 30 Posts: 334	Re: Question for the historians Lachey had incredible seasons in 1990 and 1991. I may have my facts wrong, but I believe he actually held Reggie White, Lawrence Taylor, Pat Swilling, and Richard Dent sackless in 1990. He was one of the few guys who could actually handle White one on one. __________________ Win it in the trenches.

06-30-2006, 12:25 PM	#13
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,751	Re: Question for the historians Lachey had long enough career, but injuries took their toll at the end. There was a 3 year stretch where he was hands down the best LT in the game. Here's a nice article about him, it also mentions Schroeder becoming a problem after losing the QB job to Williams. I think he's worthy of Hall consideration someday. It's just so tough for offensive lineman to get in, but his name should at least be discussed at some point.

06-30-2006, 08:36 PM	#14
LBrown43 Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Clinton (as in Portis) New Jersey Age: 51 Posts: 217	Re: Question for the historians I should have known that but at 44 my brain just can't keep up like it used to. I would say that was a trade for the ages as Lachey was the anchor for so many years. Will/Should Jim make the Hall of Fame guys?

07-01-2006, 07:14 AM	#15
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 51 Posts: 10,442	Re: Question for the historians think about some of the pass rushers from that time and lachey had a couple of years where he was a wall of granite. played on the team that allowed fewest sacks in a season if im right. __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

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