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Old 06-28-2006, 01:05 PM   #16
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Re: T.D. showed Moss some love!

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...general standard...depending...
Not much of a standard, I guess.
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Old 06-28-2006, 01:16 PM   #17
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Re: T.D. showed Moss some love!

Many people on this forum are too critical.

I didn't say that Brunell would complete 70%. I simply did the math to show that it wasn't unreasonable to think Moss might catch 100 balls. But still, people must insist that I am wrong (or unrealistic). Gimme a break!
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Old 06-28-2006, 01:20 PM   #18
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Re: T.D. showed Moss some love!

If the new offense is geared towards dumping the ball and quick hitches there's no reason to believe he couldn't catch 100 balls. Truth be told it all depends how defenses play us and the kind of impact our new receivers will have.

If the new receivers garner no respect form opposing defenses, no way in hell Moss catches 100 balls. If they do and they leave Moss in single coverage, well, I'll take Moss over any DB (except maybe Champ, cause we all know Champ is the MAN! :P).

p.s. Portis might have 50+ catches this year.
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Old 06-28-2006, 01:24 PM   #19
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Re: T.D. showed Moss some love!

To catch a hundred passes AND have other receivers still be fairly productive (happy) you need to be a situation where you are more inclined to pass (losing and needing to catch up). Let's hope that we are in a position more often than not that we are running and not passing.
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Not much of a standard, I guess.
lol. So true.
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Re: T.D. showed Moss some love!

I don't care how many he catches as long as the offense gets in the damn endzone more often than last year or at least puts our defense in position to create a turnover for points.
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Old 06-28-2006, 01:33 PM   #22
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If the new offense is geared towards dumping the ball and quick hitches there's no reason to believe he couldn't catch 100 balls. Truth be told it all depends how defenses play us and the kind of impact our new receivers will have.

If the new receivers garner no respect form opposing defenses, no way in hell Moss catches 100 balls. If they do and they leave Moss in single coverage, well, I'll take Moss over any DB (except maybe Champ, cause we all know Champ is the MAN! :P).

p.s. Portis might have 50+ catches this year.
It just doesn't make sense to garner coverage to unproven recivers when Santana Moss is coming off a 1400 yard season. Certain coodinators (Jim *cough* Johnson) are egotistical, but at absolute best (for Moss), the coverages he sees will be balanced zones, such as your standard cover 3, cover 4, cover 2 etc.

Or in the case of Dallas, the classic cover nobody.
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Re: T.D. showed Moss some love!

And if Brunell isn't the starter?

I'm just saying.............
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Old 06-28-2006, 01:41 PM   #24
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Many people on this forum are too critical.

I didn't say that Brunell would complete 70%. I simply did the math to show that it wasn't unreasonable to think Moss might catch 100 balls. But still, people must insist that I am wrong (or unrealistic). Gimme a break!
Not sure what you were trying to say then.

It sure looked to me that you were saying 70% of the passes would be completed, with 30% of that 70% going to Moss.

Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old 06-28-2006, 01:50 PM   #25
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Not sure what you were trying to say then.

It sure looked to me that you were saying 70% of the passes would be completed, with 30% of that 70% going to Moss.

Correct me if I'm wrong.
I wanted to show that it wasn't unreasonable to think Moss could have 100 catches this season--that's all. I didn't offer my opinion on how either would perform. Still, people want to criticize my post. I find that on this forum people are constantly trying to defend themselves (and attack other posts). It sucks.
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I wanted to show that it wasn't unreasonable to think Moss could have 100 catches this season--that's all. I didn't offer my opinion on how either would perform. Still, people want to criticize my post. I find that on this forum people are constantly trying to defend themselves (and attack other posts). It sucks.
LOL

But by saying 70%, that is unreasonable. Impossible? No. Unreasonable? Yes.

Don't take things too seriously. I think you just didn't word your post all that well. It looked like you're saying that Brunell will complete 70%.
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Re: T.D. showed Moss some love!

Relax Inspector. This is a happy space. Remember that we're all hyped up for the upcoming season. Ever since the post-game interviews after the Seattle game we all have been looking forward to August (I love watching pre-season games). Just stay cool and have fun.
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Old 06-28-2006, 02:05 PM   #28
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Re: T.D. showed Moss some love!

So we're all stuck on 70%?

What's the difference between 60% and 70% for a season?

60% of 450 = 270
70% of 450 = 315
315-270 = 45 completions
45/16 = 2.8 completions per game

So, is it unrealistic to believe that Brunell will complete 2-3 more passes per game? I don't think so. I think the argument should be made that the attempts will decline--not so much on 70%.

Either way, it's just statistics--not my opinion.
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So we're all stuck on 70%?

What's the difference between 60% and 70% for a season?

60% of 450 = 270
70% of 450 = 315
315-270 = 45 completions
45/16 = 2.8 completions per game

So, is it unrealistic to believe that Brunell will complete 2-3 more passes per game? I don't think so. I think the argument should be made that the attempts will decline--not so much on 70%.

Either way, it's just statistics--not my opinion.
Nobody in the entire league has completed 70% in the last 4 years.

I'm not even sure the last time someone has done it, because ESPN's stats database only goes back to 2002.

If Brunell does complete 3 extra passes per game, I guarantee you his attempts will go up as well.
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Old 06-28-2006, 02:18 PM   #30
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Re: T.D. showed Moss some love!

Moss averaged 5.25 catches per game last year. To get to 100 and play in all 16 games he would only have to get 1 more catch per game. That is realistic to me. The problem is how all of the other catches are distributed. Cooley averaged almost 4.5 catches per game and no one else averaged more than 2 catches. Let's say some drops from last year and some more people getting open (El and Lloyd) happen this year. Then maybe some of Brunell's incompletions and throws out of bounds, and/or QB scrambles because no one got open suddenly go away...... Maybe there would be another 7-10 catches in there somewhere per game. That would 4-5 for Lloyd and 4-5 for Randle El and maybe a screen pass to Portis a couple of times. Then you get to where Brunell is completing 20 passes a game instead of the 16 passes per game he averaged last year.

It is all possible.
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