Sportscenter final 4 agree or not?

GTripp0012 · 07-05-2006, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by freddyg12

I'm surprised that aside from a few on this board, nobody seems to give the Broncos any props. They just got a major reciever in javon walker & the rest of the team was already solid. No way the chiefs can win the division over them. I see KC as a team in slow decline.
I also see Atl. as being really tough even if vick gets hurt since they have schaub.
Overall the nfc is going to be tougher all the way around, but a lot of teams are banking on vets in key positions, including us w/brunell. Health will be the difference come december.

I don't think a team lead by Jake Plummer and Ron Dayne will be threatening for the SB anytime soon. They just let their TE walk in FA, replacing him with a draft pick (who they reached on by about 2-3 rounds), and just let the glue of their defensive line, nah their entire defense, jump to Baltimore free of charge. They just paid colossal turd Gerrard Warren, almost ensuring laziness, and replaced the aforementioned Trevor Pryce with Kenard Lang. So tell me, exactly how was this a good offseason for the Broncos?

GTripp0012 · 07-05-2006, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by saden1

They are basically picking the same teams that were there last year. I wonder how many times that has happened.

Thus fuels my anger at how the NFL UDC was selected. First of all they have 9 out of 12 playoff teams returning from last year. One out of these three teams is Baltimore who before signing McNair, I had as the worst team in the NFL. Now they are merely one of many bad teams. If you want to talk returning playoff teams, why not mention up and comers like the Jags or the Bengals? They have the Broncos, Colts, Pats, and Steelers in the playoffs. I bet on my life that at least one of these teams doesnt make the playoffs. I'd bet a large sum of money that at least 2 don't make it. I went through the schedule and only had the Steelers returning, although I could see the Colts. But dont worry, ESPN told me what to think, so thats that.

But that's not the funniest part of this deal. The Champ games are NE @ Pittsburgh, and Carolina @ Seattle. Sound familiar? That's cause these games HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN CHAMPIONSHIP GAMES WITHIN THE LAST 2 YEARS. Thank you ESPN for spending ten days telling us that the NFL will be boring and predictible this year.

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http://firejoemorgan.blogspot.com/20...s-part-ii.html

GTripp0012 · 07-05-2006, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm not buying the Cards either. Very suspect OL + a fragile, fumbling Kurt Warner does not = playoffs.

I am buying the Cards, finally. Edgerrin James is exactly what they needed. The Cards OL was very suspect last year, however no worse than the Colts as far as talent goes. The Colts were #1 in the league in terms of sack given up, and that line isn't any good. Peyton deserves most of the credit, but a lot goes to Edge for his excellent blitz pickup skills, and the threat of running he brought that put more pressure on coodinators to back off the blitz with him in the backfield. With him in Arizona, sit tight and watch the Cards sack totals go way down, and the Colts go up to where they should be with the weak line they have.

The Cards had the no. 1 pass O last year and the no. 32 rushing attack. Again, Edge is exactly what they needed.

D'BOYZ · 07-05-2006, 01:55 PM

apperently he should be ready during preseason if he doesn't has any complications

70Chip · 07-05-2006, 04:07 PM

Here are my playoff picks:

NFC

1. Seattle
2. Washington
3. Tampa Bay
4. Chicago
5. Dallas
6. Minnesota

AFC

1. Denver
2. Indianapolis
3. Cincinatti
4. Miami
5. New England
6. Kansas City

There is no way the Giants get a sniff. When they turn on Coughlin it will be ugly.

Moseley_in_the_snow · 07-05-2006, 04:55 PM

Redskins take it all. I'm thrilled with all of the new additions to the team, they are all very neccesary, but this is Clinton's year. He's hungry, CP and the O-line carry us to the Super Bowl.
Carolina will be really good, but 'Key' is oh-so coverable at this point in his career. Their D will be great, and Jake's leadership outwieghs his mistakes. Never-the-less, I'm planning to be clinging to a lamp-post on a cold DC afternoon in January as the Champs' parade rolls by.
HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ArtMonkDrillz · 07-05-2006, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Moseley_in_the_snow

Redskins take it all. I'm thrilled with all of the new additions to the team, they are all very neccesary, but this is Clinton's year. He's hungry, CP and the O-line carry us to the Super Bowl.
Carolina will be really good, but 'Key' is oh-so coverable at this point in his career. Their D will be great, and Jake's leadership outwieghs his mistakes. Never-the-less, I'm planning to be clinging to a lamp-post on a cold DC afternoon in January as the Champs' parade rolls by.
HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I still remember clinging to a lamp post as a 9 year old after XXVI! Welcome to the board.

Mattyk · 07-05-2006, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I am buying the Cards, finally. Edgerrin James is exactly what they needed. The Cards OL was very suspect last year, however no worse than the Colts as far as talent goes. The Colts were #1 in the league in terms of sack given up, and that line isn't any good. Peyton deserves most of the credit, but a lot goes to Edge for his excellent blitz pickup skills, and the threat of running he brought that put more pressure on coodinators to back off the blitz with him in the backfield. With him in Arizona, sit tight and watch the Cards sack totals go way down, and the Colts go up to where they should be with the weak line they have.

The Cards had the no. 1 pass O last year and the no. 32 rushing attack. Again, Edge is exactly what they needed.

I think what they really need is a solid QB who doesn't fumble when he's breathed on.

Warner isn't the answer.

Giantone · 07-05-2006, 08:05 PM

I'm saying this with all honesty,I don't have a glue!Now with that said I want the Giants and think we have covered all our fualts ,remember nobody picked us last yeat either .
I really believe it's a even toss up with all 4 teams ,maybe 2wins differance between 1st and last .

ArtMonkDrillz · 07-05-2006, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

I'm saying this with all honesty,I don't have a glue!

I really don't have a glue either.

GTripp0012 · 07-05-2006, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think what they really need is a solid QB who doesn't fumble when he's breathed on.

Warner isn't the answer.

Warner's been successful wherever he's been. 2 MVPs in St. Louis, 5-3 as the QB of the G-men, no. 1 passing O in Arizona. There are about 15-20 teams that wish they had a QB as good as Warner still is.

And thats taking the fumbling problem into consideration.

Mattyk · 07-05-2006, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Warner's been successful wherever he's been. 2 MVPs in St. Louis, 5-3 as the QB of the G-men, no. 1 passing O in Arizona. There are about 15-20 teams that wish they had a QB as good as Warner still is.

And thats taking the fumbling problem into consideration.

Of course they had the #1 passing offense, they had no running game to speak of and they were constantly playing from behind.

If he could stay healthy you might have an argument. Trouble is he can't. He hasn't played a full season since 2001. During that time he's been a shadow of his former MVP self with just a 78.15 passer rating, 21 TDs, 25 INTs, and 14 lost fumbles.

There are plenty of teams in the league in need of quality starters, Warner is not a quality starter anymore over the long haul of a season. He might be good for about 10 starts, but that's not enough to get a team into serious contention.

gibbsisgod · 07-05-2006, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Of course they had the #1 passing offense, they had no running game to speak of and they were constantly playing from behind.

If he could stay healthy you might have an argument. Trouble is he can't. He hasn't played a full season since 2001. During that time he's been a shadow of his former MVP self with just a 78.15 passer rating, 21 TDs, 25 INTs, and 14 lost fumbles.

There are plenty of teams in the league in need of quality starters, Warner is not a quality starter anymore over the long haul of a season. He might be good for about 10 starts, but that's not enough to get a team into serious contention.

WOW! thats 39 turnovers. how many games did he play over that span? i know he has been injured and missed some time so it probably comes to more than 1 turnover per game.

Moseley_in_the_snow · 07-06-2006, 12:07 AM

How do the Cards chances for success change when Warner gets hurt and Lienart goes in? Sure he's a rook, but he's as pro-ready rooks get.

vaoutlaws2006 · 07-06-2006, 05:54 AM

our these guys serious with this prognatication this early? there are to many variables in the nfl to take this espn depth chart seriously. all it did at least for me was get me hyped for the season and get me signing up for fantasy football. does anyone besides me remember what the "espn gods" said about our skins last season...they picked us to finish last in the division and not make the playoffs. correct me if i am wrong....didnt the skins win a playoff game last year? i think we did.

07-05-2006, 01:55 PM	#34
D'BOYZ The Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,345	Re: Sportscenter final 4 agree or not? apperently he should be ready during preseason if he doesn't has any complications

07-05-2006, 04:07 PM	#35
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 42 Posts: 3,048	Re: Sportscenter final 4 agree or not? Here are my playoff picks: NFC 1. Seattle 2. Washington 3. Tampa Bay 4. Chicago 5. Dallas 6. Minnesota AFC 1. Denver 2. Indianapolis 3. Cincinatti 4. Miami 5. New England 6. Kansas City There is no way the Giants get a sniff. When they turn on Coughlin it will be ugly. __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

07-05-2006, 04:55 PM	#36
Moseley_in_the_snow Camp Scrub Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 30	Re: Sportscenter final 4 agree or not? Redskins take it all. I'm thrilled with all of the new additions to the team, they are all very neccesary, but this is Clinton's year. He's hungry, CP and the O-line carry us to the Super Bowl. Carolina will be really good, but 'Key' is oh-so coverable at this point in his career. Their D will be great, and Jake's leadership outwieghs his mistakes. Never-the-less, I'm planning to be clinging to a lamp-post on a cold DC afternoon in January as the Champs' parade rolls by. HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

07-05-2006, 08:05 PM	#39
Giantone Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,666	Re: Sportscenter final 4 agree or not? I'm saying this with all honesty,I don't have a glue!Now with that said I want the Giants and think we have covered all our fualts ,remember nobody picked us last yeat either . I really believe it's a even toss up with all 4 teams ,maybe 2wins differance between 1st and last .

07-06-2006, 12:07 AM	#44
Moseley_in_the_snow Camp Scrub Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 30	Re: Sportscenter final 4 agree or not? How do the Cards chances for success change when Warner gets hurt and Lienart goes in? Sure he's a rook, but he's as pro-ready rooks get.

07-06-2006, 05:54 AM	#45
vaoutlaws2006 Impact Rookie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Fayettenam, NC Age: 41 Posts: 806	Re: Sportscenter final 4 agree or not? our these guys serious with this prognatication this early? there are to many variables in the nfl to take this espn depth chart seriously. all it did at least for me was get me hyped for the season and get me signing up for fantasy football. does anyone besides me remember what the "espn gods" said about our skins last season...they picked us to finish last in the division and not make the playoffs. correct me if i am wrong....didnt the skins win a playoff game last year? i think we did.

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