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Old 07-15-2006, 06:18 AM   #16
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Re: Is Brunell a good quarterback?

who the hell would take leftwich over brunell. has been injured at college, and still hasnt played a season without getting hurt. i wouldnt take rothlesberger, either. i think a good young quarterback that is a product of a system. the steelers will be interesting this year without the bus. who is going to run the ball, duce? thats funny just thinking about it
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Old 07-15-2006, 08:56 AM   #17
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Re: Is Brunell a good quarterback?

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I couldn't leave this one alone...

You wouldn't take Byron Leftwich over Brunell? You would probably take Hasselback over him??? Let me guess, it is a tossup between Brunell and Peyton Manning.

The season needs to start soon. I am not even going to waste the energy on someone who makes statements like these.
Glad your so energy efficient! The word "probably" can be a confusing one indeed. I don't see a huge gap between the performance of Brunell versus Hassleback, especially last year. Mark had very comparable stats (www.nfl.com is decent resource) even though he had a tougher strength of schedule, an injury, a ProBowl caliber lineman that went down with injury and only one wideout option. Matt had ...um...errr...well none of these problems. Having said all that, I still would probably take Matt over Mark just like I would probably wear a jacket outside when it's particularly cold.
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Old 07-15-2006, 09:32 AM   #18
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Re: Is Brunell a good quarterback?

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I couldn't leave this one alone...

You wouldn't take Byron Leftwich over Brunell? You would probably take Hasselback over him??? Let me guess, it is a tossup between Brunell and Peyton Manning.

The season needs to start soon. I am not even going to waste the energy on someone who makes statements like these.
I gotta hit you for this one, because I am the type that wastes energy on someone who makes statements like the one you just made.

What is so great about Byron Leftwich at this stage of his career? Maybe you were suggesting that we're better off with Byron Leftwich for the long haul than we are with Mark Brunell, and that I could understand. But I have no idea why that kind of thinking even enters the equation when our QB of the future is already sitting on our bench.

Look at last year's performance:
They both had completion % of 57%.
Brunell's QB rating was 86, Leftwich's was 89, about the same.
Brunell fumbled 10 times in 16 games, Leftwich fumbled 8 times in 11 games.
Interception/TD ratio was similar, Brunell was 23/10 and Leftwich was 15/5.

Their performance seems the same to me. And don't forget, Leftwich is coming off a broken ankle. It will likely be fine, but wouldn't you rather have Randy Thomas coming into this season without having to recover from a broken leg? I'd take Brunell for this season. He's not coming off major injury, he's got more experience, and he produces just like Leftwich.

I just don't get how you can suggest that you'd take Leftwich in a heartbeat over Brunell. The only way it makes sense is if you're taking him for the long haul.
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Old 07-15-2006, 10:15 AM   #19
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Re: Is Brunell a good quarterback?

Here'sthe real question:
Is he any better than JoeTheisman, Doug Williams, or Mark Rypein?
3 avergae qb's, one awesome coach, 3 Superbowl victories.
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Old 07-15-2006, 10:42 AM   #20
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Leftwich hasn't done jack, so yes I would take MB over him.
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Old 07-15-2006, 12:19 PM   #21
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Re: Is Brunell a good quarterback?

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Here'sthe real question:
Is he any better than JoeTheisman, Doug Williams, or Mark Rypein?
3 avergae qb's, one awesome coach, 3 Superbowl victories.
Thank you, you hit it on the head. Gibbs wins Super Bowls, Qbs just play in them.
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i wouldnt take rothlesberger, either. i think a good young quarterback that is a product of a system. the steelers will be interesting this year without the bus. who is going to run the ball, duce? thats funny just thinking about it
A product of what system? What is so great about the Steelers offensive system? Remember how bad Maddox and Batch were in it last year? I know he didn't have to throw the ball that much, but he still played great, especially in the playoffs. Now he's going into his third year....I would love to have Roethlisberger.

And Willie Parker is going to run the ball...he got over 1200 yards last year
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Let's put it this way. If Mark Brunell plays at the top of his game this year and stays healthy we can win the Super Bowl.
hehehehehehehehe , "IF"..is a big if.:smashfrea
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hey steveo, remember how good a scrub like tommy maddox looked for the steelers before he got hurt? and willie parker had 1200 yards mainly running on the edge of the field. bettis got all of the tough yards between the tackles(where games are won) who gets those yards now? if parker stays on the field the entire game now he doesnt finish the season healthy
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i would trade 5 brunells for brett farve
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i would trade 5 brunells for brett farve
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Brunell sucks, we should get Ramsey.
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Brunell sucks, we should get Ramsey.
We haven't had a Ramsey thread in a few days. Who's up for one?
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hey steveo, remember how good a scrub like tommy maddox looked for the steelers before he got hurt? and willie parker had 1200 yards mainly running on the edge of the field. bettis got all of the tough yards between the tackles(where games are won) who gets those yards now? if parker stays on the field the entire game now he doesnt finish the season healthy
Maddox had one good year in 2002 and he didn't even play the whole season, and he still threw 16 picks. Then he got crappier in 2003 and the steelers sucked. http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1005. Then they lost Mike Mularkey as their offensive coordinator, but the system didn't change that much because they just promoted Ken Whisenhunt from being the Tight Ends coach. Maddox's last two seasons have been total crap, even though he only played a couple games each year.

Willie Parker had a lot of carries each game, so there is no way that he ran outside every play. Nobody gets 255 carries and doesn't go through the middle. They also have Verron Haynes and Duce Staley to make up for the few yards that Bettis got. They are both big backs that got more yards per carry than bettis last year.

And Roethlisberger will probably pass it more, now that he is more experienced and he has shown that he can handle it. He will have a great season...and it's not because of the system.
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well, you know how the old saying goes, only time will tell
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