Is Brunell a good quarterback?

That Guy · 07-16-2006, 03:14 PM

bettis was a nice guy, but his production was already tailing off. they still got krieder at FB and faneca at guard etc. they'll be alright. OLines/TEs/FBs are, on average, way more important than RBs (unless you've got jim brown or barry sanders).

Kevikazi · 07-16-2006, 07:12 PM

Brunell threw decent long balls last season, but Santana Moss had to wait for some of those passes. With all these speedy WRs we have now, I hope Brunell is able to get the ball to them on stride.

GTripp0012 · 07-16-2006, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevikazi

Brunell threw decent long balls last season, but Santana Moss had to wait for some of those passes. With all these speedy WRs we have now, I hope Brunell is able to get the ball to them on stride.

I noticed that too. As long as the QB gets it out over the reach of the defender, I'm happy. Let the WR do the work and score.

LBrown43 · 07-16-2006, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by FaithfulFan

Here'sthe real question:
Is he any better than JoeTheisman, Doug Williams, or Mark Rypein?
3 avergae qb's, one awesome coach, 3 Superbowl victories.

Like I have said....I could have quarterbacked the 1992 squad with that awesome offensive line. The key is the line. Joe, Doug and Mark R had Super Bowl caliber offensive lines. Get Brunell some time to find the great recievers we have and we should do very well!!!
It should soon read like this....Joe, Doug, Mark and Mark !!!

Luxorreb · 07-17-2006, 02:40 AM

I'd keep Brunell over all these guys:
Ben Roethlisberger
Matt Hasselbeck
Marc Bulger
Brad Johnson
Jake Delhomme
Eli Manning
Kurt Warner
Steve McNair

leaving:
Tom Brady
Trent Green
Peyton Manning
Carson Palmer (healthy)

Luxorreb · 07-17-2006, 02:42 AM

Brunell played incredibly last season when he was healthy and his accuracy, running ability for making plays and field prowess are among the leagues best. Way smarter and field savvy than Brad Johnson and all the others.

Giantone · 07-17-2006, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Luxorreb

Brunell played incredibly last season when he was healthy and his accuracy, running ability for making plays and field prowess are among the leagues best. Way smarter and field savvy than Brad Johnson and all the others.

Did you watch the same games everyone else did?

Beemnseven · 07-17-2006, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by FaithfulFan

Here'sthe real question:
Is he any better than JoeTheisman, Doug Williams, or Mark Rypein?
3 avergae qb's, one awesome coach, 3 Superbowl victories.

I understand the point you're trying to make, but among the QBs you mentioned, I would have to say Theismann is quite a bit higher than 'average'. Check out some stats on him here:

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...s/TheiJo00.htm

From 1978-1984, he was consistently ranking in the top ten for statistical categories for quarterbacks, with an effective scrambling threat to boot. In fact, he was the last scrambling QB Washington had before Brunell.

It's been such a long time since he's played, and many of the members here at the Warpath have never seen him play. Most people think of him now as an annoying broadcaster, they forget that he really was a great player.

Edit: When the history books are written, the three best quarterbacks Washington ever had will be Baugh, Jurgenson, and Theismann.

freddyg12 · 07-17-2006, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevikazi

Brunell threw decent long balls last season, but Santana Moss had to wait for some of those passes. With all these speedy WRs we have now, I hope Brunell is able to get the ball to them on stride.

Yes, he gets the ball out late on a lot of deep throws. This could be a factor of his age. With age you can get stronger, but you can't get quicker in terms of reflexes and your depth perception changes. So it may be that his arm is just as strong but he can't see the field & react in the quick fashion that he used to.
He's also much less likely to throw the ball into traffic or gamble than when he was young. Sometimes I think he was too conservative, but overall I'll give Brunelll his props & hope he can stay healthy. He deserves to end his career on a high note.

#56fanatic · 07-17-2006, 08:13 AM

I can't believe we are having this conversation again. How many times did we have it during last season, and how many this offseason. In my mind Brunell should have been in the pro bowl. Vick should not have been there. The guy is a quality QB who can win games. Its been unproven if he can win the big game. I think with the talent we have around him this season it will be less pressure on him to win the game and just be one of the pieces that wins the game.

Mattyk · 07-17-2006, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I understand the point you're trying to make, but among the QBs you mentioned, I would have to say Theismann is quite a bit higher than 'average'. Check out some stats on him here:

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...s/TheiJo00.htm

From 1978-1984, he was consistently ranking in the top ten for statistical categories for quarterbacks, with an effective scrambling threat to boot. In fact, he was the last scrambling QB Washington had before Brunell.

It's been such a long time since he's played, and many of the members here at the Warpath have never seen him play. Most people think of him now as an annoying broadcaster, they forget that he really was a great player.

Edit: When the history books are written, the three best quarterbacks Washington ever had will be Baugh, Jurgenson, and Theismann.

Definitely have to agree here. Theismann was much more than just an 'average' QB.

GTripp0012 · 07-17-2006, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I can't believe we are having this conversation again. How many times did we have it during last season, and how many this offseason. In my mind Brunell should have been in the pro bowl. Vick should not have been there. The guy is a quality QB who can win games. Its been unproven if he can win the big game. I think with the talent we have around him this season it will be less pressure on him to win the game and just be one of the pieces that wins the game.

Brunell not only outplayed Vick, but Delhomme also. He and Eli should have been at the pro bowl, not Vick and Delhomme.

TheInspector · 07-17-2006, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

Guys I'd take over Brunell
Manning
Brady
McNabb
Culpepper
Green
Leftwhich
Palmer

Maybe Delhomme

I'd take Favre over Brunell also.

Monkeydad · 07-17-2006, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Check out some of the highlight clips from last season. When he's on, his passes are so on target it's ridiculous.

Yep. Ask Cowboys fans. Ask their secondary!

07-16-2006, 03:14 PM	#31
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 30 Posts: 15,620	Re: Is Brunell a good quarterback? bettis was a nice guy, but his production was already tailing off. they still got krieder at FB and faneca at guard etc. they'll be alright. OLines/TEs/FBs are, on average, way more important than RBs (unless you've got jim brown or barry sanders). __________________ Who says shameless self promotion is stupid? oh yeah, that was me... Click For Tunes!

07-16-2006, 07:12 PM	#32
Kevikazi Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Maryland Age: 43 Posts: 186	Re: Is Brunell a good quarterback? Brunell threw decent long balls last season, but Santana Moss had to wait for some of those passes. With all these speedy WRs we have now, I hope Brunell is able to get the ball to them on stride.

07-17-2006, 02:40 AM	#35
Luxorreb ^21^ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 1,601	Re: Is Brunell a good quarterback? I'd keep Brunell over all these guys: Ben Roethlisberger Matt Hasselbeck Marc Bulger Brad Johnson Jake Delhomme Eli Manning Kurt Warner Steve McNair leaving: Tom Brady Trent Green Peyton Manning Carson Palmer (healthy) __________________ GO SKINS!!! ^21^

07-17-2006, 02:42 AM	#36
Luxorreb ^21^ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 1,601	Re: Is Brunell a good quarterback? Brunell played incredibly last season when he was healthy and his accuracy, running ability for making plays and field prowess are among the leagues best. Way smarter and field savvy than Brad Johnson and all the others. __________________ GO SKINS!!! ^21^

07-17-2006, 08:13 AM	#40
#56fanatic The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 38 Posts: 1,788	Re: Is Brunell a good quarterback? I can't believe we are having this conversation again. How many times did we have it during last season, and how many this offseason. In my mind Brunell should have been in the pro bowl. Vick should not have been there. The guy is a quality QB who can win games. Its been unproven if he can win the big game. I think with the talent we have around him this season it will be less pressure on him to win the game and just be one of the pieces that wins the game.

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