Another Reason to Hate Dr. Z/Like Dan Snyder

steveo395 · 07-19-2006, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by celts32

Outbursts like that from Danny are the reason that so many sports writers dislike the Redskins. He should have just waived and been on his way. However clueless they may be Z & King are paid to give their opinions and thinking the Redskins will go 5-11 is not a crime it's just a bad opinion. Snyder should rise above these guys and not give them more relevance then they deserve by calling them out in public. I am not Snyder bashing either and I don't like those SI guys I just think Dan should be the bigger man sometimes.

i like it when they hate us because that just makes them predict us to do bad and then we get to prove them wrong

724Skinsfan · 07-19-2006, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by celts32

Outbursts like that from Danny are the reason that so many sports writers dislike the Redskins. He should have just waived and been on his way. However clueless they may be Z & King are paid to give their opinions and thinking the Redskins will go 5-11 is not a crime it's just a bad opinion. Snyder should rise above these guys and not give them more relevance then they deserve by calling them out in public. I am not Snyder bashing either and I don't like those SI guys I just think Dan should be the bigger man sometimes.

Try to keep in mind that you read this from Z's perspective so he's going overdramatize the encounter for literary effect.

GTripp0012 · 07-19-2006, 10:13 PM

There are a lot of bad prognosticators in this world, but Dr. Z takes the cake by a significant margin.

Seriously, I can't wait until Matty heads or tails this biatch.

celts32 · 07-19-2006, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

Try to keep in mind that you read this from Z's perspective so he's going overdramatize the encounter for literary effect.

Yes, maybe so...but he must have said something for Z to mention it in his column. I would prefer he smile and say nothing...

backrow · 07-20-2006, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

Try to keep in mind that you read this from Z's perspective so he's going overdramatize the encounter for literary effect.

724?? Dude, you're kidding?? Writers would do that?????

Would they not lose all credibility?????

Mattyk · 07-20-2006, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by celts32

Outbursts like that from Danny are the reason that so many sports writers dislike the Redskins. He should have just waived and been on his way. However clueless they may be Z & King are paid to give their opinions and thinking the Redskins will go 5-11 is not a crime it's just a bad opinion. Snyder should rise above these guys and not give them more relevance then they deserve by calling them out in public. I am not Snyder bashing either and I don't like those SI guys I just think Dan should be the bigger man sometimes.

I tend to agree with this line of thinking.

If he doesn't want sports writers hating on him, then don't give them any fuel for their fire.

Sit back, shut up and just write the checks.

Guys like King and Zzzzzz are still dopes, but leave the trash talking for the fans. It's what we do best!

BrudLee · 07-20-2006, 09:55 AM

Not a huge "Z" fan, for a couple of reasons.

As you can see here, Dr. Z is on the Hall of Fame voting committee, as the offcial representative of the New York Jets. (Each team has a representative from its media market, presumably to act as a water-bearer for the local teams' interests.) While he covered football for the New York Post (and other NY publications) before joining Sports Illustrated, he joined SI in 1979. That's 27 years since he was a Jets beat reporter, or a columnist that focused on the Jets (or even the New York Sports scene). I suppose there isn't enough of a media presence in New York to find someone more appropriate.

He's also been the source of some of the most outrageous anti-Art Monk quotes ever.

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SI.COM: How about Art Monk?

Dr. Z: Monk was hurt by Michael Irvin being eligible this year. It's done alphabetically, and Irvin was presented before Monk. I think that really hurt him.

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You DON'T get into the Hall of Fame catching 800 eight-yard hooks.

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Art Monk is another four-timer. A great possession receiver. Caught a lot of balls in Joe Gibbs' system. Every time I mention that I didn't vote for him because I simply felt that other people were more deserving than a guy who caught 900 eight-yard hooks, I wake up all the Washington diehards, who start screaming about my anti-Redskins bias. Start stirring, you folk out there. It will happen again.

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Catching 800 eight-yard hooks does not make a Hall of Famer, which is the same reply I’ve given your two or three other correspondences … you remember, the ones you wrote on toilet paper in crayon.

The Art Monk Hall of Fame Website lists nearly every mention from Zimmerman of Monk, both when he was playing and not. Of note would be this review of the 1991 NFC Championship game (emphasis mine):

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The Washington offense was typical Joe Gibbs: Set ‘em up with one thing, hit ‘em with another. He’ll use the thunder of the heavy running game behind two or three tight ends, then the deep strike from quarterback Mark Rypien — 45 yards to Gary Clark, 31 to Art Monk, a 21-yard TD to Monk, 45 yards to Terry Orr. That last one left the fans smiling.

Mattyk · 07-20-2006, 10:04 AM

Such a lame cop-out... 900 8-yard hooks.

Monk's lifetime yards per catch is 13.5.

Let's at least hit on some facts Dr. Z.

saden1 · 07-20-2006, 11:17 AM

Dr. Z sounded upset. What did he expect from Snyder? Sound a lot like he goes with the crowd and he likes to do all the calling out himself. What a prick.

724Skinsfan · 07-20-2006, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Such a lame cop-out... 900 8-yard hooks.

Monk's lifetime yards per catch is 13.5.

Let's at least hit on some facts Dr. Z.

This means that Monk's other 40 catches would have had to average 138 yards. It's possible...Did Art Monk play in an era with experimental field dimensions?

ArtMonkDrillz · 07-20-2006, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Such a lame cop-out... 900 8-yard hooks.

Monk's lifetime yards per catch is 13.5.

Let's at least hit on some facts Dr. Z.

Isn't the fact that he caught 900+ passes of any kind very impressive? I mean how many other people could be counted on so consistantly?

Mattyk · 07-20-2006, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

Isn't the fact that he caught 900+ passes of any kind very impressive? I mean how many other people could be counted on so consistantly?

Apparently catching 900 hooks is easy and anyone can do it. I'd love to see his ass out there on the field.

ArtMonkDrillz · 07-20-2006, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

This means that Monk's other 40 catches would have had to average 138 yards. It's possible...Did Art Monk play in an era with experimental field dimensions?

I think you need to email that one directly to the dickface himself.

BDBohnzie · 07-20-2006, 11:53 AM

considering that Monk at one point was the all time leader in receptions, and held several NFL Records (which thanks to Jerry Rice and others, were all but obliterated)...he should be in. I mean, Steve Largent's in, and his number are pale now compared to Monk and Rice.

those who can, do. those who can't becomes experts about it.

ArtMonkDrillz · 07-20-2006, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BDBohnzie

considering that Monk at one point was the all time leader in receptions, and held several NFL Records (which thanks to Jerry Rice and others, were all but obliterated)...he should be in. I mean, Steve Largent's in, and his number are pale now compared to Monk and Rice.

those who can, do. those who can't becomes experts about it.

And those who can't become experts become Dr. Z

07-19-2006, 10:13 PM	#18
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Age: 25 Posts: 15,143	Re: Another Reason to Hate Dr. Z/Like Dan Snyder There are a lot of bad prognosticators in this world, but Dr. Z takes the cake by a significant margin. Seriously, I can't wait until Matty heads or tails this biatch. __________________ Shanahan: “The bad thing is he's [Sav Rocca] probably our best offensive weapon and that’s not good.”

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Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,739	Re: Another Reason to Hate Dr. Z/Like Dan Snyder Such a lame cop-out... 900 8-yard hooks. Monk's lifetime yards per catch is 13.5. Let's at least hit on some facts Dr. Z. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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saden1 Eternally Legendary Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 33 Posts: 9,738	Re: Another Reason to Hate Dr. Z/Like Dan Snyder Dr. Z sounded upset. What did he expect from Snyder? Sound a lot like he goes with the crowd and he likes to do all the calling out himself. What a prick. __________________ RG3, RGIII, RG三, RG३, RGγʹ, RGג, RG٣, RG๓, RG..., RG셋, RGԳ!

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BDBohnzie Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Frederick, MD Age: 34 Posts: 4,368	Re: Another Reason to Hate Dr. Z/Like Dan Snyder considering that Monk at one point was the all time leader in receptions, and held several NFL Records (which thanks to Jerry Rice and others, were all but obliterated)...he should be in. I mean, Steve Largent's in, and his number are pale now compared to Monk and Rice. those who can, do. those who can't becomes experts about it. __________________ Bad Things man, I mean bad things... “WE TOOK HIM IN THE SIXTH ROUND SO WE'RE NOT SMART EITHER.” - Shanny on what the Skins saw in Alfred Morris

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