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Old 07-21-2006, 10:02 AM   #16
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Texas stadium is half full when the Cowboys are not having a great season. They have a big nationwide fanbase but their local support is pretty weak I think.
Good point. I guess it's just the inordinantly large number of fans that I always had to deal with growing up in Eastern PA. I mean, why the heck are you a cowboys fan if you're from eastern PA? It never made sense to me, but it always gave me the impression 50% of the country was a Cowboys fan (I'm exaggerating, but you get the point). I always hated that "America's Team" BS too. People would talk about "America's Team" and I'd always fire back by telling them they must be talking about the Redskins......after all, our Nation's capital only has one football team (or at least it did before FedEx).
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Agreed, before the Brady years I don't think I ever came across a single person that claimed to be a Patriots fan. Nobody actually cheered for the Patriots.....they were a joke.

I think my list would be similar in other respects though. I'd say some of my top ones would be Red Sox, Yankees, St. Louis Cardinals, Raiders, Redskins, Cowboys, Steelers and probably the Mets.
I dunno. I think maybe in sheer numbers that Red Sox and Yankees fans might outnumber football teams fans, however many of those fans are disinterested. If you live in that area of the world, it's like it is a prerequisite to make a commitment to either the Red Sox or the Yankees. When it comes to sheer loyalty and straight up fanaticism, I'd have to say that the Redskins and Cowboys fans are some of the best and most loyal.
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Old 07-21-2006, 10:14 AM   #18
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I dunno. I think maybe in sheer numbers that Red Sox and Yankees fans might outnumber football teams fans, however many of those fans are disinterested. If you live in that area of the world, it's like it is a prerequisite to make a commitment to either the Red Sox or the Yankees. When it comes to sheer loyalty and straight up fanaticism, I'd have to say that the Redskins and Cowboys fans are some of the best and most loyal.
Well, I think you find sheer fanaticism in football fans in general moreso than baseball. Football and baseball games are just a completely different environment. I've never lost my voice at a baseball game (even though I am a die hard Mets fan), but I've never had a voice left after a football game. So I'd agree with you, but it just might not be fair to compare baseball fans to football fans. Maybe the discussion should be the top baseball fans, the top football fans, the top college football fans, top hockey fans, etc. It kinda is impossible to mix them and not have all the football teams' fans come out on top. IMO
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Well, I'm talking about people like us who spend day in and day out discussing the team. Sure baseball has those, but if I was naming TOP FANS of any sport, I'd say Skins and Cowboys fans.
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I wonder what Red Sox and Yankees fans who don't care about football would say?
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There's the select group of crazy fans, but the majority just blindly pledge their allegiance. Or at least it seems like that where I live. I try to talk baseball with both sets of fans and they really don't know what's going on. They're like, "Well, I was born here so I'm a huge fan!"
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Old 07-21-2006, 11:11 AM   #22
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you know whats the best thing about bein a skins fan right now though, after years of defending my team through 6-10 seasons and gibbs naysers after the first season i can finally tell those cowboys fans i know to stick it
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Old 07-21-2006, 11:28 AM   #23
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There's the select group of crazy fans, but the majority just blindly pledge their allegiance. Or at least it seems like that where I live. I try to talk baseball with both sets of fans and they really don't know what's going on. They're like, "Well, I was born here so I'm a huge fan!"
Yah, I think most baseball fans are like that, but then again, most football fans are too. Outside of forums like these, most football "fans" don't know as much about their team as I do. At the lunch table the other day I had to educate about 4 Eagles fans as to who their top 5 receivers are. This past weekend, cousins of ours were visiting who grew up in and live in the D.C. area and are "big" skins fans. In talking with them, however, it became very obvious that they were fans, but didn't know half as much about the Skins as I would have assumed every Skins fan knows. And they go to almost every game.

On the flip side, my buddy is a huge Red Sox fan. He not only knows more about the Red Sox than anyone else I know, but he also knows more about baseball and baseball history than anyone else I've ever met.

Overall though, I do believe football fans in general are more passionate. Just look at those freaks at the Raiders games. When's the last time anybody ever got geeked up like that for a baseball game?
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This actually brings up something interesting that Condi Rice said not too long ago, she felt that football not baseball is America's greatest pastime.
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Overall though, I do believe football fans in general are more passionate. Just look at those freaks at the Raiders games. When's the last time anybody ever got geeked up like that for a baseball game?
That could have to do with the fact that there are 160 baseball games a year adn only 16 football games. It's much easier to get all dressed up and whatnot a few weeks out of the year than it is to do it 80 times a summer.

You ever see one of those guys at a baseball game furiously keeping score/stats in their own notebook? That's pretty hardcore if you think about it.
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Right, but it's hard to get pumped up 81 times a year versus only 8 times.
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That could have to do with the fact that there are 160 baseball games a year adn only 16 football games. It's much easier to get all dressed up and whatnot a few weeks out of the year than it is to do it 80 times a summer.

You ever see one of those guys at a baseball game furiously keeping score/stats in their own notebook? That's pretty hardcore if you think about it.
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That could have to do with the fact that there are 160 baseball games a year adn only 16 football games. It's much easier to get all dressed up and whatnot a few weeks out of the year than it is to do it 80 times a summer.

You ever see one of those guys at a baseball game furiously keeping score/stats in their own notebook? That's pretty hardcore if you think about it.
That's a really good point. Although even during playoff baseball, you just don't see that absolutely rabidness in the fans eyes that you see on any given week in the NFL. I guess it's just hard to compare. You can't really behave at a baseball game the way you behave at a football game. If I went to a Mets game and started yelling as loud and jumping up and down as much as I do at PSU games, people would 1. Think I was retarded, or 2. Call security to have me escorted out of the stadium (or maybe both).
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Then you would have an awesome lawsuit!
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That's a really good point. Although even during playoff baseball, you just don't see that absolutely rabidness in the fans eyes that you see on any given week in the NFL. I guess it's just hard to compare. You can't really behave at a baseball game the way you behave at a football game. If I went to a Mets game and started yelling as loud and jumping up and down as much as I do at PSU games, people would 1. Think I was retarded, or 2. Call security to have me escorted out of the stadium (or maybe both).
I think, in part, some of the intensity is because the game itself is a contact sport - played in the trenches. For the most part I think the fans, unconciously, are matching the intensity level and pace of the game.
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