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Old 05-23-2004, 02:28 PM   #1
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Anyone worried???

Is anyone worried that the Giants might pick up Jason Gildon or Trotter after the 6/1 cuts??? I could see it happening because they still have no real star linebackers or players on D except Strahan and maybe Emmons.
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Old 05-23-2004, 03:02 PM   #2
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No... the Giants don't worry me in the least.
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Old 05-23-2004, 03:29 PM   #3
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Gildon is 32 and his best days are behind him. As for Trotter we've seen what he's capable of here for the last two years, so what would we be afraid of?
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Old 05-23-2004, 03:59 PM   #4
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I hope the Giants sign these two and get stuck with them.
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Old 05-23-2004, 04:10 PM   #5
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I think that you guys are seriously underestimating Gildon, the guy can still play as well as any linebacker in the league. And hes a sack master. Hes old and on the decline but hes not done. Trotter can get to the QB to if hes in a system that lets him blitz. I hope they dont sign either one. I dont think they really have the money but I dont want either one of them in NY. Didnt they sign Carlos Emmons anyways? Having him fills a big void for them
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Old 05-23-2004, 04:12 PM   #6
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Jason Gildon used to be one of the 5 best LBs in the NFL. Those days are in the past and aren't coming back because he can't run nearly as fast has he used to.

Redskin fans need to come to grips with what Jeremiah Trotter is. He is a good but not nearly great inside linebacker. Philly replaced him perfectly adequately and Trotter did exactly nothing to lead the skins to glory. If he goes to NY, the skins will replace him perfectly adequately and he will do exactly nothing to lead the Giants to glory.

Skins' fans have to get over the exhilaration that they signed away the franchise player from a Division rival and how great an achievement that was. It was no big deal!
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Old 05-23-2004, 04:16 PM   #7
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one player can not bet you so don't worrie who they sign
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Old 05-23-2004, 04:45 PM   #8
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sportscurmudgeon- "Philly replaced him perfectly adequately and Trotter did exactly nothing to lead the skins to glory. "

are u serious???? Simmeau or however you spell it is far from an adequate replacement for Trotter. He might be the worst starting MLB in the league. I would rather Kevin Mitchell or Cris Clemmons start over him. Trotter played very well for us until his injury. Last year he was still rehabing it for most of the year and still was very solid at MLB. He was a monster in Philly with a solid line and now that he is back at full strenghth I think he will return to that same status. Also, much like Kevin Greene when he left the Steelers and went to the Panthers, Gildon has at least 3-5 good years left in him. Anyone that is doubting Gildon that praising the signing of Barrow would be hypocritical. Both of these players are at the same type of point in their careers.
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Old 05-23-2004, 05:06 PM   #9
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We didn't use Trotter correctly. He's not your stereotypical MLB, he's a blitzer, you send him up the middle. If someone can use him in the correct scheme, he will have plenty of great years to come.
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Regardless as to how well these 2 LB's play they won't make a difference for the NY Giants. They won't be a good team next year, they're going to start Eli. It doesn't matter who they put on defense they're going to struggle. They're going nowhere fast.
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Old 05-23-2004, 08:28 PM   #11
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I agree that those two linebackers are still worth picking up if you are new york.The only thing is that even if you are the best linebacker in the league it doesnt matter if you are on the field too long and get tired.Just ask Lavar and company.Our defense was underrated last year because they just spent too much time on the damn field.
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Old 05-23-2004, 08:51 PM   #12
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Carlos Emmons, Trotter and Gildon would be a hell of a linebacker trio in NY. All of your reasons are valid, but those three would offer a lot of experienec and leadership to that defense.

Anyone know how much cap room they have?
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Old 05-23-2004, 08:52 PM   #13
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Excuse me, but first the Eagles replaced Trotter with Lavon Kirkland who was so far over the hill that he could not see the top of the hill over his shoulder. What happened to them? They made it to the NFC championship game.

That year, Trotter was NOT hurt. He led the Redskins to what? My memory is fading here...

Last year, the Eagles signed Simonteau. He's the worst starting LB in the league according to you. What did the Eagles do? They made it to the NFC championship game. And Trotter led the Redskins to - - five wins and a high draft pick and his ticket out of town unless he takes a 75% pay cut.

Trotter is a good - but nothing better than good - linebacker. If he gets released in June - as he likely will - watch and see how many teams compete with each other to sign him to a big time deal. The over/under number for those teams is ONE. I'll take UNDER. He will sign on with a team for a huge pay cut and he'll be a good - but nothing better than that - linebacker for that money.

Trotter looked better than he actually is with the Eagles because their defensive scheme makes players look good. Other players have left that defense and been less than advertised. Look at Hugh douglass last year for one example; there are others... Trotter fell in love with his stats and his press clippings - as it seems you have - and he priced himself in the Ray Lewis/Brian Urlacher/Junior Seau category. (That's the Junior Seau of three years ago; not the Junior Seau of today.) And Trotter's not that good. Can he play? Yes he can. Will he sign with the Skins for about $800K per year. Not a chance? Is that about what he'll get elsewhere? Pretty close...
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Old 05-24-2004, 12:36 AM   #14
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all he needs to do is sign the Postons as his agents and they will convince some team that he should have been the first pick in last years draft but becasue he was already in the NFL they wouldnt let him enter, but he still wants #1 money. Then they will agree to the terms, but change the contract to 800k a year, which of course will go unnoticed.
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Old 05-24-2004, 12:59 AM   #15
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That year, Trotter was NOT hurt. He led the Redskins to what? My memory is fading here...

Last year, the Eagles signed Simonteau. He's the worst starting LB in the league according to you. What did the Eagles do? They made it to the NFC championship game. And Trotter led the Redskins to - - five wins and a high draft pick and his ticket out of town unless he takes a 75% pay cut.
First of all I believe Trotter was injured the year we picked him up.....from redskins.com.."Trotter started 12 games as middle linebacker for the Redskins defense in 2002, unfortunately having his season cut short due to a knee injury. He tore ligaments in his right knee against Dallas on Thanksgiving Day, ending his season. Despite missing four games, Trotter finished fourth among Redskins defenders in tackles with 104 (72 solo), adding one interception and six pass breakups. He served as one of the leaders and the quarterback of the defense from his middle linebacker position."

Second of all are you saying Simmoneau led the Eagles to the NFC championship game? I watched him get burned and ran over more than any starting MLB in the league. The Eagles got to that game because of the solid offense and other defensive players, not to mention that there coaching is pretty damn solid. As much as it pains me to say this there team was more talented than ours last year thats why they got is far as they did, not because they had an amazing MLB like Ray Lewis that led there defense. Don't get me wrong I am not comparing Trotter to Ray Ray but I am saying that the Eagles defense would have been that much better with a MLB like Trotter.
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