Jets Add Suggs

Eight in the Box · 08-16-2006, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Buster

WHY?!??!?!?!?!?

We have Portis and even if Portis would be lost for the year, which is unlikely, Betts will step right in and keep up our 100-yard+ rushing games. Cartwright is a GREAT backup (3rd-stringer) and that rookie Lumsden is a quality 4th- stringer/emergency back.

Even with Kerry Carter, we have an incredibly deep RB situation. Not just deep, QUALITY depth.

Suggs would be a wasted roster spot. It's bad enough Todd Collins will be on the roster. We could use another CB or LB. Those positions can NEVER have enough backups.

Behind Betts, we don't have a single back capable of carrying the full load while giving us the rush yards we need to be successful. That said, no need to take on another injured RB.

Schneed10 · 08-16-2006, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by freddyg12

Now that they won't be able to trade him for anything, we should keep an eye on Lee Suggs. He's worth a 6th rnd. pick, or maybe we could nab him as soon as he hits the waiver wire.
He's got durability issues & doesn't have great balance, but he has blazing speed & can hit the hole as quick as anybody.

Suggs is not a good idea. If he can't even pass a physical to play for the Jets, what makes you think he'd be good here? You know the Jets are desperate for a RB, they probably told the doctors "look if he can walk, pass him on the physical."

Monkeydad · 08-16-2006, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Eight in the Box

Behind Betts, we don't have a single back capable of carrying the full load while giving us the rush yards we need to be successful. That said, no need to take on another injured RB.

I believe Cartwright could be good, but you do have a point at this time.

However, how many teams other than Denver and MAYBE Chicago have 3 RBs capable of being starters without losing anything from their #1 RB?

Suggs wouldn't give us a third quality RB even if we WERE shopping.

freddyg12 · 08-16-2006, 01:21 PM

I just read that he has osteoarthritis & that's why he failed the physical. He's not injured at the moment, in fact he's played in every practice & in their preseason game. The condition he has is also called degenerative joint disease & over time he'll lose cartilage in his knee.
Maybe when the Jets saw that they didn't feel it was worth it to give up their CB Strait for him.
I'm certainly not saying he's worth any substantial $, cause long-term that condition is troubling. But for vet min. $ as a reserve, he's a lot better than cartwright & has led his team in rushing before.
As for our "shopping", well we did just sign an undrafted rookie named Harris so the coaches are concerned about RB depth. Carter is cut & both Lumsden & Betts didn't play in the preseason game. Not to mention, Ladell has played in 48 of 64 games in his career, so he's shown a propensity to get hurt too.
Sugss is very injury prone but when healthy he's a proven nfl rb, which we don't have beyond Portis, Betts & Cartright. And let's face it, Rock will always be a tough 2nd or 3rd string guy who has to make the team playing special teams.

bridaman51 · 08-16-2006, 04:11 PM

Suggs a proven NFL RB? Are you kidding me? In his 3 years he has totaled 1048 yards rushing, and 4 rushing TD's, He has also lost 4 fumbles. The only season he had even close to resembling a running back season was 2004 when he rushed for 744 yards and 2 TD but lost 3 Fumbles that year.

freddyg12 · 08-16-2006, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bridaman51

Suggs a proven NFL RB? Are you kidding me? In his 3 years he has totaled 1048 yards rushing, and 4 rushing TD's, He has also lost 4 fumbles. The only season he had even close to resembling a running back season was 2004 when he rushed for 744 yards and 2 TD but lost 3 Fumbles that year.

i'm talking about a potential 3rd string back for us, so as far as that goes he's definitely a proven nfl rb. In terms of talent and performance when healthy he's definitely a proven back. He has obvious problems staying healthy, so maybe the Jets thought twice because they're looking long-term.

Pocket$ $traight · 08-16-2006, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bridaman51

Suggs a proven NFL RB? Are you kidding me? In his 3 years he has totaled 1048 yards rushing, and 4 rushing TD's, He has also lost 4 fumbles. The only season he had even close to resembling a running back season was 2004 when he rushed for 744 yards and 2 TD but lost 3 Fumbles that year.

He has 600 yards and 2 tds less than Betts with one less year of service. You could argue that they are similar.

bridaman51 · 08-17-2006, 08:35 AM

You can get those kind of numbers with just about any kind of 2nd or 3rd string running back. The only proven thing here is that he cant stay healthy and even if he did he is nothing more than a 3rd stringer. just because you play in the NFL does not make you a proven NFL player.

08-16-2006, 01:21 PM	#19
freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	Re: Jets Add Suggs I just read that he has osteoarthritis & that's why he failed the physical. He's not injured at the moment, in fact he's played in every practice & in their preseason game. The condition he has is also called degenerative joint disease & over time he'll lose cartilage in his knee. Maybe when the Jets saw that they didn't feel it was worth it to give up their CB Strait for him. I'm certainly not saying he's worth any substantial $, cause long-term that condition is troubling. But for vet min. $ as a reserve, he's a lot better than cartwright & has led his team in rushing before. As for our "shopping", well we did just sign an undrafted rookie named Harris so the coaches are concerned about RB depth. Carter is cut & both Lumsden & Betts didn't play in the preseason game. Not to mention, Ladell has played in 48 of 64 games in his career, so he's shown a propensity to get hurt too. Sugss is very injury prone but when healthy he's a proven nfl rb, which we don't have beyond Portis, Betts & Cartright. And let's face it, Rock will always be a tough 2nd or 3rd string guy who has to make the team playing special teams.

08-16-2006, 04:11 PM	#20
bridaman51 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Roanoke Virginia Age: 40 Posts: 335	Re: Jets Add Suggs Suggs a proven NFL RB? Are you kidding me? In his 3 years he has totaled 1048 yards rushing, and 4 rushing TD's, He has also lost 4 fumbles. The only season he had even close to resembling a running back season was 2004 when he rushed for 744 yards and 2 TD but lost 3 Fumbles that year.

08-17-2006, 08:35 AM	#23
bridaman51 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Roanoke Virginia Age: 40 Posts: 335	Re: Jets Add Suggs You can get those kind of numbers with just about any kind of 2nd or 3rd string running back. The only proven thing here is that he cant stay healthy and even if he did he is nothing more than a 3rd stringer. just because you play in the NFL does not make you a proven NFL player.

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