Gildon

itvnetop · 06-02-2004, 09:06 PM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.html

Says we're interested... how much you guys think he'll cost?

Mattyk · 06-02-2004, 09:08 PM

Tough to say what the market will be for a talented but aging star, he'll probably have to settle for less than what he thinks he's worth, some sort of incentive laden deal.

He's probably looking at a situational role, a third down guy.

azskinsfan2 · 06-02-2004, 09:39 PM

We've been through enough of the aging vets (Trotter/Armistead). We don't need another one that would want big bucks. Let's stick with what we've got, eh!!!!!

joecrisp · 06-02-2004, 09:47 PM

Gildon would definitely add some quality veteran depth, but at what price?

I'm sure Gregg Williams would love to have another solid linebacker to throw in the mix. It would give him some more flexibility in his use of Arrington and Washington as defensive ends-- perhaps he could sub-in Gildon as a DE and that would allow Arrington or Washington to stay upright at LB on passing downs? Williams could run a 3-4 more effectively with a corps of Washington, Barrow, Gildon and Arrington. I could see Williams pulling a Belichick move and having everybody on the front seven just shifting around until the offense gets set.

Gildon's getting old, but his veteran leadership-- like that of Barrow-- will pull this defense together, and he should still be able to provide a meaningful contribution on the field for a couple more years. As with all such veteran free agent acquisitions, as long as he doesn't create a cap mess, I think he'd be a good pickup.

skins009 · 06-02-2004, 09:59 PM

I personally believe would should stay away from Gildon. We have a new coaching staff and team and we need to create a group of players that are gonna be together for a while. At 32 its tough to know how much ling Gildon will be competitive. We really need some quality YOUNG talent on the defensive side of the ball. Especially on the d-line. I'll talk a pass.

PSUskinsfan11 · 06-02-2004, 10:13 PM

I think we should stay away from Gildon but I would LOVE to see a 3-4. L.A. Barrow Gildon and Washington......Daniels Griffin Wynn.....good lord who needs a D-line with LB's like that!!!! But if the rumors are true that Sam Adams might get the ax I would rather take the shot on him. Griffin and Adams would be a great combo at DT

Darock · 06-03-2004, 09:59 AM

We are always believed to "be interested"....

SmootSmack · 06-03-2004, 10:05 AM

Actually Darock brings up an interesting theory and I wonder if you guys think this is really true. The theory is that a lot of players and agents use the Redskins, whether they're interested or not, as a bargaining chip. "You won't give me $5 million? Well, Dan Snyder is prepared to offer me $7 million" The Redskins have built such a reputation over the past few years that it can come across as believable.

I tend to believe this actually does happen a lot and that the Skins are often inadvertent participants in negotiations

Mattyk · 06-03-2004, 12:19 PM

Seems like that's what could have happened with the Lawyer Milloy situation.

But who really knows? I'm sure owners/GM's talk with players and agents all the time when they're not supposed to and vice versa. Both parties use each other for leverage.

Carnage · 06-03-2004, 02:19 PM

I couldn't tell from the article... anyone know which linebacker position he plays?

Big C · 06-03-2004, 02:27 PM

i think hes strongside, cuz porter got most of their sacks i thought, in madden hes a LOLB

Defensewins · 06-03-2004, 02:32 PM

I say pass on Gildon as well, unless he signs for the minimum with incentives, which I doubt he will do.
The reason is.... hasn't Jason Gildon (while he has not missed many games) had knee problems the last few years? I don't want another Dave Fiore, a former great player in his 30's that is entering his injury filled years.
I agree with PSUskinsfan11, Sam Adams would be a better pick up. The DE's we have along with LB's Arrington and Washington as our nicel and dime DE's will be great. I see Dt as more of a priority for upgrade.

Big C · 06-03-2004, 03:15 PM

yes a DT would be ideal, but the DT crop isnt very deep, so picking up Gildon may be a decent option for a few years...but the only way i think hed be a good pickup is if wed switch to a 3-4 and plug him in as the 2nd middle linebacker, with mitchell to backup the 2

FRPLG · 06-03-2004, 05:54 PM

Most talent guys think Gildon has some steam left in the tank apparently. I'd bet he'll end up with a three year type deal where the first two years are low cap numbers. I'd guess probably a 2.5 million signing bonus and maybe 3 million in base salary giving him something like 1.3, 1.8, 2.3 type caps numbers. I don't think we'll be the ones to givce him the money since we just dug ourselves out from under a bad LB contract with Trotter.

joecrisp · 06-03-2004, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big C

yes a DT would be ideal, but the DT crop isnt very deep, so picking up Gildon may be a decent option for a few years...but the only way i think hed be a good pickup is if wed switch to a 3-4 and plug him in as the 2nd middle linebacker, with mitchell to backup the 2

That's pretty much what I'm thinking, too. At the very least, he'd be a great insurance policy should (God forbid!) Arrington or Washington go down.

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06-02-2004, 09:39 PM	#3
azskinsfan2 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tucson, Arizona Age: 55 Posts: 232	We've been through enough of the aging vets (Trotter/Armistead). We don't need another one that would want big bucks. Let's stick with what we've got, eh!!!!! __________________ Long live Sonny J!!! Rock on Redskins!!!!!!

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06-02-2004, 09:08 PM	#2
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 73,203	Tough to say what the market will be for a talented but aging star, he'll probably have to settle for less than what he thinks he's worth, some sort of incentive laden deal. He's probably looking at a situational role, a third down guy.

06-02-2004, 09:47 PM	#4
joecrisp The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Charlottesville, VA Age: 37 Posts: 1,501	Gildon would definitely add some quality veteran depth, but at what price? I'm sure Gregg Williams would love to have another solid linebacker to throw in the mix. It would give him some more flexibility in his use of Arrington and Washington as defensive ends-- perhaps he could sub-in Gildon as a DE and that would allow Arrington or Washington to stay upright at LB on passing downs? Williams could run a 3-4 more effectively with a corps of Washington, Barrow, Gildon and Arrington. I could see Williams pulling a Belichick move and having everybody on the front seven just shifting around until the offense gets set. Gildon's getting old, but his veteran leadership-- like that of Barrow-- will pull this defense together, and he should still be able to provide a meaningful contribution on the field for a couple more years. As with all such veteran free agent acquisitions, as long as he doesn't create a cap mess, I think he'd be a good pickup.

06-02-2004, 09:59 PM	#5
skins009 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 528	I personally believe would should stay away from Gildon. We have a new coaching staff and team and we need to create a group of players that are gonna be together for a while. At 32 its tough to know how much ling Gildon will be competitive. We really need some quality YOUNG talent on the defensive side of the ball. Especially on the d-line. I'll talk a pass.

06-02-2004, 10:13 PM	#6
PSUskinsfan11 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: the port, PA Age: 28 Posts: 692	I think we should stay away from Gildon but I would LOVE to see a 3-4. L.A. Barrow Gildon and Washington......Daniels Griffin Wynn.....good lord who needs a D-line with LB's like that!!!! But if the rumors are true that Sam Adams might get the ax I would rather take the shot on him. Griffin and Adams would be a great combo at DT

06-03-2004, 09:59 AM	#7
Darock Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 31	We are always believed to "be interested"....

06-03-2004, 12:19 PM	#9
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 73,203	Seems like that's what could have happened with the Lawyer Milloy situation. But who really knows? I'm sure owners/GM's talk with players and agents all the time when they're not supposed to and vice versa. Both parties use each other for leverage.

06-03-2004, 02:19 PM	#10
Carnage Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 465	I couldn't tell from the article... anyone know which linebacker position he plays?

06-03-2004, 02:27 PM	#11
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Fairfax, Virginia Age: 27 Posts: 4,423	i think hes strongside, cuz porter got most of their sacks i thought, in madden hes a LOLB

06-03-2004, 02:32 PM	#12
Defensewins Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 2,760	I say pass on Gildon as well, unless he signs for the minimum with incentives, which I doubt he will do. The reason is.... hasn't Jason Gildon (while he has not missed many games) had knee problems the last few years? I don't want another Dave Fiore, a former great player in his 30's that is entering his injury filled years. I agree with PSUskinsfan11, Sam Adams would be a better pick up. The DE's we have along with LB's Arrington and Washington as our nicel and dime DE's will be great. I see Dt as more of a priority for upgrade.

06-03-2004, 03:15 PM	#13
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Fairfax, Virginia Age: 27 Posts: 4,423	yes a DT would be ideal, but the DT crop isnt very deep, so picking up Gildon may be a decent option for a few years...but the only way i think hed be a good pickup is if wed switch to a 3-4 and plug him in as the 2nd middle linebacker, with mitchell to backup the 2

06-03-2004, 05:54 PM	#14
FRPLG Franchise Player Join Date: May 2004 Age: 34 Posts: 9,293	Most talent guys think Gildon has some steam left in the tank apparently. I'd bet he'll end up with a three year type deal where the first two years are low cap numbers. I'd guess probably a 2.5 million signing bonus and maybe 3 million in base salary giving him something like 1.3, 1.8, 2.3 type caps numbers. I don't think we'll be the ones to givce him the money since we just dug ourselves out from under a bad LB contract with Trotter.

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