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Time to bench Brunell? (Mega Man Merge)

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View Poll Results: Is it time to bench Brunell?
Yes 141 61.84%
Give him another week 37 16.23%
Give him a few more weeks 35 15.35%
No 15 6.58%
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Old 09-18-2006, 01:33 AM   #16
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Re: Time to bench Brunell?

where do you weigh in at matty?
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Old 09-18-2006, 01:33 AM   #17
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Re: Bench Brunell

The whole offense looks out of synch right now, even to the point that I don't know if Gibbs and Saunders have really figured out how they playcalling will work. My gut is that there were several instances today, and on Monday where Gibbs wanted to overrule a Saunders call but was reluctant to. But Dockery can't pass block, the right side can't run block. Betts and Duckett look like they're running in slow motion (no more talk about Portis being just a system back please); the receivers are running 8 yard routes on 3rd and 9; Cooley is not cool, he's just ey (thank you Gmanc711 for that fine piece of writing there); Brunell is throwing floaters...nothing is clicking right now.

And I suppose the easy answer is put in a QB with absolutely no game experience because we're 0-2. He'll probably get destroyed though, it would potentially be more damaging to his psyche to do that to him. Then again, who knows. He does seem a lot tougher mentally than a certain other young QB we just traded away this offseason.
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Old 09-18-2006, 01:35 AM   #18
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Re: Time to bench Brunell?

Tonight was horrible but I'm trying to look at the entire picture here.

The OL was awful. It was a jail break everytime Brunell dropped back.

The playcalling was subpar. Run on first down, run on second, bingo third and long.

And what's with all the outside runs? Just doesn't seem to mesh very well with the kind of guys we have up front. I guess the counters and power runs are gone.

The offense as a whole from the coaches on down needs improving. I really don't see where replacing one guy is going to make any real difference right now.

Our best shot at improving is to ride this out for a few more weeks at least.
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Old 09-18-2006, 01:36 AM   #19
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Re: Time to bench Brunell?

Right now I'm at the wait another week point. Brunell has played pretty poorly the past two games, but if he stinks it up against the Texans it will just confirm that he sucks, really really bad. I'm willing to give him a chance just because he hasn't had Portis back there the past two games. If he stinks it up next week vs. the Texans, it's time to put in Campbell. Brunell will either be retired, playing for another team, or being our backup quarterback after this season, because there's no way in hell we're going to sit Jason Campbell for 3 seasons in a row to give him time to learn. If Brunell stinks it up next week, put in Campbell, let him take his lumps and learn along the way.
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Old 09-18-2006, 01:38 AM   #20
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Re: Time to bench Brunell?

I'll post what I wrote in another thread:

The whole offense looks out of synch right now, even to the point that I don't know if Gibbs and Saunders have really figured out how they playcalling will work. My gut is that there were several instances today, and on Monday where Gibbs wanted to overrule a Saunders call but was reluctant to. But Dockery can't pass block, the right side can't run block. Betts and Duckett look like they're running in slow motion (no more talk about Portis being just a system back please); the receivers are running 8 yard routes on 3rd and 9; Cooley is not cool, he's just ey (thank you Gmanc711 for that fine piece of writing there); Brunell is throwing floaters...nothing is clicking right now.

And I suppose the easy answer is put in a QB with absolutely no game experience because we're 0-2. I think Campbell will get destroyed out there, it would potentially be more damaging to his psyche to do that to him. Then again, who knows. He does seem a lot tougher mentally than a certain other young QB we just traded away this offseason.

One thing I would do is make JC the backup for all games, not Collins. Maybe you do like the Titans are doing with Vince Young. Let Campbell play a couple of series. Especially if the game is out of hand. I don't think he's ready to start though, especially the way the team is as a whole right now.
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Old 09-18-2006, 01:42 AM   #21
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Re: Bench Brunell

cambell has the agility to make rushers miss and the arm to get the pass where it needs to be. archuleta sucks and so does andre carter wtf man! i am pissed!
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Re: Time to bench Brunell?

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Im not so sure that alot of the pass rush isn't caused by the QB play. Not all of it, but he hangs on too long alot of the time and wears out his O-line. And throwing a pick when they bring 8 guys and you have 3 guys running routes in unnacceptable...(even though it got called back). You should have a slant route open and running for 6.

They know he's not that fast and they took advantage to the max...
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Old 09-18-2006, 01:46 AM   #23
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Im not so sure that alot of the pass rush isn't caused by the QB play. Not all of it, but he hangs on too long alot of the time and wears out his O-line. And throwing a pick when they bring 8 guys and you have 3 guys running routes in unnacceptable...(even though it got called back). You should have a slant route open and running for 6.

They know he's not that fast and they took advantage to the max...
Good points. I think Dockery has regressed big time and I've never been a huge fan of Samuels admittedly.
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Old 09-18-2006, 01:51 AM   #24
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Re: Time to bench Brunell?

I'm really starting to lose paitence. I mean the offensive line did not play well, I'm not going to let them off the hook here....

But damn, Brunell just looked awful. I mean when Dallas blitzes 8 guys, SOMEONE has to be open...SOMEONE is one on one, there has to be a check route or something. I mean he missed open recivers, he taking too long in the pocket, he's playing scared, he would throw the ball too quickly somtimes. Overall he just dosent look comfrotable at all; and really looks like he's hurt somewhere in there.

Were still 0-2, so I dont really know what to say; I dont know first hand how Campbell has grasped this offense and if putting him out there would be feeding him to the woods, so I could understand Brunell being in there another short string of games (not that I think he desreves to be)...but I can tolerate him starting next week...but if were in Houston struggling with him, I put Campbell in before the games end and we start things with him. In addition, if in the middle of October were 2-5...its Campbell time right there.

Someone mentioned Favre...and I am not the biggest fan of him; but I've heard crazier things and Snyder might be the only owner in the leauge who'd do that.
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I give him one more half against Houston... if we're looking the same against that Defense, a shakeup is needed (even if it's not totally on the QB, a change may spark something).
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i'll agree I've scratched my head over the Samuels pro-bowls a time or two...
Especially last year in the cheifs game, and I've always thought dockery was a bad player... flat out.
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Re: Time to bench Brunell?

The chance of winning the division is slowly slipping away. With the NFC additions in FA and other teams utilizing the draft wiser than the skins have playoffs spots rather Wildcard is going to go fast and to teams that will probably have 10 wins. I am not seeing how we can be one of those teams.

Benching Brunell- is throwing in the towel for this season. There is no hope without him this early. That is unsatisfactory to me.

To do that,what are they telling players by that action? Thanks for all the hard work you put in but this club is going nowhere fast.

Sure it be good/bad if Brunell would announce Monday that he is retiring. It would do more probably for this team only for the cap.

Next year is a long way off to sit through all the humiliation from peers and simply watching the skins play. This isnt even the tough part of the schedule mind you.

This is just terrible- to have so much money into the team and so many posistions still needed. I think we need quality run stopping DT's, OL(LG,C,wut is going on with our Tackles?, and hardest of all is...Al to call plays that can be executed.

He may be knowledgable I will give him that but it is evident he has no insight as to the what is demanded from Mark and the line. Bringing him in seems to have given him free reign to change our identity. This has always been a run first team, I am so embarrassed right now how the cards are fallling. Looking at Marks history he in his Heyday was a rollout/mobile passer. Reading coverages and looking downfield has never been his strong points. In this offense that is what is being asked 3,4,5 wide no dumpoffs is ridiculous. Its worse b/c O-Line is being bombarded is blitzes but sadly what is reoccuring for a reason is they simply are guilty on those 3 or 4 man rushes. Nothing will change to get us back on track this year, period

Next week@ Texans 1pm ET FOX
10/1 vs. Jaguars 4:15pm ET CBS
10/8 @ Giants 1pm ET FOX
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10/22 @ Colts 4:15pm ET FOX
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If this is our schedule I am thinking if this is us healthy we may get lucky and be 8-8. Im so disappointed and hurting over this.
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Old 09-18-2006, 01:57 AM   #28
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Gotdam right........
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Re: Time to bench Brunell?

this is the downside from not building through the draft and developing young talent into your system and having it be the only system they know....

just look at teams like the Pats and Steelers and Jags... most consistant successful teams do just that.
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Old 09-18-2006, 02:05 AM   #30
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Re: Time to bench Brunell?

Brunell fuckin sux period.... TIME MY ASS ..BEEN TIME
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