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Time to bench Brunell? (Mega Man Merge)

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View Poll Results: Is it time to bench Brunell?
Yes 141 61.84%
Give him another week 37 16.23%
Give him a few more weeks 35 15.35%
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Old 09-25-2006, 01:47 PM   #511
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Ummm... I know sarcasm is tough to pick up over the internet, but try to follow the context of the comment a little bit, before slamming someone.
lol...that's funny!!
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Old 09-25-2006, 01:58 PM   #512
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Ummm... I know sarcasm is tough to pick up over the internet, but try to follow the context of the comment a little bit, before slamming someone.
Good call Southpaw-that sarcasm thing
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Old 09-25-2006, 02:37 PM   #513
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Well this thread went silent.
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Old 09-25-2006, 02:47 PM   #514
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I was praying that he broke the record when it was getting close. All I could think about this thread, and the Ironic punch the the face Brunell gave all the haters.
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Old 09-25-2006, 02:53 PM   #515
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I was praying that he broke the record when it was getting close. All I could think about this thread, and the Ironic punch the the face Brunell gave all the haters.
You thought that was a "punch in the face" to the haters? His performance was well suited to the game plan, but that game plan isn't going to fly against any other team on our schedule. He still has a long way to go to prove that he can lead this team.
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Old 09-25-2006, 02:54 PM   #516
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10-6 proved enough to me, but oh well.
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Old 09-25-2006, 02:59 PM   #517
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10-6 proved enough to me, but oh well.
C'mon - this is the NFL. It's not about what you have done, it's about what you can do. MB did exactly what was asked of him against Houston, and he did an incredible job for the most part. However, you can't seriously suggest that Saunders asked a lot of MB's arm. That's still the unknown, and that's what has been missing for the past 5 games (plus pre-season, which I know you don't count for some reason).
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Old 09-25-2006, 03:05 PM   #518
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C'mon - this is the NFL. It's not about what you have done, it's about what you can do. MB did exactly what was asked of him against Houston, and he did an incredible job for the most part. However, you can't seriously suggest that Saunders asked a lot of MB's arm. That's still the unknown, and that's what has been missing for the past 5 games (plus pre-season, which I know you don't count for some reason).
History plays a valid part in evaluating a player. The haters sure do love to throw 2004 in our faces, that's for sure.
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Old 09-25-2006, 03:09 PM   #519
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You thought that was a "punch in the face" to the haters? His performance was well suited to the game plan, but that game plan isn't going to fly against any other team on our schedule. He still has a long way to go to prove that he can lead this team.
The short passes to Moss and Cooley worked GREAT last year for us. Having 4 WRs rather than 1 will help open up the field for us, even if we DO forget the low % bombs for more short passes.

If we're moving the ball, I don't care what "strategy" we use.

Besides, we have guys who can turn screen and shovel passes into the BIG plays you're craving.

Brunell "threw" a 74-yard shovel pass to Portis. I'll take that.

Randel El and Moss will break plenty of big plays this year too.
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Old 09-25-2006, 03:27 PM   #520
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The short passes to Moss and Cooley worked GREAT last year for us. Having 4 WRs rather than 1 will help open up the field for us, even if we DO forget the low % bombs for more short passes.
Did you watch the last few games of last season? We surprised a lot of teams, but they quickly caught on. Our defense kept us in a lot of games, and, thus far, that isn't happening.

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If we're moving the ball, I don't care what "strategy" we use.
This strategy won't work against anyone else we play this year (maybe the Titans).

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Besides, we have guys who can turn screen and shovel passes into the BIG plays you're craving.
lol - I "crave" wins, not big plays.

Wins come from a pounding running game, which open up the passing game. If all of the passes are 5 yard screens, teams are going to catch on.


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Brunell "threw" a 74-yard shovel pass to Portis. I'll take that.
No, Brunell "threw" a 2-yard shovel pass to Portis. Portis ran through the swiss cheese defense of the Texans for another 72 yards.


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Randel El and Moss will break plenty of big plays this year too.
Why do you want to put all of the pressure on our WRs and RBs to "make big plays"? Doesn't anyone think part of the responsibility is on Brunell to be able to complete the big pass?
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Old 09-25-2006, 04:37 PM   #521
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did the Texan game say more about them or us? have we grown, or have they regressed?

really can't say anything till next week. let's put this thread on hold until then.
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did the Texan game say more about them or us? have we grown, or have they regressed?

really can't say anything till next week. let's put this thread on hold until then.
Well said.
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Old 09-25-2006, 05:17 PM   #523
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I was praying that he broke the record when it was getting close. All I could think about this thread, and the Ironic punch the the face Brunell gave all the haters.
Punch in the face is an understatement...I call that performance A BITCH SLAP!
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Old 09-25-2006, 05:31 PM   #524
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This strategy won't work against anyone else we play this year (maybe the Titans).
Which is why Al Saunders has stated that he doesn't run the same plays in every game.




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Wins come from a pounding running game, which open up the passing game. If all of the passes are 5 yard screens, teams are going to catch on.
Yes, wins come from time of possession and pounding the ball, but not all the passes were 5 yard passes in this game. Again, whatever works, you keep doing it until the defense stops it.





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Why do you want to put all of the pressure on our WRs and RBs to "make big plays"? Doesn't anyone think part of the responsibility is on Brunell to be able to complete the big pass?
Well of course, but if the QB doesn't have to throw it deep to pick up a win, why do it? For thrills? If the team you're playing can't stop the high percentage passes, why stop throwing them? We know that there are going to be other teams who will defend much more effectively, but again, you keep with what works until someone shuts it down. Just be patient....
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Old 09-25-2006, 07:38 PM   #525
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You thought that was a "punch in the face" to the haters? His performance was well suited to the game plan, but that game plan isn't going to fly against any other team on our schedule. He still has a long way to go to prove that he can lead this team.
Isn't that what makes a team win?

If I'm correct you're saying that Brunell isn't suited for a gameplan that involves downfield passing. Heres the thing.

1) You can't use the first two games to gauge Mark Brunells downfield pass ability.

2) You can use last year, to see that Mark Brunell can throw the ball downfield. The second he didn't have any receivers, or the receivers that he had were in double coverage, he flopped.

3) Brunell has proven that when he the rest of the team is solid, so is he. He has collapsed when given an inconsistent team, and that makes sense. His job is to get the ball to the playmakers... and when they dont make plays... the blame comes crashing down.

Brunell is the best choice we have.
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