Warpath  

Home | Forums | Salary Cap Info | Shop | Donate | Stay Connected




Go Back   Warpath > Redskins Forums > Redskins Locker Room


Let's talk defense

Redskins Locker Room


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-18-2006, 03:07 PM   #46
I like big (_|_)s.
 
TheMalcolmConnection's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Lexington, Virginia
Age: 32
Posts: 17,524
Re: Let's talk defense

I was wondering that as well. The Ade is really WORSE than Wright or Rumph in coverage?
__________________
Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.
TheMalcolmConnection is offline   Reply With Quote

Advertisements
Old 09-18-2006, 03:08 PM   #47
JET
Camp Scrub
 
JET's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Md
Age: 40
Posts: 81
Re: Let's talk defense

Quote:
Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz View Post
I hope I can make it across the border. I hope to see my friend, and shake his hand. I hope the Pacific is as blue as it has been in my dreams. I hope.
You know the Skins are hurting when you have to pull out a Shawshank quote.
JET is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2006, 03:14 PM   #48
Impact Rookie
 
hurrykaine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Washington, D.C.
Age: 41
Posts: 762
Re: Let's talk defense

The D has lost its mystique. If we can't sack the most immobile QBs (Johnson and Bledsoe), then its worrisome.

If David Carr shreds our D (Springs playing or not), then I'm hugely worried.

I understand losing a guy like Prioleau (while he's no game changer) was huge since he knows the scheme so well. Bringing in Archuletta (@ $10 million in guaranteed money) for Ryan Clark was a huge mistake. Hate to say it, but even Walt Harris would have been better than the no good Kenny Wright.
hurrykaine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2006, 03:15 PM   #49
I like big (_|_)s.
 
TheMalcolmConnection's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Lexington, Virginia
Age: 32
Posts: 17,524
Re: Let's talk defense

Stupid hindsight. Always being 20/20.
__________________
Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.
TheMalcolmConnection is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2006, 03:39 PM   #50
Pro Bowl
 
Beemnseven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Virginia Beach
Age: 40
Posts: 5,293
Re: Let's talk defense

Quote:
Originally Posted by hurrykaine View Post
The D has lost its mystique. If we can't sack the most immobile QBs (Johnson and Bledsoe), then its worrisome.

If David Carr shreds our D (Springs playing or not), then I'm hugely worried.

I understand losing a guy like Prioleau (while he's no game changer) was huge since he knows the scheme so well. Bringing in Archuletta (@ $10 million in guaranteed money) for Ryan Clark was a huge mistake. Hate to say it, but even Walt Harris would have been better than the no good Kenny Wright.

Exactly! Didn't we hear all week long how Dallas' offensive line wasn't as good as Minnesota's ? And that the pressure on the statue-like Bledsoe would be a different story?

And to think Wright was a sixteen game starter for Jacksonville last year.

At some point you'd think Snyderatto would get a clue: Teams don't let go of players they want to keep. There's a reason why the Jags didn't fight to keep him. And we're seeing the same thing with Andre Carter.
Beemnseven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2006, 03:41 PM   #51
I like big (_|_)s.
 
TheMalcolmConnection's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Lexington, Virginia
Age: 32
Posts: 17,524
Re: Let's talk defense

Yes, Dallas's offensive line isn't that bad honestly. Jacksonville hardly got pressure.
__________________
Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.
TheMalcolmConnection is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2006, 03:45 PM   #52
The Starter
 
Southpaw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: So. MD
Age: 35
Posts: 1,318
Re: Let's talk defense

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beemnseven View Post
At some point you'd think Snyderatto would get a clue: Teams don't let go of players they want to keep. There's a reason why the Jags didn't fight to keep him. And we're seeing the same thing with Andre Carter.
Snyderatto can't comprehend this, because it doesn't think that way. I.E. Champ Bailey, Antonio Pierce, Stephen Davis, Fred Smoot, and eventually Chris Samuels, Jon Jansen, Clinton Portis, Santanna Moss, and Sean Taylor.
Southpaw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2006, 03:46 PM   #53
F the Shannys

 
CrazyCanuck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,881
Re: Let's talk defense

I agree with pretty much everything you guys said.

OUR DEFENSE SUCKS.

Our line is average at best and our secondary is brutal. Wow the Prioleau injury really hurt us (and Springs obviously). However injuries happen all the time. And it's not like Springs is a spring chicken (sorry) who has never been hurt before.

I just can't believe how thin this team is. I mean Rumph, Wright, Fox, Golston...who the hell are these guys? And like Tafkas said - where the hell is the Ade????? Seriously where is he?????? I thought the guy was actually becoming a pretty good player last year and now he doesn't even see the field with this bunch of stiffs out there? Archuleta definitely looks like a bust, wish we had Clark and some money back. And I hate to pick on Taylor since he's our only decent guy back there but I'm really not impressed with his "ball hawk" skills. The guy is a great hitter and puts fear in the opposing offense, but when it comes to coverage (especially deep) he always seems out of place and late on the play. That deep ball in the Dallas game was definitely his fault from what I could see.

We can talk about the offense, Saunders, Brunell as much as we want but right now I think the defense is definitely our biggest problem.
CrazyCanuck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2006, 03:51 PM   #54
Pro Bowl
 
Beemnseven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Virginia Beach
Age: 40
Posts: 5,293
Re: Let's talk defense

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection View Post
Yes, Dallas's offensive line isn't that bad honestly. Jacksonville hardly got pressure.
Well, they're better. The Jags still got two sacks.

Doesn't say much for our line though, the way many people were talking about them.
Beemnseven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2006, 05:09 PM   #55
Impact Rookie
 
VTSkins897's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Richmond, VA
Age: 31
Posts: 890
Re: Let's talk defense

it's depressing. i'm gonna stay away from the news until sunday.
VTSkins897 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2006, 09:56 PM   #56
Camp Scrub
 
4skins23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Northern Illinois
Age: 41
Posts: 5
Re: Let's talk defense

Why is it I just got accused of being a Cowgirls fan when I started saying our Defense is Terrible -compared to last year but you guys are talking all bout the same point I was trying to make?

Our Offense has problems,but our Defense has /and is a bigger problem right now. Defense wins Championships. If ours keeps playing this way we won't be there. Overall I'd say we have lots of problems to address. Offense and Defense. We have loads of talent, but we don't seem to be playing as a team...
4skins23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2006, 10:14 PM   #57
Franchise Player
 
Sheriff Gonna Getcha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 35
Posts: 8,317
Re: Let's talk defense

Our defense will rebound. I'm not terribly worried about the defense. It's looked bad, very bad, but I simply do not believe that GW will be unable to turn things around. GW deserves the benefit of the doubt.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2006, 10:17 PM   #58
Playmaker
 
gibbsisgod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: 129 W 81st street
Age: 35
Posts: 3,503
Re: Let's talk defense

If we get a lead then maybe GW could take some more chances. He cant be as aggressive because he knows if it backfires our O cant score to make up for it.
gibbsisgod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2006, 10:30 PM   #59
Playmaker
 
SouperMeister's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Leesburg, VA
Age: 50
Posts: 3,094
Re: Let's talk defense

[-- Drafting Rocky was a mistake. The same mentality the coaching staff has with regard to Mark Brunell, equally applied to Shawn Springs. They blindly thought they could endlessly rely on him, and now it's come back to bite them.
[/quote]
Beemer - let's give Rocky a chance to prove himself once the coaches are confident he's ready to start. He looks much more athletic than Holdman, and will probably have the starting job by midseason if the D doesn't improve.
SouperMeister is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2006, 10:41 PM   #60
Playmaker
 
SouperMeister's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Leesburg, VA
Age: 50
Posts: 3,094
Re: Let's talk defense

Quote:
Originally Posted by Southpaw View Post
Snyderatto can't comprehend this, because it doesn't think that way. I.E. Champ Bailey, Antonio Pierce, Stephen Davis, Fred Smoot, and eventually Chris Samuels, Jon Jansen, Clinton Portis, Santanna Moss, and Sean Taylor.
The biggest problem is that Snyder overpays for average talent and then doesn't have the cap space to keep his core group intact. Arrington never warrented Ray Lewis money, but Snyder all but ensured that we'd lose the #1 cover corner in the league (Champ) by overpaying for LaVar. I'm concerned that the money he gave Archuletta will make it much more difficult to retain Taylor when his contract us up. It also shocks me how little regard Gibbs has for the draft. People say that was his preference first time around, but I recall the Skins drafting a TON of their core players that were so crucial to the glory years, especially the original Hogs. I just can't see sustaining a winner without building inexpensive depth and eventual core studs thru the draft.
SouperMeister is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:01 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site is not officially affiliated with the Washington Redskins or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.28132 seconds with 9 queries

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25