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Old 09-22-2006, 11:10 AM   #61
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Proven to work with the #1 O line in the league and a great QB. Neither of which we have.
our line is a bunch of underachievers and trent green wasn't great. look at him before he went to kc.... a bench warmer product of the system like collins
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Old 09-22-2006, 11:13 AM   #62
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He was the starter for the Rams until he tore his leg off in pre-season allowing Kurt Warner to come in. Up until that injury Green was the unquestioned starter in a potent offense.
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Old 09-22-2006, 11:47 AM   #63
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our line is a bunch of underachievers and trent green wasn't great. look at him before he went to kc.... a bench warmer product of the system like collins
that's incorrect. you don't get that many 4000+ yard seasons being bad. The skins really wanted to keep him here as the starter, but the ownership change screwed that up. He was the Rams starter till injury and then the chiefs starter. If you're good enough to start for three different teams and win that many more games than you lose (with a terrible defense), you're not a system QB. Which, by the way, Brunell has been accused of on many occassions in jacksonville, before he ended up on the bench for good there.
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Old 09-22-2006, 11:55 AM   #64
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Green is a quality QB. We'd be lucky to have a QB of his caliber for as many years as he's played. It would have been nice if we could have kept him long ago.
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Old 09-22-2006, 12:03 PM   #65
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Yeah, too bad Martz took him when he left us. I didn't realize at the time how good he was despite his last year with us. Of course at that time we had the Frerotte, Rosenfells, Green and I guess the end of the Shuler era. So much QB inconsistency back then (and now).
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Yeah, too bad Martz took him when he left us. I didn't realize at the time how good he was despite his last year with us. Of course at that time we had the Frerotte, Rosenfells, Green and I guess the end of the Shuler era. So much QB inconsistency back then (and now).
we had rosenfels in 2001...green left in 98
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Green is a quality QB. We'd be lucky to have a QB of his caliber for as many years as he's played. It would have been nice if we could have kept him long ago.
The fans in DC were too busy looking for a scapegoat for the all the teams problems so they put it all on Green and ditched him.

Hey, sounds familiar doesn't it?
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Old 09-22-2006, 06:09 PM   #68
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The fans in DC were too busy looking for a scapegoat for the all the teams problems so they put it all on Green and ditched him.

Hey, sounds familiar doesn't it?
the team WANTED TO KEEP HIM. the uncertainty over the ownership is why he left. so much revisionist history for one thread.
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Old 09-22-2006, 09:44 PM   #69
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the team WANTED TO KEEP HIM. the uncertainty over the ownership is why he left. so much revisionist history for one thread.
But what you said makes my point a lot less relevant for the present...
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we had rosenfels in 2001...green left in 98
correct...The number 2 qb when trent green was in washington was Former Giant and Former Raider Jeff Hostetler #15
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I think it's safe to say that everyone is on edge at Redskins Park right now, and I'm sure there has been some sleep deprived nights from the coaches trying to get this figured out.
I wonder how much ball breaking D. Snyder is doing. Obviously, it is impossible to know what the reality is, but I think it is pretty clear that he doesn't put up with spectacular failure.

Also, look at the statements that hive been made by Brunell, Gibbs and Saunders -- especially Gibbs.

Gibbs has been very, very careful at how he talks about #8. Very careful. Brunell has been very, very defensive.

My spidey sense tells me that Gibbs real view of the QB play is different from the impression he has been creating.
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I wonder how much ball breaking D. Snyder is doing. Obviously, it is impossible to know what the reality is, but I think it is pretty clear that he doesn't put up with spectacular failure.

Also, look at the statements that hive been made by Brunell, Gibbs and Saunders -- especially Gibbs.

Gibbs has been very, very careful at how he talks about #8. Very careful. Brunell has been very, very defensive.

My spidey sense tells me that Gibbs real view of the QB play is different from the impression he has been creating.
yet we had to wade through 9 weeks of terrible QB play in 2004 before a benching.
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I wonder how much ball breaking D. Snyder is doing. Obviously, it is impossible to know what the reality is, but I think it is pretty clear that he doesn't put up with spectacular failure.

Also, look at the statements that hive been made by Brunell, Gibbs and Saunders -- especially Gibbs.

Gibbs has been very, very careful at how he talks about #8. Very careful. Brunell has been very, very defensive.

My spidey sense tells me that Gibbs real view of the QB play is different from the impression he has been creating.
Can you really see Snyder breaking Gibbs' balls, or anyone else on this staff??

I really don't see that happening at all.
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as far as coaching staffs, i dont see snyder saying anything to any of them. besides, i think gibbs gets carte blanche with snyder
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Old 09-23-2006, 02:23 PM   #75
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as far as coaching staffs, i dont see snyder saying anything to any of them. besides, i think gibbs gets carte blanche with snyder
Maybe he should say something, we have the most overpaid coaching staff in history at this point. Something...ANYTHING needs to be done to turn this around.
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