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Old 09-25-2006, 11:02 AM   #46
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It's Brunell. Portis and Betts both had great games, Brunells accuracy was the key.
Accuracy? 95% of his passes were either shuffle passes or 5 yard screens. Those are gimmes, especially against a D like Houston.
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Old 09-25-2006, 11:09 AM   #47
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What exactly is a shuffle pass??
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Old 09-25-2006, 11:14 AM   #49
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MVP is Brunell. Whether they are 5 yard passes, screens, or bombs, 22 in a row is nothing to scoff at. He needed to step up against a weak team, and did so. If the option would have been Portis/Betts, I would have voted for them as a whole. 32 carries, 210 yards rushing and 3 of our 4 TDs.

OLine had too many breakdowns to be considered MVP, even with a weak Texan pass rush.
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What exactly is a shuffle pass??
snap culture: January 2005

Take your pick...shuffle or shovel. I usually let Google be the tiebreaker, so I'll go with shovel.
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I've always referred to it as a shovel pass, never heard of shuffle until today.
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I've always thought it was shuffle pass.
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i always thought it was "Pash Rush"

different commentators say different things. straight arm/stiff arm etc.
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I've always referred to it as a shovel pass, never heard of shuffle until today.
Sounds like it's time for a poll...winner takes all!
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Portis adds a dimension to this offense that makes it much more difficult to defend so he gets my vote for his 100+yard performance. Brunell did a fantastic job too, and the O-line held it's own albeit for a pretty short passing game, not to mention all the penalties. With Portis healthy and the receivers coming into their own, if the O-line can hold their blocks and play more disciplined, this offense will improve more and more each week. How do you defend against a good running game, the dink and dunks that could go 30+ yards, and then you know it's just a matter of time before we start taking shots down the field when teams start to put 7-8 in the box.

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SHUFFLE pass doesn't even make sense.
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SHUFFLE pass doesn't even make sense.
You are correct:

shovel pass

One entry found for shovel pass. Main Entry: shovel pass
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: a short underhand pass (as in football)
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On the topic of the shovel pass. I remember they ran that play in Goalline against the Giants at Fedex in 2004 with Ramsey at QB. Later when Goerge Micheal or someone was congratulating Gibbs he said, "That's a Coach Breaux play." Granted, Saunders must have a shovel pass in his vaunted playbook as well. At 700 pages what could he not have?

That and the use of alot of bunch-type formations yesterday may be an indication that Saunders is open to input from the other coaches. Bunch formations are considered Gibbs' great contribution to the passing portion of this style offense. It makes the reads and progressions alot easier because the QB doesn't have to see the whole field.

Of course I could be grasping at straws. Saunders may be an absolute autocrat for all I know.
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isn't the WR screen a big holdover from last year's Gibbs coordinated offense?
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isn't the WR screen a big holdover from last year's Gibbs coordinated offense?
Yes, and before Gibbs, Spurrier. There weren't a whole lot of WR screens being run "up here" before Spurrier revived the concept for Rod Gardner. Now they're as common as dirt.
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