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Old 09-25-2006, 09:44 AM   #61
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not insults im trying to be realist not going overboard on beating probaly the worst team in football. we will probably do this again against the titan and that proves nothing. i hope this is a turn around game for the skins but i'm in the wait and see mode. show me something in three of the next four weeks against the jags,giants which stink and the colts. i thought we might at best at the break be 4-3 now i hope its not 2-5. its great that he completed 22 in a row but only about 5 were across the line of scrimmage you can be the texans and titans that way but against a good team i think were going to have to do more lets hope im wrong.but like i said show me enough talking about it. hail to the skins and mark great game and trent green did a great job here talking over for gus ferrotten when we were o-6.
Uhhh....same Texans that had the Eagles by the throat two weeks ago. Same Texans that Peyton didn't connect for 22 in a row.

Look, these guys aren't the Steelers, but they sure as hell 'aint USC either.
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Old 09-25-2006, 09:45 AM   #62
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While I give Brunell props for putting together an impressive amount of completions in a row, what I did notice is that only about six of his passes were actually over the line of scrimmage. From your list, it looks like more like eight were over the LoS, which is fine against the Texans, who tackle like a bunch of retarded bean bags, but I don't think the wide receiver screen will be nearly as effective against Jacksonville.

If this performance helped Brunell get his confidence back, I'll eat a plate full of crow, and root for him, but I'll hold my final judgement until after the next two games.
South, no need to wait til next week to eat crow. But some props are at least in order for he did yesterday.
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While I give Brunell props for putting together an impressive amount of completions in a row, what I did notice is that only about six of his passes were actually over the line of scrimmage. From your list, it looks like more like eight were over the LoS, which is fine against the Texans, who tackle like a bunch of retarded bean bags, but I don't think the wide receiver screen will be nearly as effective against Jacksonville.

If this performance helped Brunell get his confidence back, I'll eat a plate full of crow, and root for him, but I'll hold my final judgement until after the next two games.
i will join you in that hypothetical plate, and comparing Brunell's lateral/shovel pass completions with P.Manning's is kinda ridiculous (sorry CP), it only takes Peyton 3-4 completions to get in the endzone.
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Old 09-25-2006, 09:51 AM   #64
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South, no need to wait til next week to eat crow. But some props are at least in order for he did yesterday.
I'll admit that he performed better than anyone expected. In fact, I'm sure Brunell didn't think he was going to break an NFL record yesterday, but I won't jump on the Brunell bandwagon, simply because he looked decent against the worst defense in the league. If he looks half as good against the Jags and Giants, I'll be first in line for some deep fried crow.
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South, no need to wait til next week to eat crow. But some props are at least in order for he did yesterday.
yes, props are due for Brunell managing that game like the vet he is.
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Old 09-25-2006, 09:56 AM   #66
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With the kind of guys we have, the short stuff makes sense. Randel El and Moss are both like punt returners in the open field. Nobody wants to take them on in space.

We will need to get the ball down field more often in the coming weeks, but in this game it just wasn't necessary.
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Old 09-25-2006, 10:01 AM   #67
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And Gibbs said as much in his post game presser. He was asked if the lack of long throws was by design. He said it was, given what they thought would work against the Texans D. Mark executed that game plan perfectly. What's he supposed to do, ignore the game plan and throw long? Also, props to Saunders for coming up with a plan that worked, given our skill players.

Sure, it's going to be a different ball of wax against Jax, but that doesn't take away from the play of Brunnell against the Texans.
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Old 09-25-2006, 11:17 AM   #68
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MB had a great game no doubt. It is an impressive accomplishment, nobody has ever done it before and there have been alot of crappy teams out there. So no matter who it is or how you do it, it's pretty amazing.

And yes, i was a basher last week and i still have concerns that about the "downfield" thing, but props to MB!!
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Old 09-25-2006, 12:01 PM   #69
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The Skins had a game plan and came in and did something they haven't this year: executed.

Mad props to #8 for doing so and doing so in a way that no one had ever done before.

That said, what does this particular game plan really say?

-Does it say that the coaching staff does not want MB throwing deep?
-Is this a game plan that will survive the Jags defense?
-How much of what happened against the Texans was due to #26 being on the field?

If you view a -3 to 5 yard pass (distance down the field before the catch) as merely an extension of the running game, then yesterday the Skins ran 95%+.

Another area of excellance was 3rd down. This is a 3rd down league. The first two games, 3rd down ratios on both sides of the ball were bottom 5. Yesterday, they were top 5.

Finally, for all the problems this year, at least we aren't the Giants. Giant fan has some serious problems to deal with.
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Old 09-25-2006, 12:28 PM   #70
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I think the coaches realised we didnt have to throw deep to win the game! We did what we had to do to move the ball against the Houston D. The few balls we did throw deep were completions and pretty throws. Brunell looked poised and comfortable, this was just what he needed to raise his confidence. Although im sure these short routes will not slay the Jags D, with help from the running game again next week our offense will be just as effective. Im sure Brunell will be going deep more often and yielding excellent results!! (How great did Randel El look??)
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-Does it say that the coaching staff does not want MB throwing deep?
I believe they said they felt Houston's overly aggressive D would be susceptible to this short stuff. I don't think that necessarily says anything about their confidence in MB's downfield throwing.
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Personally I think a little more balance in terms of passing range is usually a better game plan. Aganist the Jags that would seem to be the appropriate course. I think we'll see a heavy dose of CP though. We will be run oriented against the Jags.
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-How much of what happened against the Texans was due to #26 being on the field?
From what I could tell most of the underneathe stuff was available because of a lack of quality play at the LB position. Whether that was due to their attention being on CP or I don't know. They looked like crap even when CP was out of the game.
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If you view a -3 to 5 yard pass (distance down the field before the catch) as merely an extension of the running game, then yesterday the Skins ran 95%+.
Yeah but on many of the passes the WRs had basically one guy to beat to break a big play. I'll take SM/ARE/BL with one guy to beat all the time rather than CP straight up the middle. CP will wear you down but the WRs will SCORE. It is why I love the WR screen. Best play in football. If you have an athletic WR. It is also why when we ran the play with Cooley that I screamed. That play won't be a big gainer with Cooley running it. Worst play call of the game for us I think. Take the play out of the book.
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Another area of excellance was 3rd down. This is a 3rd down league. The first two games, 3rd down ratios on both sides of the ball were bottom 5. Yesterday, they were top 5.
Great stat from Fox yesterday.
Before the game we were first in the league on 1st down and 29th and 31st respectively on 2nd and 3rd down. To me that reflects bad play calling. Your players don't just turn into suckholes after first down. Clearly you are not putting them into position to suceed with that type of drop off in production.
Better play calling on second down gave us better opportunities on third down yesterday. Kudos to the coaches on that.
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We really didn't "need" to go downfield against them. If Brunell can throw deep accurately like he did the short game, we'll be fine.
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I'm glad to say I was one of the FEW on this site that wasn't bashing him last week!!! Congrats Mark!!!
Glad to have such great company here.



His streak should've gone further too. Pass # 23 was batted at the line and pass #24 was right in Betts' chest and he dropped it.

Congrats, Mark.

I bet he'll be extra-motivated for he Jags game too.
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im hoping i have to eat crow for the rest of the year nothing would please me more than see brunell light up the league. but i dont think that going to happen. yes manning didnt complete 22 in a row because he throw the ball more than 6 yds in the air.if you had him do what brunell did im sure he could have the same thing. dont forget the texan i think had the worst pass defense going into the game not trying to be negative just realistic. brunell test is the next four weeks in he should do well against the titans and maybe the giants, lets see what he does against the jags and the colts. if he does what at least a average qb does i'll be very happy but i dont think he will. yes the coaches had him throwing screens and shovel passes is because coach gibbs want to protect his boy brunell that why. hail to the skins and hoping brunell proves me wrong i hoping that happens.
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yes the coaches had him throwing screens and shovel passes is because coach gibbs want to protect his boy brunell that why
I think they were just trying to win the game.
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