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Old 10-03-2006, 05:09 AM   #1
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Is this lame or what?

From the Washington Post: Unsung Campbell Registers High Note - washingtonpost.com

"The NFL hit Portis in the wallet. After Cartwright's 100-yard kickoff return for a touchdown Sept. 17 against Dallas, Portis raced 50 yards to congratulate Cartwright. Portis, who was inactive for that game, was notified last week that he has been fined $5,000 by the league."

Along the same lines, the 15 yard penalty sunday appears to have been for someone picking Moss up in celebration.

Okay, I have never been one for choreographed TD celebrations but, jeez, let the players show some spontaneous joy - you might find it infectous.
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Old 10-03-2006, 06:23 AM   #2
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Re: Is this lame or what?

if i were commish for a day, i'd kill that stupid rule, and give more leeway in TD celebrations.

make PI reviewable.

reverse the new onside kick rule (where 5 players must be on each side)

get rid of the inactives (where you have a 53 man roster, but not everyone is allowed to dress)

ease up on the late QB hits (300lb linemen can't always stop in 0.01 seconds) by giving some leeway to refs to decide if the guy had ANY reasonable way of stopping in time (so there's no free hits).

birds eye and QB cams (maybe as an after the fact sales item for download or dvd?)

possibly a 5 yard foul penalty for the ticky-tack crap that doesn't really deserve 15 yards.

full time refs

look into hiring at least one official NFL announcer crew, since that seems to be the biggest complaint with the product.


nothing major, but things i think might be worthwhile.
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Old 10-03-2006, 08:22 AM   #3
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Re: Is this lame or what?

That "celebration" penalty we got was total BS.

Lloyd picked up Moss, big freaking deal.

That kind of stuff happens all the time, in fact the Jags did it later in the game and didn't get flagged.

When they put this rule in place I don't think that's the kind of stuff they were looking to get rid of.

Use your head refs.
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Old 10-03-2006, 10:32 AM   #4
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Totally agree--talk about your "no fun" league. What BS. What's next--no smiling?
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Old 10-03-2006, 10:58 AM   #5
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Damn Refs are using the Redskins as an example for the rest of the league - "do this and you'll get fined"....except no one else is getting fined!!! I HATE THEM!!!
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Old 10-03-2006, 11:28 AM   #6
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The celebration penalty is designed to stop what Mathis and the other Jag-off were doing after Mathis's interception. Not to stop players from congratulating each other.
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Old 10-03-2006, 04:37 PM   #7
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From the Washington Post: Unsung Campbell Registers High Note - washingtonpost.com

"The NFL hit Portis in the wallet. After Cartwright's 100-yard kickoff return for a touchdown Sept. 17 against Dallas, Portis raced 50 yards to congratulate Cartwright. Portis, who was inactive for that game, was notified last week that he has been fined $5,000 by the league."

Along the same lines, the 15 yard penalty sunday appears to have been for someone picking Moss up in celebration.

Okay, I have never been one for choreographed TD celebrations but, jeez, let the players show some spontaneous joy - you might find it infectous.
5K for saying "congrats" after an incredible play and just 5 games for attempted murder?

I think we need ANOTHER new commish.
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Old 10-03-2006, 04:37 PM   #8
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Oh, and Portis should be allowed to wear red socks if he wants to.
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That "celebration" penalty we got was total BS.

Lloyd picked up Moss, big freaking deal.

That kind of stuff happens all the time, in fact the Jags did it later in the game and didn't get flagged.

When they put this rule in place I don't think that's the kind of stuff they were looking to get rid of.

Use your head refs.
I thought it was from lloyd picking up moss too but if you look at the replay, you will see another redskins player doing the same dance moss is doing...
Still stupid but they were doing the same crappy dance.
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Old 10-03-2006, 11:07 PM   #10
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Wow! So the penalty IS lloyd's fault! He didn't pick up Santana fast enough! ;-)

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I thought it was from lloyd picking up moss too but if you look at the replay, you will see another redskins player doing the same dance moss is doing...
Still stupid but they were doing the same crappy dance.
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Old 10-04-2006, 02:36 AM   #11
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5K for saying "congrats" after an incredible play and just 5 games for attempted murder?

I think we need ANOTHER new commish.
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Your guys mom is lame! Oh snap.
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Re: Is this lame or what?

if its not planned, then it should be OK. Portis running to congratulate Cartwright isn't worthy of a fine. and Dockery doing a horrible little dance bit isn't worthy of a penalty. as Riggo once said, lighten up baby
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This is lame. Fining these spontaneous celebraions hurts the league. The human element of the game is removed. It also stifles the passion of the players. Since Tagliabue became commissioner and FOX began producing the games, there's been a consciencious emphasis on the passionate play of the league, and the NFL replaced baseball as the national past time. Now, a player can't passionately celebrate a good play? That just stifles the heart and emotion that makes this game so great. I just hate how it can be a needless momentum killer now. The team can't rally around big plays. If the actual players can't be passionate about their play. Why would a viewer be passionate about it?
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That "celebration" penalty we got was total BS.

Lloyd picked up Moss, big freaking deal.

That kind of stuff happens all the time, in fact the Jags did it later in the game and didn't get flagged.

When they put this rule in place I don't think that's the kind of stuff they were looking to get rid of.

Use your head refs.
The penalty was because Santana was standing there posing and Clinton came and did the same thing. Not cause Lloyd picked him up. The ref said that there were two players doing the same pose so it was a penalty. I'm pretty sure it wasn't cause he got picked up, but cause Santana and Clinton were standing side by side with their arms crossed. That said, still a bs call.
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