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Old 10-04-2006, 10:08 PM   #16
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Re: 2 ex skins on the Giants D equal advantage??

CP's done well enough to deserve the benefit of the doubt. on sanatana's first run, he blocked THREE different people (kept a DE off brunell, then ran down field for two more blocks for moss). You can't doubt that he's going at 100%, and he was catching up on moss EASILY on that play, so it's not like you can't see why he might get tired playing like that.

I see saunders point that portis can get you that extra yard that betts can't, and that you call different plays (less outside runs and more RB checkdown passes) with betts in, but really, you should NEVER call out for star after he he gives you that kind of game. This should have been kept in house. Boo on saunders. gibbs would never call out his guys like that. even when portis threw him under the bus he refused to call him out publicly.
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Old 10-04-2006, 10:29 PM   #17
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Yeah, Portis spent his first two years here pounding the gut and power.
I don't think there should be any question that he would know what's best for his play at this point. What he said was very true, and someone just said it about Lavar, you get too pumped up trying to make the big play and you make a big frigging mistep.
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Old 10-04-2006, 10:30 PM   #18
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It does sound a little diva-ish, though
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Old 10-04-2006, 11:00 PM   #19
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It does sound a little diva-ish, though
In most cases you're probably right, but in Portis' case, given the frequent displays of the toughness he displays in blocking, I wouldn't question it. In a Parcells type world, you could see that egalitarian approach, where Portis "the player" would be subject to the same rules as all other players and would lose favor with the head coach for sitting out a play - but that's a different style of player management. Gibbs is different from Parcells. Gibbs knows what Clinton can and can't do, and is happy to defer to him.

Although, let me play devil's advocate and say the following: How many times in Gibbs 2.0 have you seen us sweat out the endgame because we weren't able to pick up a first down and run out the clock? Too frequent in my opinion. Given that our D is suspect at the moment, Portis should ideally not be taking plays off.
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Old 10-04-2006, 11:46 PM   #20
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portis doesns't take plays off and ends up playing like that first tampa game, averaging 1.2ypc when trying to run out the clock... that's really not a better solution.

he' done enough to earn trust, and he's still putting up stats. i'll take 10 years of this portis vs 5 of the other.
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Old 10-05-2006, 12:13 AM   #21
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My only problem is that Springs doesn't have to play the G-men on Sunday so why is he giving them ammunition? Especially to a guy who can change a game when he decides to show up once or twice a year.
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Old 10-05-2006, 05:29 AM   #22
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I can't quote exactly what LaVar said on "Inside NFL", but he said that he's happy to be a Giant because the owner and the coaches treat him right. He also stated that Redskins have no defensive scheme. Any respect I had of LaVar Arrington completely disappeared after seeing that interview.
I saw they same interview. the part about no scheme is funny. I think that only pretains to him...he played with no discipline. I cant wait to see Mike Sellers lay a block on Lavar.
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LOL no scheme

Well I guess it's true to him. When you don't know the scheme, it's hard to say what it is.

That no scheme 'D' sure has worked wonders for Gregg Williams.
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Old 10-05-2006, 08:44 AM   #24
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the only thing i find more annoying than TO whining is lavar whining. at least TO can back it up.
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Old 10-05-2006, 09:34 AM   #25
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i cant believe Dale Lindsey took a shot at Lavar. i get the feeling everyone that is on the redskins are all glad he is gone. and thatguy, what has Lavar done the last 2+ seasons? anything, but be injured and run his mouth? by the end of next season, Lavar will be out of the nfl for good.
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i cant believe Dale Lindsey took a shot at Lavar. i get the feeling everyone that is on the redskins are all glad he is gone. and thatguy, what has Lavar done the last 2+ seasons? anything, but be injured and run his mouth? by the end of next season, Lavar will be out of the nfl for good.
if you're asking for me to provide proof, i don't know why. i've already agreed that he's a very average linebacker since that injury, but no less whiny. I really don't think he merits nearly as much post count as he's consumed. I mean, it's not like we're devoting 300 posts to carlos emmons or even pierce (who's a much better player at this point).
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if you're asking for me to provide proof, i don't know why. i've already agreed that he's a very average linebacker since that injury, but no less whiny. I really don't think he merits nearly as much post count as he's consumed. I mean, it's not like we're devoting 300 posts to carlos emmons or even pierce (who's a much better player at this point).
Seriously, I thought everyone was over LaVar being gone. Who cares what he has to say?
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the only thing i find more annoying than TO whining is lavar whining. at least TO can back it up.
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i cant believe Dale Lindsey took a shot at Lavar. i get the feeling everyone that is on the redskins are all glad he is gone. and thatguy, what has Lavar done the last 2+ seasons? anything, but be injured and run his mouth? by the end of next season, Lavar will be out of the nfl for good.
I think Lindsey and LA hate each other. They had publicized shouting matches in the locker room after practices last year. I think Lindsey is the main reason LA is now gone. He didn't like him and couldn't get him to play the scheme and LA got pissy and then..and then... blah blah.
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I think Lindsey and LA hate each other. They had publicized shouting matches in the locker room after practices last year. I think Lindsey is the main reason LA is now gone. He didn't like him and couldn't get him to play the scheme and LA got pissy and then..and then... blah blah.
Yeah, I remember reading some things about Lindsey and LaVar getting personal during some arguments duing games last season.
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Old 10-05-2006, 10:40 AM   #30
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you think they hate each other? watch dale lindsesy's video on redskins.com, or read his comments on lavar right after his release. I think hate might be an understatement.
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