Warpath  

Home | Forums | Salary Cap Info | Shop | Donate | Stay Connected




Go Back   Warpath > Redskins Forums > Redskins Locker Room


Does Campbell end the 'Cover 2' excuse?

Redskins Locker Room


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-14-2006, 06:27 PM   #61
Franchise Player
 
skinsfan69's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Arlington, VA.
Posts: 9,425
Re: Does Campbell end the 'Cover 2' excuse?

Quote:
Originally Posted by RobH4413 View Post
While this is true.... a 15-25 yd dig is one of the longest plays to develop. Curls work, and we do tend to use them as well, but with the corners easing back in the flats, it gets dangerous when you've got a noodle arm at QB. So therefore, CB's anticipate the flat pass, and jump the hell out of it. That's basically what our offense couldn't overcome.

The route that beats the cover 2, is the WR post & a TE skinny post. Both great plays for a QB who can place a ball well (and is tall enough to see the field). We'll see what happends. I'm excited.
Skinny post works very well against cover 2 and we saw some of that against Indy. There are many ways to attack the cover 2 in the 15-25 yard range. If the line can protect, (and that's a big if) it will be interesting to see if Campbell is willing sit in the pocket and wait for those down the field routes to develop. If you ask me, Brunell just didn't have the willingness the sit in there and wait for things to develop down the field. Plus Brunell needed perfect protection to get in down the field.
skinsfan69 is offline   Reply With Quote

Advertisements
Old 11-14-2006, 07:26 PM   #62
Living Legend
 
That Guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Springfield, VA
Age: 31
Posts: 16,259
Re: Does Campbell end the 'Cover 2' excuse?

gibbs won't need the cover-2 excuse, cause campbell can throw deep all day... he might need an interception excuse, but hopefully we score more than tampa so he won't have to anything besides "we got great QB play."

I'd guess it'll be a bit rough against tampa on the road, but there's always a chance it just works out.
__________________
Who says shameless self promotion is stupid? oh yeah, that was me... Click For Tunes!
That Guy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2006, 08:28 PM   #63
MVP
 
dmek25's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: lancaster,pa
Age: 52
Posts: 10,515
Re: Does Campbell end the 'Cover 2' excuse?

why do you guys have to go and get hessy all fired up? and hessy, i dont understand why you dont want campbell to have sucess right now, as opposed to next season?
__________________
"It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt."
courtesy of 53fan
dmek25 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2006, 08:53 PM   #64
Uncle Phil
 
SmootSmack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 44,627
Re: Does Campbell end the 'Cover 2' excuse?

Quote:
Originally Posted by hesscl34 View Post
... It's time for doom and gloom folks. All down hill from here - UNTIL NEXT YEAR!
You're trying to be sarcastic aren't you?
__________________
You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You
SmootSmack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2006, 09:23 PM   #65
Uncle Phil
 
SmootSmack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 44,627
Re: Does Campbell end the 'Cover 2' excuse?

Quote:
Originally Posted by hesscl34 View Post
The end is near.... I think I'll go kick an poor elderly guy while he's down. Maybe that will make me feel better....
It helps if he happens to be walking his big-eyed puppy
__________________
You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You
SmootSmack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2006, 08:55 AM   #66
Quietly Dominating the East
 
Hog1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Naples, Florida
Posts: 9,008
Re: Does Campbell end the 'Cover 2' excuse?

If you have not already read it, read the JC article posted by Matty "From idle to idol". It will get you stoked up to see him play!
__________________
Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios
thankyou Joe.......
ďItís all the political correct idiots in America, thatís all it is. Itís got nothing to do with anything else.
-Mike Ditka
Hog1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2006, 10:07 AM   #67
Registered User
 
redskinsfanatic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 542
Re: Does Campbell end the 'Cover 2' excuse?

campbell brings an elememnt to the redskins too that brunnell was
probably one of the best in history at,and tha's scrambling.how
many plays have you guys seen this year that brunnell of old could scramble 10-15 yards,and get a first down out of?campbell can do that,he's big,smart,very athelitic,and has a great arm.
ading a qb that can run and scramble will bring an element to the redskins qb issues that they have hardly ever had.
redskinsfanatic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2006, 10:12 AM   #68
I like big (_|_)s.
 
TheMalcolmConnection's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Lexington, Virginia
Age: 32
Posts: 17,479
Re: Does Campbell end the 'Cover 2' excuse?

Quote:
Originally Posted by RobH4413 View Post

Sunday is so far away!!!!
That's the first pic I've ever seen of him with SOME emotion!
__________________
Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.
TheMalcolmConnection is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2006, 10:19 AM   #69
Living Legend
 
GTripp0012's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Evanston, IL
Age: 26
Posts: 15,994
Re: Does Campbell end the 'Cover 2' excuse?

Quote:
Originally Posted by illdefined View Post
all the receivers are REALLY going to try and get separation now, because they know Campbell has the arm to really get it to them. even out of the pocket. the whole character of this team has changed. watch and see.
*saves post*

Unfortunately the defense STILL sucks, and the offensive line STILL holds. You have to love Randle El's versatility, but as a wideout he is worse than average. Lloyd has been even worse than him so far, although he's starting to make some big catches in 1 v 1 coverage (what he's paid to do).

Not saying they won't pick it up, just don't see any reason why they will.

But I appreaciate your conspiracy theroy that they weren't really trying for MB.
__________________
according to a source with knowledge of the situation.
GTripp0012 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2006, 10:30 AM   #70
‎\m/
 
Mattyk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 41
Posts: 81,144
Re: Does Campbell end the 'Cover 2' excuse?

The change in QB just might energize some guys and Thomas has already alluded to the fact that they know they have to step up in order to help Campbell out.
__________________
Support The Warpath! | Warpath Shop
Mattyk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2006, 10:32 AM   #71
Living Legend
 
GTripp0012's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Evanston, IL
Age: 26
Posts: 15,994
Re: Does Campbell end the 'Cover 2' excuse?

From a purely X's and O's standpoint...

Seeing as that a cover 2 requires that the safeties get deep, the two MOST effective ways to beat it are short passes and running the football. Throwing deep is a terrible method to beat the cover 2 since there are so many versions of it (soft or quarters, hard 2, bastardized 2 (usually a zone blitz)), espicially for a young QB playing against a D as good as Tampa's on the road, it can be really difficult for any QB to read the different varitions. In the hard two (what Dallas was playing a majority of the time two weeks ago), you can beat it down the middle, but in pretty much every other version of cover 2, the safeties will pinch, and force you to hit them in the 'hole' between the corners and safeties. It's a tough throw for anyone to make, and one that Campbell may or may not have the accuracy to throw.

This year, we've been throwing short to beat the 2, and we've been picking up first downs against it. Our drives seem to stall in enemy territory, keeping our PPG lower than it should be, and I have no idea why this happens. Luck maybe? Sh*tty playcalling? At this point, since CP is going on IR, and our QB is green as grass, it's moot point because I don't think we will be in opponents territory very often.
__________________
according to a source with knowledge of the situation.
GTripp0012 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2006, 10:37 AM   #72
Living Legend
 
GTripp0012's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Evanston, IL
Age: 26
Posts: 15,994
Re: Does Campbell end the 'Cover 2' excuse?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattyk72 View Post
The change in QB just might energize some guys and Thomas has already alluded to the fact that they know they have to step up in order to help Campbell out.
Don't you think Gruden will have Tampa energized to play at home against JC this week? The complexity of the game changes a bit when things get high-emotion, but utimately if we get beaten in the trenches, there's no way we get into double digits this week.

I really hope that Tampa doesn't show up, but that team is hungry for a win and with CP on IR for a 4 week injury, its obvious to me that we are playing for next year.
__________________
according to a source with knowledge of the situation.
GTripp0012 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2006, 10:38 AM   #73
Living Legend
 
GTripp0012's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Evanston, IL
Age: 26
Posts: 15,994
Re: Does Campbell end the 'Cover 2' excuse?

Quote:
Originally Posted by hesscl34 View Post
I had a nightmare last night that I woke up to the radio saying "There's sad news from Redskins park this morning... Joe Gibbs has stepped down."... UGH! I was so glad when I became fully awake a realized it was a dream!

This season has been one problem after another, after another. I feel like Porits and Moss cannot WAIT for it to end. Which makes me sad for the team.... What a mess we are all in.
Good news is we get the 4th place schedule...Arizona and Tampa next year.
__________________
according to a source with knowledge of the situation.
GTripp0012 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2006, 10:40 AM   #74
Registered User
 
redskinsfanatic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 542
Re: Does Campbell end the 'Cover 2' excuse?

the redskins really have'nt thrown downfield at all this year!
maybe that will change because of campbell.i'm sick of seeing these little swing passes to betts and cooley.they only way you can make plays better is by throwing the ball down field,not on screen passes every other play!
redskinsfanatic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2006, 10:43 AM   #75
Registered User
 
redskinsfanatic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 542
Re: Does Campbell end the 'Cover 2' excuse?

Good news is we get the 4th place schedule...Arizona and Tampa next year.


the 49ers too!are the skins on schedule to play the afc east next year,or the ravens divison?
redskinsfanatic is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:42 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site is not officially affiliated with the Washington Redskins or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.43285 seconds with 9 queries

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25