Does Campbell end the 'Cover 2' excuse?

Paintrain · 11-14-2006, 12:56 PM

For weeks we've been hearing MB and Gibbs repeatedly say they can't go deep because opposing defenses have played cover 2 or a 2 deep safety shell so the dump offs were 'taking what was available'. Everyone knows the way to beat a cover 2 is throwing to the deep middle or corner routes, 2 routes Brunell didn't have the arm strength or confidence to throw. With JC taking the reins should we see more of those throws against that coverage?

illdefined · 11-14-2006, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

For weeks we've been hearing MB and Gibbs repeatedly say they can't go deep because opposing defenses have played cover 2 or a 2 deep safety shell so the dump offs were 'taking what was available'. Everyone knows the way to beat a cover 2 is throwing to the deep middle or corner routes, 2 routes Brunell didn't have the arm strength or confidence to throw. With JC taking the reins should we see more of those throws against that coverage?

THAT, sir...is the plan.

can you tell i'm happy?

i'm sure Moss, Lloyd, ARE and Cooley are too. prolly not Betts tho.

Beemnseven · 11-14-2006, 01:04 PM

Yeah, it seems like the Redskins are the only team in the NFL who's offense is completely ineffective when the opponent is in a Cover 2.

hurrykaine · 11-14-2006, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by illdefined

THAT, sir...is the plan.

can you tell i'm happy?

i'm sure Moss, Lloyd, ARE and Cooley are too. prolly not Betts tho.

hahhahhahahahahahaha...yea, I'm sure Betts, Sellers, etc. are mighty pi$$ed at the demise of the dink and dunk offense.

JoeRedskin · 11-14-2006, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by hesscl34

Sure we'll see more throws against coverage, and we'll see a lot more interceptions too.

What happened to "Go Skins!!" and the positive spin?

EternalEnigma21 · 11-14-2006, 01:23 PM

it looks like hess is more of a brunell fan than a skins fan...

freddyg12 · 11-14-2006, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by hesscl34

Because REALITY is that now that MB is benched we have NO shot at the playoffs. This is all going to be about getting JC ready for next year, and I understand that. But it still blows for this year.

I hate to sound blindly optimistic, but look at the nfc, the division schedule & we have a chance. granted, it will take winning 6 of 7 at least, but its still a chance. the D has started to gell, since that stallworth td, & just maybe JC is good enough to get the O to score 17 - 20 a game. Other teams are flailing too in the nfc. We're only 3 games out of 1st & 2 back from the cowpokes, who also happen to be 1-3 in the div.
What if we win 2 in a row, are 5-6 (sound familiar?) and the div. leader is 6-5? Is it still over?

freddyg12 · 11-14-2006, 01:28 PM

oh, and yes, the middle of the field is now an option. Look for ARE to get some quick catches over the middle, something we haven't seen from him all year cause MB couldn't get it to him.

TheMalcolmConnection · 11-14-2006, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by hesscl34

Because REALITY is that now that MB is benched we have NO shot at the playoffs. This is all going to be about getting JC ready for next year, and I understand that. But it still blows for this year.

Is it because Brunell is benched or because CAMPBELL is starting? Honestly, this is the PERFECT time to put in Campbell. On the road, against a traditionally tame stadium, against a struggling team, is as favorable an environment you could ask for. If he plays well and gets his NFL legs under him, he returns home for a three game homestand in which the Redskins (still mathematically alive) will prove to us if they're up for another miracle finish or not.

illdefined · 11-14-2006, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by hesscl34

MB didnt' throw it to him because he was in coverage. JC will throw it, and we'll see more interceptions during the next 6 weeks than we have all year. He'll learn from that experience, I'm sure.

talk about hot & cold.

VTSkins897 · 11-14-2006, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by freddyg12

I hate to sound blindly optimistic, but look at the nfc, the division schedule & we have a chance. granted, it will take winning 6 of 7 at least, but its still a chance. the D has started to gell, since that stallworth td, & just maybe JC is good enough to get the O to score 17 - 20 a game. Other teams are flailing too in the nfc. We're only 3 games out of 1st & 2 back from the cowpokes, who also happen to be 1-3 in the div.
What if we win 2 in a row, are 5-6 (sound familiar?) and the div. leader is 6-5? Is it still over?

im with you. id rather watch the games hopefully than just giving up. it's not like any of us are playing. i'll still enjoy every game.

Southpaw · 11-14-2006, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by hesscl34

MB didnt' throw it to him because he was in coverage. JC will throw it, and we'll see more interceptions during the next 6 weeks than we have all year. He'll learn from that experience, I'm sure.

We'll probably see more picks, but we'll also see more touchdowns. Quarterback is a position that you can't afford to "play safe" when your defense can't stop anybody.

And if you really think that Brunell was the only chance at the playoffs, then that chance was absolute zero. Do you honestly believe Campbell couldn't have led the offense to THREE points last week?

Southpaw · 11-14-2006, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by hesscl34

Playoffs, Superbowl... gone...

Anyone that has been watching this team without the homer glasses knew that the chances for a Superbowl were gone six weeks ago.

MonkFan4Life · 11-14-2006, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by hesscl34

Traditinoally tame stadium??? Have you ever been there? Dude, it is NOT tame. That place is serious!

I heard the same thing hess, my cousin is a diehard Tampa fan. I was happy for him when they won the Super Bowl because they had sucked for so long, how did he become a Tampa fan ? Anyway, he and some other guys we know who are Skins fans went to the playoff game and they said it was loud as hell in there. My co-worker sat in the section where the pirate ship is is wild too! HA PIRATE SHIP !!!!! Anyway, I think Campbell will have a good game howver I am ready for him to stink up the joint. Joint......that's a good idea ! LATER !

memphisskin · 11-14-2006, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by hesscl34

MB didnt' throw it to him because he was in coverage. JC will throw it, and we'll see more interceptions during the next 6 weeks than we have all year. He'll learn from that experience, I'm sure.

Brunell didn't throw it because he couldn't see over the middle of the field. Why do u think he led the league in completions outside the numbers last year? It's always something, either its the pass protection, lack of a consistent running game, or the receivers not getting open. It's the NFL, receivers only run wide open on us, otherwise you have to get the ball into a window.

And we'll see more touchdown passes during the next 6 weeks than we have all year as well. And 3rd down conversions.

The Cover 2 is another excuse, the Skins play a lot of cover 2 and most of the big plays against us have been when we were in that coverage. If we get some big plays, the myth is busted.

11-14-2006, 12:56 PM	#1
Paintrain Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 42 Posts: 4,528	Does Campbell end the 'Cover 2' excuse? For weeks we've been hearing MB and Gibbs repeatedly say they can't go deep because opposing defenses have played cover 2 or a 2 deep safety shell so the dump offs were 'taking what was available'. Everyone knows the way to beat a cover 2 is throwing to the deep middle or corner routes, 2 routes Brunell didn't have the arm strength or confidence to throw. With JC taking the reins should we see more of those throws against that coverage? __________________ No Pressure-No Diamonds! Go Catch Your Dreams!

11-14-2006, 01:04 PM	#3
Beemnseven Fighting off The Crazies Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 39 Posts: 5,280	Re: Does Campbell end the 'Cover 2' excuse? Yeah, it seems like the Redskins are the only team in the NFL who's offense is completely ineffective when the opponent is in a Cover 2.

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EternalEnigma21 Assistant Regional Mod Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Warrenton VA Age: 33 Posts: 2,953	Re: Does Campbell end the 'Cover 2' excuse? it looks like hess is more of a brunell fan than a skins fan... __________________ Need electrical work in the Northern VA, or Shenandoah Valley? Click here ...and why do we still have a Tom Tupa avatar???

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freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	Re: Does Campbell end the 'Cover 2' excuse? oh, and yes, the middle of the field is now an option. Look for ARE to get some quick catches over the middle, something we haven't seen from him all year cause MB couldn't get it to him.

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