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Old 06-21-2004, 01:37 PM   #16
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The draft was only fun this year because it was the 5th overall pick, and for you Canes it was especially fun because we were deciding between Taylor and Winslow. But, like others have said, I'd rather have fun in the regular season and pick near the end of the first round, if not the very end
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Old 06-21-2004, 01:37 PM   #17
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I don't see anything fun about the draft next year. First of all the Redskins won't pick until the 32nd pick. Plus, adding a guy like Ogunleye we really won't need to draft anyone that high. We would basically draft for depth.


I think we can give up a 1st rounder and give them Wynn.
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Old 06-21-2004, 01:39 PM   #18
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Wynn AND Brunell for Ogunleye
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Old 06-21-2004, 01:43 PM   #19
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If we keep getting players we dont draft it will be hard to have depth because we will have so many huge contracts. Rookies dont get huge contracts. Id like us to get him but the fact we havent had many young talents in recent years that we are drafting is going to hurt us. Gardner is almost due for a new contract. Smoot is due after this season. Ramsey has two years left on his rookie contract. We arent going to be able to keep those players and have depth if we have a lot of big name players. Players arent gong to want to redo their contracts every three years.
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Wynn AND Brunell for Ogunleye

haha, it if wasnt for the what, eight million dollar cap hit wed get for releasing brunell.
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Gardner is almost due for a new contract. Smoot is due after this season. Ramsey has two years left on his rookie contract. We arent going to be able to keep those players and have depth if we have a lot of big name players. Players arent gong to want to redo their contracts every three years.
Gardner? and.
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Old 06-21-2004, 01:51 PM   #22
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what are you asking me?
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If we keep getting players we dont draft it will be hard to have depth because we will have so many huge contracts. Rookies dont get huge contracts. Id like us to get him but the fact we havent had many young talents in recent years that we are drafting is going to hurt us. Gardner is almost due for a new contract. Smoot is due after this season. Ramsey has two years left on his rookie contract. We arent going to be able to keep those players and have depth if we have a lot of big name players. Players arent gong to want to redo their contracts every three years.
Good call about rookie contracts, but: do we want to give Gardner another contract? What about Smoot for that matter? I'd like to see how Smoot does this year with no Champ and more safety support; I love the guy, but if he's looking to hold out for big money, he has yet to really prove himself. Ogunleye is solid addition to the defensive front, but nobody wants to mortgage the future on him, whether it is with draft picks or with big cap numbers.
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either way, if we get rid of Gardner and Smoot then whats, we go out and pay big money for two other players? If Gardner leaves , then whoever takes his place on our team will want a big contract to.
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haha, it if wasnt for the what, eight million dollar cap hit wed get for releasing brunell.
really?? damn.
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well whatever we gave him for our signing bonus would all be a hit against the cap next year, minus the part for this year.
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either way, if we get rid of Gardner and Smoot then whats, we go out and pay big money for two other players? If Gardner leaves , then whoever takes his place on our team will want a big contract to.
yeah Smoot really needs to show his worth, and whoever replaced Gardner would have to REALLY prove themself. no WR on our team besides Coles can ask for any kind of big check. we'd just put eager Chad Morton out there!
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Old 06-21-2004, 02:13 PM   #28
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really, a DE is an absolute NECESSITY for the Skins. has been for years and years now, its getting ridiculous. this is too good of an opportunity. young, hungry and proven but NOT an egomaniac househould name?? how often does that come along? last time it did, we got Coles! worth every penny.

and he's a top notch guy apparently. Literature major. reads alot. wears a regular watch. very down to earth. friend of mine dated him.
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yeah Smoot really needs to show his worth, and whoever replaced Gardner would have to REALLY prove themself. no WR on our team besides Coles can ask for any kind of big check. we'd just put eager Chad Morton out there!
Whoever replaced Gardner would likely be signed already. McCants, Thrash, and Jacobs have all either performed at this level, or shown flashes of the ability to do so. Believe me, the pressure is on Rod to prove he can play in this league, much less on this team.

If Ogunleye is traded to the Redskins, I'd guarantee that Gardner is part of the package. I wouldn't mind seeing Wynn leave as well (solely because of his salary), but I doubt Miami would absorb his existing deal.
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they wouldnt have to absord that much, we would take the hit if wynn had a signing bonus, which would lower his salary structure for them. Either way he could redo it with them if he was included.

Gardner would have been a consideratoin for them had them not singed David Boston. I cant imagine them wanting to give up a probowlers for a third strign receiver. Chambers will play second string, so he would have ot battle with D.Thompson for 3rd string.
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