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Old 11-16-2006, 11:08 AM   #16
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Re: 10 Guys Who Have Worn Out Their Welcome (from cnnsi.com)

Given what happened last year, regardless of if his name is Gibbs or not I wouldn't want him fired at the end of this year. If next year is another disaster then I would have some serious issues.
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Old 11-16-2006, 11:30 AM   #17
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If SI thinks Gibbs has "worn out his welcome," they are just plain dumb. While the treads might be a little worn, I don't see a coup led by fans or players to overthrow Gibbs.

They should be citing Parcells as there seem to be a LOT of Dallas fans who question his playcalling and W-L production. I know a few Cowboys fans and virtually all of them say they would have liked to have seen Sean Payton become their HC.
yeah, and tuna's record since comin back is only slightlt better than Gibbs.'
This article is kinda placing blame on the organization more than Gibbs, but as noted on this thread, he's already a front office guy.
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Old 11-16-2006, 11:34 AM   #18
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I hope gibbs comes back next year and calls the offensive plays, with campbell, I think simplicity might be better. Expecially if campbell shows the physical abilities that we are all expecting, then we could let campbell make the big plays on his own, instead of making him adjust to timing routs.
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Let Saunders get his system in place. We were told time after time this offseason by Saunders and Todd Collins that it would take serious time to get this offense in place and moving correctly. Give him an offseason to work with Campbell, and hopefully Gibbs will hand the reins over to him a bit more for personel, not letting Portis bench himself, etc.
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Old 11-16-2006, 12:07 PM   #20
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Do you think that he was the one who picked our defensive busts? Aside from Brunell, he's been on with offensive additions.
What I would say is this, the buck stops with him, but not to totally throw him under the bus, I know from a lot of his statements that Gibbs does listen to his coaches as well as players on personel decisions, now here's the problem, he has to be able to disern whether or not that particular person know's what he's talking about when it comes to talent evaluation. At this point I think we really need to rethink our strategy and utilize the draft big time, but hiring a GM just for the sake of it wont work, we need a tremendous GM [as any team does] which are hard to come by, and I don't see that type of evaluater in our organization, so the question is, WHO?

Offensive additions? Yes and no, as you well know I was not and still not a believer in the Portis trade, way to much for a player that we could have gotten the same production or more out of another back, especially a back like Stephen Jackson. I loved the Cooley pick but once again we had to overpay because we had to trade up for lack of picks. He brought in Rabach who is nothing special there was better in the draft. I do like our WR's though unfortunatly thier only as good as the guy throwing them the ball. Which brings me to Campbell, no matter how you slice it we overpaid, I am glad to see him finally get a shot that is greatly overdue, and he really seems like a tremendous kid, he defiently has the demenour that a QB needs to stay focused, but is he really an NFL QB, and when I say that I mean can he win a SB not just have some success? Well it's nice to see we are about to get our first glimpse of what's to come, good or bad at least we will have an idea where we finally stand at QB. If Gibbs goes into the front office he needs to find a legitamate talent evaluater!
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its funny that the same article can attack the skins for FA overspending, begging the question of having more continuity on the team, and then it attacks Joe Gibbs and suggests he should resign

the media is overwhelmingly hypocritical, constantly suggesting things need to change whether its players or coaches or the front office and then criticizing the skins for making too many changes. They talk about how many qb changes and coaching changes the skins have made since 91 and they criticize gibbs for not replacing brunnel sooner and say he needs to step down as coach.

Joe Gibbs stepping down at anytime in the immediate future would not be good for the team. Its time to stick out and not look for a quick fix.
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good post offiss. do you think we should stick with saunders since we have campbell at QB?
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SI is a joke, just random sports writers trying to get a rise out of people.
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good post offiss. do you think we should stick with saunders since we have campbell at QB?
Well who else could we go with? At this point we are committed to Campbell and rightly so. My feeling is we have yet to see Saunders offense, Brunell took the play book and simplified it to the usual throw it to the first guy you see, if he's covered throw it away, Campbell WILL stand in the pocket and try to hit recievers downfield, how well and how long it takes him to master the offense depend's, remember he not only has to get used to the offense, but the speed and tendencies of his recievers, remember we heard during the by week that it was the first time since he was drafted that he worked with the first team, he has a lot on his plate this week against a D as smart and as good as Tampa's.
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Well who else could we go with? At this point we are committed to Campbell and rightly so. My feeling is we have yet to see Saunders offense, Brunell took the play book and simplified it to the usual throw it to the first guy you see, if he's covered throw it away, Campbell WILL stand in the pocket and try to hit recievers downfield, how well and how long it takes him to master the offense depend's, remember he not only has to get used to the offense, but the speed and tendencies of his recievers, remember we heard during the by week that it was the first time since he was drafted that he worked with the first team, he has a lot on his plate this week against a D as smart and as good as Tampa's.
Wow, offiss! That is as accurate a post as I've ever read from anyone concerning Brunell, Saunders and Campbell.
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the fact that TO was not on the list immediately discredits it.
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TO is catching TDs now (except vs us)
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are you gonna argue that TO contributes more to sports or a team than Simeon Rice?

TO is cancer. He'll get back on his old horse soon enough... trust me its going to turn cold for dallas on the road and we'll see it again...

He's worse than Randy Moss. Moss is a punk, but he gets in trouble for being honest moreso than calling out his teammates and coaches...

I know I heard the interview about Mike Tice, but he was right. period.
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someone in our FO needs to go. the bad (and expensive) personnel decisions and throwing away draft picks has got to stop :/.
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Gibbs built this franchise, and now he's not welcome?????? That's like saying lumbardi wouldnt be welcome in Green Bay. Media is so moment to moment, hilarious.
I think in Lumbardi's current condition (dead) he wouldn't be welcome in Green Bay or DC.
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