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Old 11-16-2006, 09:33 PM   #31
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Old 11-16-2006, 09:34 PM   #32
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Old 11-16-2006, 10:26 PM   #33
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If you can erase in your mind what Gibbs has done previously for us, and forget he's a 3 time SB champ, then how would you judge and rate him as a coach? I doubt there's one person here who would not be calling for his head on a silver platter!

As far as Gibbs moving into the front office? That scares me considering it seems personel decisions at least when it comes to players is scary.
I totally disagree. Let's say a nameless coach takes over a team in shambles, left bare by the previous nimrod. In addition this franchise has been down for as decade. A new guy comes in, acquires a bunch of new players and takes this loser team deep into the playoffs in just the second season. Everyone thinks what a great job he has done right?

Year three comes, and a few parts of the team unexpectedly fail, star RB gets a fluke injury and is never right, QB has trouble in a new system, and defense unexpectedly struggles. Team takes a step back.

You are saying in any other city this coach would be fired after one off year? No way. This is what Snyder would have done in the early years, but franchises that operate that knee jerk are usually perpetual losers.
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Old 11-16-2006, 10:29 PM   #34
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I totally disagree. Let's say a nameless coach takes over a team in shambles, left bare by the previous nimrod. In addition this franchise has been down for as decade. A new guy comes in, acquires a bunch of new players and takes this loser team deep into the playoffs in just the second season. Everyone thinks what a great job he has done right?

Year three comes, and a few parts of the team unexpectedly fail, star RB gets a fluke injury and is never right, QB has trouble in a new system, and defense unexpectedly struggles. Team takes a step back.

You are saying in any other city this coach would be fired after one off year? No way. This is what Snyder would have done in the early years, but franchises that operate that knee jerk are usually perpetual losers.

exactly, the team is still better with gibbs then with spurrier or norvey
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Old 11-17-2006, 05:32 AM   #35
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schotty went 8-8 and got fired, and he didn't need to overspend like crazy for some good players and a bunch of bad ones too.
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that list is stupid.
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Old 11-17-2006, 08:23 AM   #37
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schotty went 8-8 and got fired, and he didn't need to overspend like crazy for some good players and a bunch of bad ones too.
Schottenhiemer sucks... he sucked when he was here he sucks in San Deigeo... he is intensly diliked by players and fans it is just his brand of football somehow wins a bunch of non important games possibly because he gets to play the likes of the Raiders and the Chiefs twice a year.

Can you name one player who was broaght on the team by Marty who a) is still here or b) Didn't suck much worse than the players he let go...

He ran Deon, Ray Rhodes, Monte Coleman, Kenard Lang, Tre Johnson, Mark Carrier, Larry Centres out of town and brought in Kevin Locket, Rod Gardner, McCants, Tony Banks drafted Smoot who had 1 good year here and his diamond in the rough was Antonio Peirce who he never played.

I think Wynn is the only guy who survived he alienated the owner ... Marty was not god he just thought he was ... geeze get over it already
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Old 11-17-2006, 10:00 AM   #38
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I think Vince would roll over in his grave if he knew people were spelling his last name Lumbardi, and not Lombardi
Tafkas, thanks so much for the spelling lessons.....on someone's name. Very good point, thanks for your input.
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Old 11-17-2006, 10:04 AM   #39
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Firing Marty for Spurrier???????????? yeah great move. Marty ball was perfect for the personnel we had, however, I am aware of Stephen Davis' injury bug, which would have hurt....but still, to close out a season like that and get fired......WOW. I know it's an old outdated subject.
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Old 11-17-2006, 12:34 PM   #40
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Schottenhiemer sucks... he sucked when he was here he sucks in San Deigeo... he is intensly diliked by players and fans it is just his brand of football somehow wins a bunch of non important games possibly because he gets to play the likes of the Raiders and the Chiefs twice a year.

Didn't Gibbs lose to the Raiders and Chiefs last year?

Can you name one player who was broaght on the team by Marty who a) is still here or b) Didn't suck much worse than the players he let go...

Gardner, McCants, Smoot and Peirce played pretty well with the Skins

He ran Deon, Ray Rhodes, Monte Coleman, Kenard Lang, Tre Johnson, Mark Carrier, Larry Centres out of town

You are kidding? All but Centers were either Old or over rated.
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thats bullshit i dont feel like JG has worn out his welcome
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Schottenhiemer sucks... he sucked when he was here he sucks in San Deigeo... he is intensly diliked by players and fans it is just his brand of football somehow wins a bunch of non important games possibly because he gets to play the likes of the Raiders and the Chiefs twice a year.

Didn't Gibbs lose to the Raiders and Chiefs last year?

Can you name one player who was broaght on the team by Marty who a) is still here or b) Didn't suck much worse than the players he let go...

Gardner, McCants, Smoot and Peirce played pretty well with the Skins

He ran Deon, Ray Rhodes, Monte Coleman, Kenard Lang, Tre Johnson, Mark Carrier, Larry Centres out of town

You are kidding? All but Centers were either Old or over rated.
Hmmm, did Marty draft Samuels and bring in Jansen? Did Shotty not keep on his roster: Wynn, Wilkinson, Trotter, Smoot, B.Smith, Pierce, Ohalete, L. Marshall, Cartwright, Betts, Bailey, Armstead....to name a few. Check our roster and you'll see how many names are still here or are doing good things elsewhere. Yeah lots of those guys are gone, but Shotty coaches a better NFL game than "the ol' ball coach" on any give day.
The problem back then was Danny. Danny has now realized that and given the greatest Redskin alive the chance to give us glory again. Hail Joe Gibbs and shame on anyone who questions his heart. I'll bet anybody he works harder toward pleasing you on sundays than you do in your m-f job.

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Old 11-18-2006, 07:44 AM   #43
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i really believe if Marty were allowed to do the things he wanted to here, we would have been a consistent play off team. his track record speaks for itself. now I'm not saying we would have won the super bowl, but the redskins would have been consistently better. and i have read more than once, that he is a players coach, and the players who play for him, love him. most ex players are player coaches
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That is the most retarded less I've ever seen. Joe Gibbs does NOT belong on that list. I've been somewhat chemical of Gibbs, but there is absolutely no reason as to why he should be on this list. I don't agree with Denny Green or Flozell Adams either. I think Green is close, but Adams is a great offensive linemen.

Anyway, as I was saying, Joe shouldn't be on the list. I can see why some people are saying this, he hasn't been a savior YET. Does that mean he won't be? No. He could be, but I know Joe has earned the right to coach this team through the length of his contract.

Also, since he wants to throw Joe out there, where was Big Ben?! OOOOOHHHHH!
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Old 11-18-2006, 11:54 AM   #45
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if you think marty sucks, look at his record since he left and look at ours. he picked up tony banks off the waiver wire and won a ton of games with him. tony f'ing banks, and rod gardner may have sucked, but he got him to play reasonably well while he was here. i have no idea what you're talking about.
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