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Old 11-21-2006, 11:57 AM   #16
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the real question is would replacing brunell have 'fixed' Gibbs' offense? The O played well until MB got hurt against the NYG. Even Ramsey came in & threw some td's. That inconsistency we saw at the end of last year had a lot to do w/brunell's knees. Teams were stackin the box w/no fear of our passing game.
I think putting in Ramsey would give us a better chance, but I would have still predicted the same exact result.

I dont feel all of that was because of Brunell's injury, it was because of a very simple offense that the defenses picked up rather easily.
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Old 11-21-2006, 11:58 AM   #17
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The offense isn't even the main issue right now. Fix the D and most of our problems would be solved. I don't know why some people are so intent on focusing on the offense. It's too late for any wholesale changes to the systems at this point in the year anyway.
If the O doesn't control Time of Poss. The defense get wore down by the fourth quarter. That is the key to GIBBS FOOTBALL
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If the O doesn't control Time of Poss. The defense get wore down by the fourth quarter. That is the key to GIBBS FOOTBALL
Al does have a bit adjusting to do, and I am sure he is aware of it. He has gotten away from the run, and I expect more run from him next game.

Regardless, pulling him is NOT the solution. You yourself have clearly stated changing offense alot is bad. Ok we changed to Al, he is proven, so lets keep it.

Gibbs v2.0 got two full years, and it was inconsistent. Now give Al two years, dont be hypocritical.
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I think putting in Ramsey would give us a better chance, but I would have still predicted the same exact result.

I dont feel all of that was because of Brunell's injury, it was because of a very simple offense that the defenses picked up rather easily.
Keep it simple so the offensive players understand it. It does not matter how complex the playbbook is if the QB does not understand. But your right about Ramsey
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Al does have a bit adjusting to do, and I am sure he is aware of it. He has gotten away from the run, and I expect more run from him next game.

Regardless, pulling him is NOT the solution. You yourself have clearly stated changing offense alot is bad. Ok we changed to Al, he is proven, so lets keep it.

Gibbs v2.0 got two full years, and it was inconsistent. Now give Al two years, dont be hypocritical.

GIBBS is the head coach and Al is not. Look at the Ravens situation
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Old 11-21-2006, 12:04 PM   #21
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I know alot of the Redskins fan base thinks like this, but I seriously hope that the front office and Gibbs are not thinking like this.

Everyone knows consistancy is important to winning, and the Skins should know this, seeing that we suck more than Red Light District hooker with all of our changes in the past decade.

I will be beyond frustrated if Al is cut.
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GIBBS is the head coach and Al is not. Look at the Ravens situation
Al is doing what Gibbs mainly did last year, he is running the offense. Gibbs ran the offense last year.

We are not talking about personel moves, etc, we are only talking about playcalling.
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Old 11-21-2006, 12:09 PM   #23
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And yeah if you look at Baltimore, they have an amazing defense that creates turnovers, and their offense is not doing much better with Fassel being cut(it was him right?). I think he was a scapegoat for the problems they have in Baltimore.

I contest that if we had a D like Baltimore and the current Al Saunders offense, we would be a front runner for the playoffs.
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Al is doing what Gibbs mainly did last year, he is running the offense. Gibbs ran the offense last year.

We are not talking about personel moves, etc, we are only talking about playcalling.
No run plays. Is Al's O the new RUN and Shoot. If they run that pitch on more time I gonna die
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I think putting in Ramsey would give us a better chance, but I would have still predicted the same exact result.

I dont feel all of that was because of Brunell's injury, it was because of a very simple offense that the defenses picked up rather easily.
but you can't deny MB's production was at least avg. all year until the last 3 games (including playoffs). It's hard to judge Gibbs' offense in those 3 games cause Brunell couldn't operate 100%.
I'll agree w/you that the O still needed tweaking, but it worked to some extent.
I was excited when we hired Saunders & its too early to judge the move, our O might be unstopable next year & after, but if it is less than explosive then I think many will look back & say that Gibbs could've achieved the same w/out complicating things by bringing in a new coordinator.
I think we'll be alright w/JC & a yr. of this new O under our belt. Hope so anyway!
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No run plays. Is Al's O the new RUN and Shoot. If they run that pitch on more time I gonna died
Our Oline isnt fit for that stuff like the Oline in KC was, and I think Al realizes that.

Expect more runs up the gut next week.
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but you can't deny MB's production was at least avg. all year until the last 3 games (including playoffs). It's hard to judge Gibbs' offense in those 3 games cause Brunell couldn't operate 100%.
I'll agree w/you that the O still needed tweaking, but it worked to some extent.
I was excited when we hired Saunders & its too early to judge the move, our O might be unstopable next year & after, but if it is less than explosive then I think many will look back & say that Gibbs could've achieved the same w/out complicating things by bringing in a new coordinator.
I think we'll be alright w/JC & a yr. of this new O under our belt. Hope so anyway!
I agree with your assessment of Saunders, like I have been saying give him atleast one more year with Campbell.

That still may not be enough to win if our D doesnt make some drastic improvements next year.
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Yeah MBs peformance was average, but statistics are misleading, like they are this year. MB has stellar numbers this year, but we all know the way he plays is not cut for winning games.

Last year his numbers come around average because of those games before the playoffs, and maybe one or two before that in the regular season.

You guys are forgetting, he had some pretty shitty games.
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Last year Gibbs had the skins on track. Listening to the media talk about his offense he made a change. MISTAKE Drop the new playbook in the trash and dust his off. Call 100% of the play from his play book. RUN RUN RUN RUN RUN you've got Betts, Duckett, and Rock give them the ball please. Why are we run on 1st down and throwing on 2nd and 3rd. If its not broken don't fix it. GIBBS is a HOF coach he needs to do what he knows works 3 RINGS
Has Gibbs some how lost control?

3 rings from the 80's and 90's means nothing today.

The "O" was broken last year and is broke this year.

Look at this year depth chart and compare offense to defense ("O" with 5 running backs, 5 wide outs and 3 tight ends) This all smells of Joe Gibbs.
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Old 11-21-2006, 12:42 PM   #30
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Hypothetical: If Gibbs leaves and another coach comes in and fails and Gibbs says he will come back for a 3rd try would the redskins faithful be excited?

I dont think so.
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